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BHNtechXpert
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reply to compn

Re: If you could add a product, feature or make a change...

said by compn:

when we see one open letter from the ceo of bright house to (insert any channel/content provider here) then we'll stop buggin you about it. deal?

i think i'm hitting a brick wall here. all of the ideas i come up with are either old ideas, cost prohibitive, contracturally impossible, technologically unsound or just plain bad.

how about an index or search of all of the on demand programs available? its kind of annoying to navigate 40+ menus to find out whats on.

You aren't hitting a brick wall at all. I just want you to see the bigger picture...the purpose of this thread is to get ideas from you but also to put things into perspective from time to time as was your case. You seem highly focused on it being providers responsibility for these things and that just isn't the case. You folks are the driver of this bus and don't even know it or refuse to believe it....I can't say which because I still don't understand the resistance to the concept. I've handed you the solution on a silver platter but it will take organized cooperative effort on your part directed at the folks who really control these things. We can only do so much and continue to fight the good fight the best we can but in the end it is you that can make the difference....only problem is most think like you do and refuse to engage other than to place the blame squarely at the provider.

As for the guide question my answer is the same as it was in my first response to you. The guide is evolutionary in nature and with each revision we add or improve features based on feedback just like yours. Your request will be added to the several similar requests....
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compn

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ok, can i get you , yourself, unrelated to bright house, do me a favor and email one channel and ask them about removing the channel logo ? i'll do the same. just pick any channel you watch and send them a mail. except for tcm. because at least they hide it sometimes during the film.

btw, amc's website makes the claim that its advertisers, sponsors, viewers and cable affiliates who make the choice of censored films.

quote:
Does AMC edit movies for content?

Yes. Like most advertiser-supported networks, AMC edits programming for certain "objectionable" content, including nudity and offensive language. As a national network available on basic cable, AMC adheres to standards that will be acceptable to the majority of our viewers, our sponsors and our cable and satellite affiliates.
so to put the blame entirely on us viewers is a bit unfair. now if you say its brighthouse policy to support uncensored films in discussions with content providers, i will be happy.


BHNtechXpert
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No.. I won't because personally they don't bother me (you asked me personally). I don't watch enough tv to care about the logos to be honest with you. If I write something like that it will be because I have an issue with it and in this case I do not...sorry.

Your second part of the post clearly misses the point I have been telling you all along. AMC edits the content...not us. They can spin it and include any and all reasons why they want but ultimately it is they who edit the content. Your concern about the content is far better focused on the content owner regardlesss of source....in this case you have chosen AMC.
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AMejia1976

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reply to compn

"AMC adheres to standards that will be acceptable to the majority of our viewers, our sponsors and our cable and satellite affiliates"

This does not mean that the cable or satellite affiliates tell AMC or any other network how to cut/edit/limit the programing they provide. It simply means they do follow the rules of the land; AKA FCC/MPAA/ETC in order to keep uncle sam from punishing them should they show content that is generally distateful.
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BHNtechXpert
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said by AMejia1976:

"AMC adheres to standards that will be acceptable to the majority of our viewers, our sponsors and our cable and satellite affiliates"

This does not mean that the cable or satellite affiliates tell AMC or any other network how to cut/edit/limit the programing they provide. It simply means they do follow the rules of the land; AKA FCC/MPAA/ETC in order to keep uncle sam from punishing them should they show content that is generally distateful.

Exactly....
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compn

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BHNtechXpert, i thought you said you were a 'friend'. you wont do me one little favor? even if the logo does not bother you, you wont mind it missing then?

this is the reason i think the 'hello friend' thing is phony. calling someone a friend, when they wont even help out with a simple favor? feels phony to me.

the fcc doesnt rule movie content over cable. there appears to be laws against obscene material. but i havent seen hbo get in trouble , so i dont see how it applies.

the mpaa doesnt tell people how to edit content either. they only give it a rating based on the content. unless you have proof otherwise?

@AMejia1976: do you agree with my assessment?

i know brighthouse doesnt tell the content providers how to edit their films either. whats with all these strawman arguments you keep bringing up? its hard to have a serious discussion when you keep strawmanning.

my argument is that there are cable affiliates that DO tell content providers they want edited films. my question is, is bright house one of those affiliates? and if its not, can they actively try to out-vote the cable affiliates that do choose censored material?



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BHNtechXpert, i thought you said you were a 'friend'. you wont do me one little favor? even if the logo does not bother you, you wont mind it missing then?

this is the reason i think the 'hello friend' thing is phony. calling someone a friend, when they wont even help out with a simple favor? feels phony to me.


This is troubling Compn... no friend would ask another friend to lie for them. Sending such a letter would be a lie from the standpoint of me sending it because the logos don't bother me. I will do this much and send a note to programming on your behalf that you don't like them. Mind you thats our programming and they don't control station logos or graphics but I will nonetheless communicate your feelings.

the fcc doesnt rule movie content over cable. there appears to be laws against obscene material. but i havent seen hbo get in trouble , so i dont see how it applies.

Nor does Cinemax so that should tell you something...it is clearly in the control of the content holder not your provider because we have both HBO and Cinemax and they run quite the show latenight. (not that I would know personally ...but you guys tell me )

the mpaa doesnt tell people how to edit content either. they only give it a rating based on the content. unless you have proof otherwise?

What does the MPAA have to do with this?

@AMejia1976: do you agree with my assessment?

i know brighthouse doesnt tell the content providers how to edit their films either. whats with all these strawman arguments you keep bringing up? its hard to have a serious discussion when you keep strawmanning.

my argument is that there are cable affiliates that DO tell content providers they want edited films. my question is, is bright house one of those affiliates? and if its not, can they actively try to out-vote the cable affiliates that do choose censored material?
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compn

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i never asked you to lie. thanks for your responses.



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said by compn:

i never asked you to lie. thanks for your responses.

BHNtechXpert, i thought you said you were a 'friend'. you wont do me one little favor? even if the logo does not bother you, you wont mind it missing then?

Compn what would you call that request above? You asked me to write a letter to a content provider complaining about the logos and to remove them when you know they don't personally bother me (remember you asked me personally not professionally). Such a letter would be nothing less than deceptive because in reality they don't bother me and yet you want me to write to a content provider and say they do. How else can that be interpreted?

I am doing what you asked though as your BHN friend and passing your request on to our folks internally. It's difficult for me to do much with it as I don't have your account data but nonetheless it wil be done. What I have stressed this entire time however is that this concen really needs to be leveled at the content provider not your cable provider.

I want you happy...we want you happy but there are some things we can't fix as your provider and this is one of them.
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