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peteboston
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Wakefield, MA

peteboston

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Re: [Speed] Massachusetts - Persistent slow perf. to locations

Let's start at home before worrying about the rest of the internet (next). Can you ask the backbone engineering team to look at what is wrong on the RCN backbone between MA & IL first? While this is only impacting a portion of the sites on the internet, some are definitely going through your IL site and will obviously be impacted by this.

As I pasted above and can be easily reproduced to RCN's own speed test server, there is no way to get max speed to RCN IL from RCN MA, so this should be a good place to start troubleshooting since I believe there are numerous problems to resolve and this is one of many.

Outbound path:
tge0-0-0-0.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net (207.172.15.130) 13.726 ms 13.748 ms
4 tge0-0-0-1.core1.chgo.il.rcn.net (207.172.19.231) 44.668 ms tge0-0-0-1.core2.chgo.il.rcn.net (207.172.19.233) 44.829 ms tge0-0-0-1.core1.chgo.il.rcn.net (207.172.19.231) 44.720 ms
5 tge2-3.aggr1.chgo.il.rcn.net (207.172.15.213) 43.603 ms 44.680 ms 44.586 ms
6 il.speedtest.rcn.net (216.80.19.62) 44.663 ms 37.978 ms 35.791 ms

Last speedtest: 18.64Mb/s, 17.83Mb/s, 18.74Mb/s (this is actually better than the other day, but still far below what I get to MA)

RCN MA: 27.6Mb/s
RCN PA: 24.07Mb/s
peteboston

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Performance is good all day on VZ and bad all day and night on RCN outside of the few sites that have decent performance.

Here are the VZ Stats from the same exact computer to the same exact servers, I will send traceroutes in an hour or so.

[Updated on 8/16 to include RCN comparison on right]

FIOS 25/25---------------------- -- RCN 25/2
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
SEA 27.26Mb/s 111ms 19 hops -- RCN 6.22Mb/s 107ms 11 hops
SFO 27.77Mb/s 104ms 23 hops -- RCN 7.73Mb/s 88ms 10 hops
LAX 30.09Mb/s 100ms 16 hops -- RCN 7.31Mb/s 91ms 9 hops
DAL 30.98Mb/s 63ms 16 hops -- RCN 8.99Mb/s 60ms 11 hops
CHI 30.58Mb/s 64ms 11 hops -- RCN 14.92Mb/s 37ms 6 hops
ATL 30.13Mb/s 79ms 17 hops -- RCN 15.17Mb/s 34ms 9 hops
NYC 30.23Mb/s 63ms 13 hops -- RCN 25.46Mb/s 16ms 6 hops
WDC 30.87Mb/s 62ms 12 hops -- RCN 23.39Mb/s 21ms 9 hops
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peteboston

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Here are the VZ FIOS Traceroutes to the same sites

NY:
3 g0-14-1-4.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.59.166) 8.147 ms 15.290 ms 7.599 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (14 ae3-0.lsancagb-mxc1.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.97) 98.462 ms 99.563 ms 105.436 ms
15 ge-2-0-0-0.c00.law.bb.megapath.net (155.229.70.201) 160.088 ms 101.542 ms 101.196 ms
16 *) 6.852 ms 8.528 ms 6.864 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 27.173 ms 24.447 ms 20.054 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 17.759 ms 21.094 ms 18.621 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 60.084 ms 59.607 ms 60.040 ms
8 vlan52.ebr2.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.254) 62.092 ms 61.822 ms 62.533 ms
9 ae-4-4.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.141.17) 60.319 ms 59.726 ms 62.047 ms
10 ae-92-92.csw4.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.148.46) 62.837 ms 71.723 ms
ae-62-62.csw1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.148.34) 69.257 ms
11 ae-33-80.car3.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.133) 64.450 ms
ae-23-70.car3.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.69) 79.741 ms
ae-43-90.car3.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.197) 58.907 ms
12 unknown.level3.net (63.209.170.234) 56.613 ms 59.667 ms 56.715 ms
13 * * *

WDC:
3 g0-14-1-3.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.190.230) 7.244 ms 6.939 ms 7.617 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 6.925 ms 11.350 ms 12.729 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 58.466 ms 47.044 ms 32.408 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 17.060 ms 17.533 ms 18.098 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 59.377 ms 59.516 ms 102.252 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 59.417 ms 64.446 ms 59.991 ms
9 ae-3-3.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.132.89) 60.051 ms 59.448 ms 59.649 ms
10 ae-82-82.csw3.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.154) 62.113 ms
ae-72-72.csw2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.150) 67.100 ms 59.315 ms
11 ae-21-70.car1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.67) 67.785 ms
ae-31-80.car1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.131) 116.340 ms
ae-21-70.car1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.67) 99.125 ms
12 63.210.41.194 (63.210.41.194) 59.822 ms 61.562 ms 59.862 ms

ATL:
3 g0-14-1-4.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.59.166) 10.866 ms 8.124 ms 7.132 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 7.277 ms 7.424 ms 7.311 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 14.712 ms 17.176 ms 17.346 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 16.834 ms 16.772 ms 17.037 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 59.979 ms 77.578 ms 135.964 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 73.341 ms 62.389 ms 60.256 ms
9 ae-3-3.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.132.89) 62.748 ms 59.699 ms 64.702 ms
10 ae-72-72.csw2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.150) 60.052 ms 69.112 ms
ae-82-82.csw3.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.154) 65.671 ms
11 ae-22-70.car2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.68) 59.658 ms
ae-12-60.car2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.4) 61.599 ms
ae-42-90.car2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.196) 62.068 ms
12 ge1-1.bbsr1.iad.megapath.net (166.90.148.2) 59.436 ms 59.389 ms 59.591 ms
13 66.80.131.46 (66.80.131.46) 77.530 ms 79.088 ms 77.021 ms
14 ge-3-0-0-0.c01.ash.bb.megapath.net (155.229.123.245) 129.224 ms 111.861 ms 97.557 ms
15 ae8-0.asbnvacz-mxc2.bb.megapath.net (155.229.101.149) 66.643 ms 64.473 ms 92.414 ms
16 ae1-0.atlngamq-mxc2.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.154) 79.563 ms 79.483 ms 79.900 ms
17 ge-2-1-0-0.c00.atp.bb.megapath.net (155.229.101.194) 78.708 ms 77.185 ms 80.062 ms

CHI:
3 g0-14-1-3.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.190.230) 8.089 ms 6.875 ms 7.417 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 7.571 ms 7.270 ms 7.579 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 36.701 ms 16.613 ms 15.450 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 17.079 ms 17.588 ms 17.725 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 60.022 ms 59.606 ms 62.001 ms
8 vlan52.ebr2.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.254) 62.446 ms 69.479 ms 62.265 ms
9 ae-2-2.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net (4.69.132.65) 59.937 ms 61.534 ms 62.990 ms
10 ae-11-51.car1.chicago1.level3.net (4.69.138.3) 89.311 ms 219.613 ms 79.806 ms
11 covad.car1.chicago1.level3.net (166.90.73.82) 62.900 ms 64.340 ms 62.643 ms

DAL:
3 g0-14-1-3.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.190.230) 8.403 ms 8.323 ms 6.684 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 7.134 ms 8.166 ms 8.789 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 50.203 ms 29.257 ms 14.676 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 17.227 ms 18.170 ms 17.273 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 59.891 ms 59.179 ms 62.488 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 60.896 ms 62.085 ms 67.227 ms
9 ae-3-3.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.132.89) 59.797 ms 59.719 ms 60.012 ms
10 ae-72-72.csw2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.150) 60.033 ms
ae-82-82.csw3.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.154) 62.494 ms 62.250 ms
11 ae-91-91.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.141) 67.001 ms
ae-61-61.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.129) 72.605 ms
ae-91-91.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.141) 63.020 ms
12 ae-2-2.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.132.85) 60.074 ms 62.370 ms 60.011 ms
13 ae-7-7.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.134.21) 61.857 ms 66.614 ms 62.550 ms
14 ae-83-83.csw3.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.151.157) 61.397 ms
ae-73-73.csw2.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.151.145) 63.449 ms 60.414 ms
15 ae-21-70.car1.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.145.67) 222.112 ms 186.806 ms 129.639 ms
16 covad.car1.dallas1.level3.net (4.78.221.134) 60.142 ms 59.057 ms 62.819 ms

LAX:
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 8.142 ms 8.038 ms 5.967 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 15.609 ms 14.473 ms 17.752 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 18.246 ms 18.126 ms 16.874 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 59.751 ms 61.977 ms 61.029 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 65.954 ms 70.344 ms 67.861 ms
9 ae-6-6.ebr2.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.141.21) 83.970 ms 103.075 ms
ae-4-4.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.141.17) 56.311 ms
10 ae-61-61.csw1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.134.66) 59.036 ms
ae-81-81.csw3.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.134.74) 64.753 ms 60.682 ms
11 ae-41-90.car1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.195) 115.429 ms
ae-21-70.car1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.67) 57.297 ms
ae-31-80.car1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.155.131) 62.174 ms
12 ge2-2.bbsr1.nyc.megapath.net (209.246.126.2) 129.055 ms 96.970 ms 62.162 ms
13 ge-0-1-2-0.nycmny83-mxc1.bb.megapath.net (155.229.70.234) 60.306 ms 62.804 ms 63.981 ms
14 ae3-0.lsancagb-mxc1.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.97) 98.462 ms 99.563 ms 105.436 ms
15 ge-2-0-0-0.c00.law.bb.megapath.net (155.229.70.201) 160.088 ms 101.542 ms 101.196 ms
16 *

SFO:
3 g0-14-1-3.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.190.230) 12.433 ms 15.111 ms 12.098 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 11.230 ms 7.001 ms 11.297 ms
5 ge-7-1-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.33) 54.155 ms 21.938 ms 19.321 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 22.724 ms 19.882 ms 17.909 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 65.134 ms 61.784 ms 67.265 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 68.072 ms 72.625 ms 63.011 ms
9 ae-3-3.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.132.89) 64.053 ms 65.741 ms 64.838 ms
10 ae-62-62.csw1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.146) 69.302 ms 65.179 ms 79.851 ms
11 ae-41-90.car1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.195) 73.547 ms
ae-11-60.car1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.3) 64.871 ms 96.108 ms
12 63.210.41.194 (63.210.41.194) 69.553 ms 77.271 ms 76.626 ms
13 67.100.36.202-ge3.6-atln-osr2-atlanta.covad.com (67.100.36.202) 99.080 ms 104.061 ms 104.325 ms
14 67.100.37.2-ge5.1-atln-osr1-atlanta.covad.com (67.100.37.2) 128.404 ms 113.223 ms 103.724 ms
15 67.100.37.103-ge3.7-chcg-osr2-chicago.covad.com (67.100.37.103) 100.058 ms 101.846 ms 103.041 ms
16 67.100.36.16-ge3.4-dlla-osr1-dallas.covad.com (67.100.36.16) 101.426 ms 101.611 ms 102.259 ms
17 67.100.37.117-ge3.6-phnd-osr2-phoenix.covad.com (67.100.37.117) 99.614 ms 97.097 ms 97.456 ms
18 h-67-100-36-30.noclli.covad.net (67.100.36.30) 97.001 ms 96.816 ms 96.706 ms
19 67.100.36.220-ge3.6-lsan-osr2-los-angeles.covad.com (67.100.36.220) 104.071 ms 102.694 ms 102.073 ms
20 67.100.36.20-ge3.4-lsan-osr1-los-angeles.covad.com (67.100.36.20) 102.458 ms 102.234 ms 102.469 ms
21 67.100.36.121-ge3.6-snva-osr2-sunnyvale.covad.com (67.100.36.121) 104.623 ms 103.531 ms 102.037 ms
22 h-67-100-37-243.noclli.covad.net (67.100.37.243) 102.074 ms 98.916 ms 99.589 ms
23 0.ge-0-0-3.cr1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (74.211.163.1) 102.246 ms 123.863 ms 102.520 ms

SEA:
3 g0-14-1-3.bstnma-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.190.230) 7.866 ms 6.815 ms 7.674 ms
4 so-5-0-0-0.bos-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.151.220) 27.469 ms 9.354 ms 8.194 ms
5 so-7-2-0-0.ny5030-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.19.66) 19.730 ms 14.349 ms 12.389 ms
6 0.xe-3-1-0.br3.nyc4.alter.net (152.63.2.81) 17.069 ms 17.586 ms 69.725 ms
7 te-7-3-0.edge2.newyork2.level3.net (4.68.111.137) 60.007 ms 59.692 ms 62.787 ms
8 vlan51.ebr1.newyork2.level3.net (4.69.138.222) 59.971 ms 67.082 ms 60.006 ms
9 ae-3-3.ebr2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.132.89) 64.903 ms 64.582 ms 62.761 ms
10 ae-62-62.csw1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.146) 59.923 ms
ae-92-92.csw4.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.158) 59.712 ms 62.313 ms
11 ae-12-60.car2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.4) 237.196 ms
ae-22-70.car2.washington1.level3.net (4.69.149.68) 219.690 ms 227.017 ms
12 ge1-1.bbsr1.iad.megapath.net (166.90.148.2) 60.201 ms 59.565 ms 62.756 ms
13 ae1-0.c00.ash.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.162) 131.789 ms 151.358 ms 115.078 ms
14 ae8-0.asbnvacz-mxc1.bb.megapath.net (155.229.70.149) 62.757 ms 61.584 ms 62.749 ms
15 ae3-0.snvacaid-mxc1.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.117) 87.649 ms 88.232 ms 88.867 ms
16 ae0-0.snvacaid-mxc2.bb.megapath.net (155.229.57.14) 89.034 ms 86.116 ms 87.024 ms
17 ge-2-1-0-0.c01.pao.bb.megapath.net (155.229.70.222) 87.691 ms 85.087 ms 85.790 ms
18 spk-mega.c01.pao.megapath.net (66.80.133.30) 87.424 ms 86.700 ms 84.874 ms
19 ge-0-0-0.605.cr1.sea1.speakeasy.net (69.17.87.33) 107.472 ms 106.733 ms 107.536 ms