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Trail of Pierre Poutine leads to open Wi-Fi connection

What makes them think it was via WiFi? What caused them to come to that conclusion?

Has no one here never used a rooted machine with an open socks proxy before?

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I see the snow has finally melted in Ottawa. By September it'll be back to winter again.

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Investigators had hoped the Internet Protocol (IP) address 99.225.28.34 would help point them to a suspect responsible for the more than 6,000 calls to non-Conservatives on election day.

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They found the residents had no apparent connection to the campaign of Conservative candidate Marty Burke and did not appear to know their wireless Internet connection was being misused, according new court documents unsealed in Ottawa on Friday.

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Re: Trail of Pierre Poutine leads to open Wi-Fi connection

The only thing the investigators can do at this time is locate the computer that was used to connect to the router, and check its list of saved connections with the hope that the router was NOT left with its default name of "linksys".
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Funny, don't scare people off. It's not illegal (depending on how you get it).

Mlerner, the article is full of it. He didn't need wifi or be within 99-milies of that open wifi signal. Red herring. The article and the investigator are tossing BS out there.

What we know:

1. 99.225.28.34 Rogers IP, in a house with 4 occupants, w/ an open wifi, residents claim the wireless signal was weak.

If they are clueless about wireless and think the signal was weak, what makes you so sure they weren't rooted and being used as a proxy which slowed down their browsing?

2. It seems unlikely anyone in the Burke campaign head-quarters, which was located northeast of Guelph's down-town, could have connected to a Wi-Fi signal on the opposite side of the city.

They sure could have if this residence had an open proxy! So yes, it's very likely they could have connected. Matter of fact. This is the only way it could have occurred with 5 diff people across town. Unless Rogers wants to state they someone gave the same 2 IP's ...

3. But in court documents, Mathews (an Elections Canada investigator) offers no possible explanation for how or why five campaign workers all signed on from the same IP address used by Poutine - and over a Wi-Fi signal nowhere close to their office.

A) The Investigator who has no clue how this is done: That is because this investigator is A) Playing dumb B) Is dumb C) just wants this all swept under a rug. Many people know how to do this (except Milnoc who wants to hide from Anon and not learn something).

B) (How did 5 workers do this): 5 campaign workers DID NOT have to be parked at this residence's front door to get a wifi signal and that IP. All 5 of them would have proxied in. Heck of a lot more efficient than 6 people total all driving to the other side of town where only one single open wifi signal exists in all of Guelph, eh? This is the only way 5 people who we will assume are very clueless could have done this. There is no other way. Yet the investigator ignores this.

4. Other records obtained by Elections Canada show that five members of the Burke campaign team used that same IP address in the final weeks of the campaign to access CIMS, the Conservative party's central database of voter information.

That is because they had the following:
A) software running on their computer to redirect to the 99.225.28.34 proxy (ie a wingate software like what "Funny" stated, a type of firewall software)
B) Or their browser(s) were setup to use the proxy and they forgot about it.
C) Keep in mind, it's 5 people in the election camaign, not 5 different computers (they never state 5 diff computers).

So, to me the easiest thing that occurred is someone shared a computer that was set-up to connect to the proxy, others used it while the proxy was enabled. Easy as that.

5. Indeed, Mathews (an Elections Canada investigator) suggests that the subscriber information behind the IP address looks to be a dead lead, calling it "so far inconclusive."

The investigator needs to learn what a proxy is. Someone should file a complaint and have this guy removed from the investigation.

The wireless thing reported in the media is a red herring. It's not even required that they be near the signal with a rooted machine. Total BS.

So 5 or 6 people on the same IP across town, Could it be anything else aside from a proxy? No. Unless Rogers wants to come out and say maybe they have wrong records, or some possibility exists where 2 diff Rogers' modems will have the same IP.

Milnoc, I know this is hard for you, so just ignore me.

Just to add clarification:

Above I stated it's either a proxy, or Rogers has some explaining to do with their IP's.

I state this because the Election Campaign HQ where the 5 or 6 people connected to that Rogers IP ("supposedly" via wireless, but that's a crux) on the other side of town also used Rogers internet services.

How about something simple like a cloned / hacked modem and a fixed/forced IP and MAC.

Rogers seems to be very cautious about their modems and stifling tales of hacks and I know that this is not the place to discuss such things.

So, I won't discuss it further other than to say that insecure connection and drive-by sniffing might possibly give you all the information you need for use later.

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Re: Trail of Pierre Poutine leads to open Wi-Fi connection

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Would a cloned modem would ended up having the same IP address at all at different segments of the cable network? Looking at non-aggregated TPIA, there seems to be IP pools for each POI. Not sure how Rogers does it for their subscribers, but likely IP addresses are regional.

If both modem get the same IP, then something will be broken and get noticed. So cloning likely only works on different network segments.