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Duh. Wonder what took them so long to figure it out?

reply to MaynardKrebs
Surely not surprised though.....

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” - Benito Mussolini

reply to MaynardKrebs

Doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me these day as I cut the cable TV cord a long time ago. Hates sports shows and don't care about local new anyways.

Even when I was watching TV, mostly American TV shows on American TV network. The companies(TM) would hijack the delivery side by Canadian "simulcast" because of CRTC's moronic rules.

reply to MaynardKrebs
I'd like to point out that the statistic alone does not indicate a problem. It could be that 100% of the distribution market was controlled by companies that create content, and it still would not alone indicate a problem. It's just a statistic that by itself tells you nothing about what the companies are actually DOING, or about any regulation that might alter behaviour.

Saying that Canada is "worst in G8" without any information on why it's bad is pointless. I could just as easily play the devil's advocate and trumpet the headline "Concentration of media ownership in Canada best in G8 for TV industry" because nobody has given any evidence why a certain percentage is good or bad.

Do I think it's a bad thing? Yes, but can't be good or bad because of what could potentially happen, but what actually does happen.
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Seems inflamatory to me

reply to Gone
>onsidering that the off-air Canadian content you're watching is all owned by the same BDU for whom you cut the cord

Read what I posted very carefully. I watched US TV shows. There are NO Canadian contents in that. I repeat: I do not watch sport shows nor local news.

I did read what you wrote, and claiming that you only watch American channels is ultimately irrelevant. Canadian off-air television is all owned by the same companies that distribute them and who provide Internet access.

You can cut the cord all the want. It doesn't matter. You live in Canada and the off-air system in the country where you live is still fucked up. Cord cutters who think they're sending a message against the BDUs don't realize this.

It's even more upsetting because those same people are probably also streaming content through an Internet connection that is owned by the same BDU that owns the off-air station. This why market consolidation and vertical integration is a terrible terrible thing.

Did I say I how I am getting my TV signals from off-the-air broadcast or satellite or anything? :P

My old analog TV has been gathering dust for a few years and it would at some point I might get some useful parts off it before taking it for disposal. I have no more use for a TV set any more.

reply to Gone
>Even when I was watching TV
>I watched US TV shows.

Note: They are all past tense. There are a lot of things to do outside of watching TV and I have lived quite a few years of my life without TV.

So you don't watch *any* TV at all? Not even television shows you download off the Internet? You don't watch news clips on a website or anything like that? You view zero professionally-produced video at all at any point in your life from the day you cut the cord?

News for the last few days: I watched NASA's landing on NASA site, BBC/Ecuador press release on Assange. Read the forum about those. All of them are where the news happened. There was no point of watching a talking head reading stale news elsewhere in the world with their small "Canadian view" that are a few hours old off a teleprompter squeezed in the allotted 1 minutes segment while wasting time "chatting" with "Bob the weatherman" to fill the rest of the dead time.

Professional video I watched included: a Professional stop motion produced promo of a Hong Kong toy company remaking of latest "Batman" movie, some music video about batman, a few TF2 and other games promos. None of them have anything thing to do with Canadian contents what so ever and these are "professionally" produced that you can't do in your basement.

... and you used your Teksavvy Internet connection which runs over BCE-owned copper wires to view all of that content, right?

>BCE-owned copper wires

My anon nick isn't Ott-DSL last time I checked. I also use voip.ms. I only said I cut the cable TV cord.

I have no choice on my last mile and neither do you nor most Canadians, but I do have some level of control on how I/we spent the rest of my money or my time. I do not visit Rogers video, buy from Radio Shack, nor use a cellphone nor read any of the Canadian newspapers. I made a conscious decision of boycotting them and I urge other to do the same. There is something seriously wrong if I have to spend more money on Canadian telecom fees each month than food like most Canadians.

We are talking about BDU/Media concentration/Vertical-integration and I don't want to drift off topic like you do. Canadian TV, BDU and Canadian contents/distribution are what we should be talking about.

Rogers, BCE, it doesn't make one lucky of difference. The point is that they get their pound of flesh out of you no matter what, and in turn push horrendous policies such as UBB on the population in an effort to protect their other sources of revenue. This is a major problem, and if you think being a cord cutter in Canada means anything you're just lying to yourself.

reply to Ott_Cable

reply to Gone
So far I told you a lot of what I have been trying to do, what about you?

Do you use a totally different connection to the internet or you are just like the rest of us? Do you just like to troll on people that do not agree with you or do you really have a better way?

So how would you improve on the current situation? Do you just sit back and whine like everyone else?

May the person that doesn't use any of the incumbents please speak up.

reply to HeadSpinning
2 down, and just waiting for more to go away. Still doesn't change what I do.

Regardless of how others think, I have reduced my telecom bill to the bare minimum. It might not make a difference for you, but it does for me. If more were to follow, perhaps that would make a tiny dent.

Are you just to going to lie and and not do anything an yet complain about those of us that do? Please enlighten me.