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floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA
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Wanting a new custom build gaming desktop

I'm wanting to get a custom built AMD desktop PC. Any good ideas??? This is what I have come with on my own off the Walmart website for a build:
1) iBUYPOWER Xion Echo Desktop Chassis, Green
2) AMD FX-8120 Processor with Motherboard
3)4 x 2GB = 8GB DDR3-1333 Gaming Grade Memory Module
4) 2TB 7200RPM Hard Disk Drive
5) ATI Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card with 800W Power Supply
6) Blu-ray Disc Rewriter Optical Drive
7) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit Edition
8) 12-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader
for only $958.99. What do think??? Or could I do better on a custom build AMD desktop elsewhere??? What are some of the custom build AMD desktop PC's you have made at what cost??? That might give me some other good ideas as well.


Krisnatharok
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Why AMD? What do you plan to do with it?

My thoughts:
- CPU is overpriced and under-powered (AMD is usually the lesser choice and buyers are either fanboys dedicated to the name or just ignorant of Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge)
- You only need a 550w PSU for that build
- While iBUYPOWER is decent (I have one of their gaming laptops), don't shop at Wal-Mart

I assume this is for gaming? I built a fairly more powerful computer for about $100 less--check out the last post or two here: »Gaming build for teenager (Note: I owned the ram I used, so figure another $45 for ram)

You can see I initially wanted to go with an AMD FX processor, but ended up going with an i5-3450, which frankly will run rings around anything AMD has out there--all for only $150.
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CylonRed
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"or just ignorant of Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge)"

Or just can't get past the premiums, at the time, of the Intel solutions... Since AMD will run 99.99999% of what is thrown at it just fine. Gaming is the only place it does not do as well but when built our machines I built 2 AMD systems for just over $1K. Intel - just for the CPU would have been an additional $150 per CPU and another $75-100 per motherboard.

My Phenom 945 still runs the games I need very well and it is over 3 years old.
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CylonRed
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reply to floydb1982
I would think you could do better with NewEgg in general - the PCU seems to be pretty massive overkill.



Krisnatharok
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reply to CylonRed

said by CylonRed:

"or just ignorant of Ivy Bridge/Sandy Bridge)"

Or just can't get past the premiums, at the time, of the Intel solutions... Since AMD will run 99.99999% of what is thrown at it just fine. Gaming is the only place it does not do as well but when built our machines I built 2 AMD systems for just over $1K. Intel - just for the CPU would have been an additional $150 per CPU and another $75-100 per motherboard.

My Phenom 945 still runs the games I need very well and it is over 3 years old.

What? AMD and Intel mobos are pretty much identical in terms of price, and the Intel i5 is $50 cheaper than the AMD octo-quad-core.

Also, the OP specifically mentioned this is a gaming rig.
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rusdi
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reply to floydb1982
I own a FX8150, and an i7 intel. Believe me, you will be much happier with the i5/7! MUCH more "bang for the buck"! Cheaper & more powerful.

For example, the "flagship" FX8150, with it's native eight-core, doesn't perform 2/3ds as well as an i7 2600k, (hyper-threaded out to eight "virtual" cores.)

Be smart, save some $$$$$$, and do an i5/7 platform.

You will thank me later!!
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Ghastlyone
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Las Vegas, NV
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reply to floydb1982
After seeing the performance of my new i5 3570k for gaming, I'd stick with Intel.

Reading the CPU Benchmark website, the i5 3570 is hands down the best performing CPU per dollar. You can't get any better.


computerman2
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Rockwood, MI
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Got me an AMD APU based System in June, and i have to say it runs so fast, games run great, Plus i saved money, by not going Intel at the time, Intel was way over my price range then

In The end The user will be happy I'm Sure with whatever processor he chooses, Each Processor has there weakness and all that, but this AMD Processor and Discrete Class video handles everything i throw at it with ease



Krisnatharok
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Gaming on an APU? What games and resolution? Are you maxing out details? Call me highly skeptical.



Krisnatharok
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reply to rusdi

said by rusdi:

For example, the "flagship" FX8150, with it's native eight-core

It's not truly eight-core, it's four "modules" that are each subdivided into two gimped cores (by sharing instruction scheduling and CPU resources).

More info here: Analyzing Bulldozer: Why AMD’s chip is so disappointing.
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asdfdfdfdfdf
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reply to floydb1982
If you are willing to buy directly from ibuypower, rather than through wal-mart, you will have more flexibility in choice of components, especially things like being able to get a better quality power supply than the standard ibuypower supply.

I can help you pick out components at ibuypower if you want to go this way.

If you only want to buy through wal-mart then you have made reasonable choices but I would spend the few extra dollars to go with the 3570 cpu.



Ghastlyone
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reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

Gaming on an APU? What games and resolution? Are you maxing out details? Call me highly skeptical.

Probably running 1280x1024.


rusdi
American V
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reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

said by rusdi:

For example, the "flagship" FX8150, with it's native eight-core

It's not truly eight-core, it's four "modules" that are each subdivided into two gimped cores (by sharing instruction scheduling and CPU resources).

More info here: Analyzing Bulldozer: Why AMD’s chip is so disappointing.

Yeah, it kinda baffles me why AMD didn't just spend the extra money/time, and do the real deal, (no $hit eight core). No doubt it would have made a better CPU, and sold at whatever price they were asking!
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CylonRed
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reply to Krisnatharok
Not when I was looking at them 3+ years ago for my own gaming system...



Krisnatharok
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Sandy/Ivy Bridge wasn't out 3+ years ago....



jmn1207
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Ashburn, VA
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Micro Center is selling the i7 3770K for $290. I couldn't pass it up. Great deal and noticeable bump from my i7-950.



CylonRed
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reply to Krisnatharok
Which does not matter - Intel has always carried a premium and it was a premium could not get past for what had to be spent compared to AMD. Very rarely has it not carried a premium at least when I was building a new machine. I looked and looked for 2 months before I decided on my system and had various spreadsheets all of the way down to individual stores and combinations to try and get the best prices. At the time I was looking - AMD won by hundreds of dollars per PC.

"Not when I was looking at them 3+ years"
Them in this sentence quite obviously means - Intel solutions - nto specifically Ivy\Sandy bridge.

Point is - there ARE other reasons why to build AMD or buy AMD without it being fan boys or 'ignorant' (ignorant is your words - not mine).
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Krisnatharok
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said by CylonRed:

Point is - there ARE other reasons why to build AMD or buy AMD without it being fan boys or 'ignorant' (ignorant is your words - not mine).

... sadly, not anymore. At least not in terms of gaming PCs. Intel beats them at every price point, even with the new Pentiums.
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markofmayhem
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Pittsburgh, PA
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said by Krisnatharok:

said by CylonRed:

Point is - there ARE other reasons why to build AMD or buy AMD without it being fan boys or 'ignorant' (ignorant is your words - not mine).

... sadly, not anymore. At least not in terms of gaming PCs. Intel beats them at every price point, even with the new Pentiums.

So true. I was disheartened when shopping for an AMD solution specific for gaming and at the same "tier" Intel had a cheaper, superior performing alternative. Gaming, for gaming, I said gaming in particular

Other price points exist, but at the $200 level, if a single graphics card solution is good enough:

Interested in overclocking:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19116504

Not interested in overclocking:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19115234

If SLI/Crossfire is something that is interesting, go i7.

I also think a 6870 is not a great choice. One generation old, the loosing side of the Nvidia/ATI fence. Can you look into the Nvidia GTX 6** or AMD 7*** series of GPU's and see if they are affordable for you? It depends on which games, really.
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FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
New York, NY
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reply to floydb1982
Windows 8 coming Oct 26th.


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