 icemannyr1 join:2001-04-11 Township Of Washington, NJ | reply to FIOS4cable
Re: [IMG] Emergency Alert System Broadcast Message Every week For the first time since we have had FiOS the EAS was used twice tonight for a tornado warning. |
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 JackarinoPremium join:2006-12-28 Allendale, NJ kudos:1 | Mine went off tonight for the Tornado as well |
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 bohratomJersey Shore will rise again join:2011-07-07 Red Bank NJ 1 edit | said by Jackarino:Mine went off tonight for the Tornado as well Same here in Monmouth County. The only issue I have is the tornado warning was for those in Warren County but since its in VHO7, like Monmouth, we get the warning. Would be nice if they could instead distribute the warnings based on zipcodes which is included in the stb info. |
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 JackarinoPremium join:2006-12-28 Allendale, NJ kudos:1 | They do it this way maybe because of the folks with digital adapters? |
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 sg join:2007-07-23 Montclair, NJ | reply to FIOS4cable Heh, I got that warning tonight -- first I've ever seen a non-test -- and was wondering if this thread would be bumped.
I get that the tests are required by law, but I don't think anyone has addressed the question (asked in the OP) of whether that requirement extends to when you are not watching TV: ie. using the DVR to watch recorded programming, or when watching OnDemand content.
Either way, I don't have a problem with the test themselves, just how Verizon handles it. Boots you out of your DVR and OnDemand and when the test is over it doesn't take you back |
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 tnsprin join:2003-07-23 Bradenton, FL kudos:1 | said by sg:Heh, I got that warning tonight -- first I've ever seen a non-test -- and was wondering if this thread would be bumped.
I get that the tests are required by law, but I don't think anyone has addressed the question (asked in the OP) of whether that requirement extends to when you are not watching TV: ie. using the DVR to watch recorded programming, or when watching OnDemand content.
Either way, I don't have a problem with the test themselves, just how Verizon handles it. Boots you out of your DVR and OnDemand and when the test is over it doesn't take you back Yes it is required for DVR and ON-demand. You wouldn't want to miss a tornado alert just because your weren't watching live would you?
Still it be nice if they handled it better. Continued to record any programs being recorded, and picked up the DVR playback or on-demand exactly where they were interrupted. |
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 sg join:2007-07-23 Montclair, NJ | said by tnsprin:Yes it is required for DVR and ON-demand. You wouldn't want to miss a tornado alert just because your weren't watching live would you? There are plenty of things I could be doing other than watching live TV that would cause me to miss a tornado alert. Would you expect to be interrupted while watching a DVD? I don't see how a regulation intended for television broadcasts would cover recorded or OnDemand programming. DVR content is obviously not broadcast at all, and OnDemand is internet-based. No other internet video streaming services transmit the test. Further, reading the actual regulation posted in this thread (47 C.F.R. §11.61), the law specifies that they only must transmit the test on "programmed channels".
I'm not arguing the merits of interrupting these services for emergencies (again, my real issue is only with Verizon's execution), but I think the idea that they are required to do it for services other than live television is dubious at best. |
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 icemannyr1 join:2001-04-11 Township Of Washington, NJ | reply to FIOS4cable I was a a place that had Optimum and instead of the EAS alert talking over the STB with a full screen message there is a red bar with white text that appears at the top of the screen with the EAS Alert and then it goes away.
If you watch the FiOS EAS alerts they can do the same thing as there is a scroll at the top of the screen in addition to the full screen message. My only guess as to why they don't just use the scroll is because the scroll does not show up for people using cable card devices like a TiVO. |
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 | said by icemannyr1:My only guess as to why they don't just use the scroll is because the scroll does not show up for people using cable card devices like a TiVO. The scroll shows up on my TiVo. It's actually formatted more nicely, too. |
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 | this is extremely annoying since it erases any cache you had paused, i was in the middle of a movie just 2 nights ago, had it paused for about 30 minutes, the EAS came on and when it ended the movie was resumed from the live feed and the entire cache was gone, so i had to wait 2 days to see the next reair =\
i also hate that they havent pushed an update to make it resume fully recorded dvr programs where it was when it cut off |
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 hubrisnxs join:2009-12-30 Fountain Valley, CA kudos:1 | reply to FIOS4cable the one thing i like about uverse, is when that annoying EAS comes on it has a stop button, or more info button, or you let it ride out. scares the crap out of my 1 year old though. |
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 | It woudnt bother me if these came on at 1or2 a.m. but it came on during the bradcast of a live preseason nba game i was watching, this better not start happening during the regular season,because in 14 years with directv i never have this happen. |
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 ggma1126GGMA1126Premium join:2008-08-30 Claymont, DE | reply to FIOS4cable just seems to me they are more frequent now than ever before |
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 | reply to PJL said by PJL:What's the problem? These tests have been around on OTA stations for decades. You all haven't gotten used to them yet?  I'm certainly used to them. I cam remember 640/1240 Conelrad on radio stations.
That doesn't mean I like them, particularly when the tests interrupt programming. Couldn't they interrupt a commercial block? |
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| said by billhere:said by PJL:What's the problem? These tests have been around on OTA stations for decades. You all haven't gotten used to them yet?  I'm certainly used to them. I cam remember 640/1240 Conelrad on radio stations. That doesn't mean I like them, particularly when the tests interrupt programming. Couldn't they interrupt a commercial block? Ah you're dating yourself! Remember, the alerts are initiated by the originators (not Verizon) and are inserted on all channels simultaneously. So, no they couldn't interrupt a commercial block. The tests are to ensure that the end-to-end system (from the originator to the viewer) works. I, for one, don't mind the test to ensure reliability so that the system works when it needs to -- like right now with Hurricane Sandy. |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:8 1 edit | reply to ggma1126 said by ggma1126:just seems to me they are more frequent now than ever before Part of that is FCC regulations of EAS alerts are being followed/enforced more since the big National alert planning that happened last year. The EAS alert system has also been undergoing a massive overhaul the last year or two with new protocol and equipment requirements, which have to be tested. FCC National EAS reporting site: »www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/emergen···ide-test New EAS rules: »www.broadcastlawblog.com/2012/03···n-april/ -- If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes. |
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 | reply to FIOS4cable After all the "alerts", I haven't seen one at all for Hurricane Sandy |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:8 | said by Photoman15:After all the "alerts", I haven't seen one at all for Hurricane Sandy contact your local and regional government authorities about that. They're the ones in control of the alerts. |
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 NezmoThe name's Bond. James Bond.Premium,MVM join:2004-11-10 Coppell, TX kudos:1 | said by DrDrew:said by Photoman15:After all the "alerts", I haven't seen one at all for Hurricane Sandy contact your local and regional government authorities about that. They're the ones in control of the alerts. Contact them to remind them to send warnings over EAS? Obviously the EAS system is a big fat bureaucratic fail given no one has seen any warnings of it regarding Sandy. Kind of like the local civil warning sirens going off every first Wednesday at 1pm for a test and never going off when a tornado is around the corner. -- My Gallery Formerly Nezmo  |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:8 | Are EAS warnings really needed for Sandy when every news station in the US has coverage of it? What more information do you expect to get from an EAS alert? |
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