1 edit | Dish Network Said to Plan Nationwide Satellite Broadband As if I was not totally confused already, and frustrated that no satellite broadband company seems willing or able to currently offer me 5mb service in my zip code (99401), I read the news story below on Bloomberg that Dish will be potentially entering the fray as early as next month. What's especially confusing is it appears that two or more companies are using the same exact satellite (Echostar 17) to expand/improve their service. So based on what is my understanding: 1) Dish to enter the satellite broadband business. 2) Echostar is the company that owns the satellites and puts them up. 3) Echostar and Dish are essentially the same company with the same CEO at the top. 4) Echostar has satellite usage/leasing deals with Viasat/Exede and Hughesnet, which has enabled them to offer improved service, albeit some of that capacity is already filled. 5) Perhaps not coincidently, it seems that Hughesnet and Dish may be offering new service around the end of September. I was just about ready to order service from Hughesnet (after giving up on Exede) with the hopes that it would be a path to 5 mb service, I might once again have to go into another holding pattern to wait and see what Dish might have to offer at the end of September.
»www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-1···ice.html
Dish Network Said to Plan Nationwide Satellite Broadband
By Alex Sherman - Aug 15, 2012 9:01 PM PT
Dish Network Corp. is preparing to introduce a nationwide broadband-Internet service using a satellite from sister company EchoStar Corp. (SATS), according to three people familiar with the situation.
The EchoStar 17 satellite, launched into orbit July 5, can support download speeds of 15 megabits per second, although introductory nationwide packages will probably offer rates of 5 megabits so the system can take on more capacity, said one of the people, who declined to be named because the plans are private. Dish and EchoStar can handle about 2 million new Internet customers with the service, the person said.
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| Echostar owns Dish & Hughes |
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| So this whole news story is just a re-packaging of services or branding of Gen4/Hughesnet? |
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| I believe so but the big word in the story is RUMORED |
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| reply to cheesey1
throw this in your banana, Hughes is also teaming up with Frontier Communication, they have connections with Dish Network |
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said by sharkyyoung:I believe so but the big word in the story is RUMORED Did one read Karl Bode's take?
»Dish to Launch Nationwide Satellite Broadband Service
" While insiders note that Echostar's new EchoStar 17 satellite can handle services up to 15 Mbps, initial Dish offerings will likely be dialed down to 5 Mbps to protect capacity. " |
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1 edit | Reading between the lines .....
While insiders note that Echostar's new EchoStar 17 satellite can handle services up to 15 Mbps, initial Dish offerings will likely be dialed down to 5 Mbps which will allow us to oversell, and still charge you a premium price. Although we advertize plans up to 5 Mbps we do not promise you will receive it, and you shouldn't expect it. If you do get a laggy 1.5 Mbps you should feel blessed and fortunate to even get that! |
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| I don't know, I have the mid range plan that states up to 1.5Mbps, and I usually pull 3 Mbps |
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1 edit | Your plan is capped at 1.5Mbps How is this even remotely possible! |
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| I can't explain it, I am no computer engineer, just checked my upload and download speeds and that's what I got |
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said by ricky_005:Your plan is capped at 1.5Mbps How is this even remotely possible!
It's not rare, I have heard similar from many people; I also get speeds around 3Mbps when doing downloads during the Download Zone. Most of the time web browsing isn't so pleasant either way however.
I think Hughes' speed test rated me about 2.5Mbps. Seeing downloads of 300KB/s is not uncommon for me.
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Re: Dish Network Said to Plan Nationwide Satellite Broadband when i left hughes about 8 months ago, i was getting 2-2.5 mbps down even though i was on the 1mbps plan
take a look at this thread »[HN9000] What the Heck!? I Must Be Dreaming! |
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Re: Dish Network Said to Plan Nationwide Satellite Broadband said by chances14:when i left hughes about 8 months ago, i was getting 2-2.5 mbps down even though i was on the 1mbps plan
take a look at this thread »So Long "Dream"
After Hughes made some changes the technology used with Spaceway/9000 system modems about a year ago, there were many 9000 users that were reporting speeds that were up to double advertised plan maximums. And those reported scores were showing up on multiple speed tests, including the Hughes test, Speedtest.net, and testmy.net. |
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HughesNet's own in-house speed test always prints out your speed is around 2.2 Mbps ... Every wonder why you have to be a HughesNet customer to use it? lol
Do you really believe Hughes is giving you more than what you paid for? If so consciousness/reality alludes you! |
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Re: Dish Network Said to Plan Nationwide Satellite Broadband said by ricky_005:HughesNet's own in-house speed test always prints out your speed is around 2.2 Mbps ... Every wonder why you have to be a HughesNet customer to use it? lol
Do you really believe Hughes is giving you more than what you paid for? If so consciousness/reality alludes you!
again i ask you to look over this thread »[HN9000] What the Heck!? I Must Be Dreaming!
mutiple people using speed test sites other than the hughes speed test were reporting faster speeds than their stated plan
now that was almost a year ago so things have probably changed but i'm just pointing out that they have given users "more than what you paid for" in the past. so it's not out of reality |
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Rothbury, MI | reply to ricky_005
HughesNet's own in-house speed test always prints out your speed is around 2.2 Mbps ... Every wonder why you have to be a HughesNet customer to use it? lol
Do you really believe Hughes is giving you more than what you paid for? If so consciousness/reality alludes you!
Really, get bigger tin foil hat.
For crying out load.. why don't you just download a file of known size and time the doggone thing.
Isn't it really about real world throught put anyway ?
This is a help forum. Iv'e yet to see a "helpfull" post from you. Rants & Raves is further down the forms list. |
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| said by gwalk:HughesNet's own in-house speed test always prints out your speed is around 2.2 Mbps ... Every wonder why you have to be a HughesNet customer to use it? lol
Do you really believe Hughes is giving you more than what you paid for? If so consciousness/reality alludes you!
Really, get bigger tin foil hat.
For crying out load.. why don't you just download a file of known size and time the doggone thing.
Isn't it really about real world throught put anyway ?
This is a help forum. Iv'e yet to see a "helpfull" post from you. Rants & Raves is further down the forms list.
Actually, you don't have to be a Hughes customer to use the Hughes speed test. All you have to do is to enter any number with at least 5 digits for your SAN. In the time since I've had an internet option other than Hughes, I've often gone back to the Hughes test to confirm the speeds that I'm getting, and I find the Hughes test to be one of the more accurate because it uses reasonably large file sizes, and, thus, the final results are not dramatically higher or lower because of short bursts of high or low speed.
But we seem to have a relatively new member who would rather not be confused by reality and who would choose, instead, to insult anyone who tries to provide him with reality, including several long time members who have had long histories of providing help to others. |
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