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Mizzat
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Wipe/format a Hard Drive

Hi all, came to ask a remedial question. I got some old PCs from a doctor's office. They never held patient files, they were just workstations that accessed software that held the database on a closed LAN.

However, I still want to wipe them good and clean before we donate to a local school.

Is dban still a good option? Any other software that does a good job of wiping it nice and clean?

They have Windows product keys on the side, but I don't have an install disk, so I just want to wipe them and let them use the keys.
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angussf
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dban, or Heidi's Eraser from »eraser.heidi.ie/ or »portableapps.com/apps/security/e···portable



StuartMW
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Or a big-ass magnet



Mizzat
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said by StuartMW:

Or a big-ass magnet

Lol, even though an HDD is magnetic I feel that will corrupt the HDD, and I want these to be reused by the school.
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Eraser looks neat, but I'm wanting to wipe systems drives and it would be a PITA to remove them all to slave them to my machine to wipe. That's how eraser appears to work from what I read. Wanting to find some sort of USB or ISO for a CD/DVD that I can boot into and wipe the drives.
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StuartMW
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Many HD manufacturers have test/wipe utilities but if you have multiple brands of disk that'd be a PITA as those utilities usually only work with their drives.

Some of these utilities require a MS-DOS boot floppy although I have seen CD/DVD bootable versions.
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DBAN, you can create a boot disk or CD, boot the system from the DBAN disk, and wipe the whole drive. You can even select which method to use including DOD strength wiping algorithms.
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Dustyn
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»Secure Erase: CMRR
August 2009 Update: The NSA is no longer supporting Dr. Hughes research, so he and his grad students can no longer support the software. However it still works. I also updated the link above. End update.

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Re: Wipe/format a Hard Drive

DBAN is still what I use. Make sure you download 2.2.6 beta for the best compatibility and performance.
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redwolfe_98
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Re: Wipe/format a Hard Drive

i thought "DBAN" was "history", that it was, for some reason, no longer usable? i thought that is what i had heard people saying, in the past..

is "DBAN" still usable for wiping harddrives?



norwegian
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Maybe a question to koitsu See Profile in the hardware forum could answer that?



angussf
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said by redwolfe_98:

is "DBAN" still usable for wiping harddrives?

Yes, I use it all the time.

I think you can put Eraser Portable on a BartPE and boot from that to wipe the drive as well.

Also:
How to Securely Erase Your Hard Drive
»brentsplace.info/hard_drive.shtml
If you have Norton Ghost, BartPE or better yet Ultimate Boot CD for Windows and are comfortable using the command-line, use GDisk or the GDisk plugin for BartPE, with one of the following commands. (Replace disk with the disk number - 1 to 8, and n with the desired, customized number of passes.)
Here's another free diskwiper. I have several of the utilities from Terabyte, they're good people.
Hard Drive Copy and Secure Wipe Software - CopyWipe
»www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php
CopyWipe™ is a utility for copying or securely overwriting (wiping/erasing) entire hard drives. CopyWipe can ease and expedite the transition to a new hard drive by copying the entire contents of one drive to another. CopyWipe can also help prevent confidential or private data from being recovered, by securely wiping the contents of a drive. A number of options are provided for wiping, most of which exceed governmental standards (such as DoD 5220.22-M, NAVSO P-5239-26, etc.); this allows the user to choose an optimal balance between security and duration of the wiping operation.

A USB 2.0-to-IDE adapter, along with CopyWipe, provides a convenient method to create and maintain a complete hard drive mirrored backup. Click here for an example of a USB 2.0-to-IDE adapter and here for another.

Best of all, CopyWipe is now FREE!

The following downloads are available:
  • * CopyWipe for DOS - Self-booting diskette or CD/DVD.
  • * CopyWipe for Windows - Console-based Win32 application.
  • * PEBuilder Plug-In - CopyWipe on a Bootable Windows DVD.

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redwolfe_98
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thanks angussf.. it seems that the harddisk vendors (seagate and western digital) no longer supply utilities for wiping harddrives, which is a problem for me.. so i need to find alternatives..



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Thanks, I used dban. It was crashing when I tried to do a manual wipe, but when I autonuked, it worked fine, however it erased my USB stick as well. Not a big deal, but being flash memory, lot's of wipes can be bad for it. Hopefully the rest of the PCs won't have to go through that option.

It says in dban that one of the DOD methods it uses is the same as the Eraser program. It does 7 wipes.
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said by redwolfe_98:

thanks angussf.. it seems that the harddisk vendors (seagate and western digital) no longer supply utilities for wiping harddrives...

Western Digital (still) has their Data Lifeguard Diagnostic tool on their website, There are a few different versions (HD dependent) so I can't give a link. Just go to

»support.wdc.com

Seagate has SeaTools.

»www.seagate.com/support/downloads/

Both found with 2 sec Google searches.

Yes they say they're "diagnostic" tools but I believe both have a wipe/low-level format function.

FYI Hitachi has their Drive Fitness Test which I recently used to test/wipe an old laptop drive.
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Click for full size
One other tool you could use is HD Tune.
»www.hdtune.com/
Current version is v5.00.


Mizzat
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FYI, I fixed the erasing my USB stick by pulling it out after it loaded the filesystem after typing autonuke and right before it started checking for USB peripherals. Worked like a charm!
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antdude
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Re: Wipe/format a Hard Drive

How long do these wiper programs take to erase big HDD? Let's say a 1 TB size? I hope they don't take many hours and days!



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Did you see my updated post?

»Re: A factory install to make unrecoverable old data?

From the link in that.

quote:
Time Required: It could take several minutes to several hours to write zeros to a hard drive via the format command

For a 1TB drive I'd guess many many hours.
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said by StuartMW:

Did you see my updated post?

»Re: A factory install to make unrecoverable old data?

From the link in that.

quote:
Time Required: It could take several minutes to several hours to write zeros to a hard drive via the format command

For a 1TB drive I'd guess many many hours.

Oh, nope. I didn't. Thanks. Darn, hours?
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Darn, hours?

Well you can always skip it and let the new owner recover your ant porn images
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said by StuartMW:

said by antdude:

Darn, hours?

Well you can always skip it and let the new owner recover your ant porn images

LOL! Check out those sexy alates.
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said by antdude:

Check out those sexy alates.

Whatever

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Floats your boat
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Dban crashes right away when wiping. :(

So I finally tried my burned bootable burned CD-RW Dban program on the old PC's SATA HDD. It crashed right away on /dev/sd* drives. It mentioned logs, but where are they and how do I get to them? Maybe it crashed because of the encrypted HDD (PGP)? I don't know why. I gave up and did a factory reinstall from Dell's DVD since I was out of free time to work on this more. I also deleted all partitions except the Dell one. I hope that's enough!
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What I've done, even recently, is to use the Windows Format command with the /p switch to zero the drive. I've even booted off a Windows DVD and used the "repair your computer" option to get to a command line so the format command can be used.

I keep a number of bootable DVD's/ISO's/USB stick's around for doing just this kind of thing

»www.bootfromcd.com/data-recovery···ry-disk/
(Has links to downloadable ISO images)

FYI you can boot off a Win7/Vista DVD and get to Win2K/XP/etc installations. I do it all the time. That said when you get to the screen that shows Windows installations, and that is blank (Win2K/XP aren't recognized), just hit the next button.
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dban crashed a lot on me as well. Try just doing the auto, that seemed to work for me.
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said by Mizzat:

dban crashed a lot on me as well. Try just doing the auto, that seemed to work for me.

OK, I will try that next time if I run into that problem again since I already got rid of the machine.
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