| Fios SD - HD channel remapping Do you think we will ever see SD-HD channel remapping --ala-- DTV style where the HD will override the SD by default when hitting just channel 5 instead of 505, etc. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA | I hate that DirecTV feature. |
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compPremium
join:2001-08-16
Cranberry Twp, PA | said by aaronwt:I hate that DirecTV feature.
Really? it think that is one of the best |
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 matcarlPremium
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | reply to jsoto
They already have something close to it by just hitting the C button. At least it gives you the option. |
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Doesn't do much for me, as I hardly ever venture into SD territory! |
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| reply to aaronwt
Uh. Why.
U prefer to watch the same content in SD when it's also broadcast in HD ?
DTV gives YOU the option to turn it on or off .
Not sure what's there to hate.... |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
 ·Verizon FiOS
| said by jsoto :Uh. Why.
U prefer to watch the same content in SD when it's also broadcast in HD ?
DTV gives YOU the option to turn it on or off .
Not sure what's there to hate....
I want to know the channel I'm looking at. I don't want to be on certain channel number that is showing content from a different channel number.
I want the content on the channel number to match what I'm watching.
This feature seems like it's aimed at the people who know nothing, or don't care about HD(like the people who are watching SD content on an HD set and swear it looks great and are watching HD, the ones that have no clue). It forces them to watch the HD content when they go to an SD channel.
If I ever tune to an SD channel it is on purpose, not by mistake. So I expect to see SD content from an SD channel. |
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| Most people don't know anything.
One of the things in my mind that holds back HD adoption rates from providers and limits the number of HD channels for those who have it is having the different channel numbers, in addition to box fees, programming fees, and bandwidth. |
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PJL
join:2008-07-24
Long Beach, CA
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by osravens:Most people don't know anything.
One of the things in my mind that holds back HD adoption rates from providers and limits the number of HD channels for those who have it is having the different channel numbers, in addition to box fees, programming fees, and bandwidth.
You all may have forgotten that DirecTV scatters the HD channels around next to the equivalent SD channel. FiOS puts most (except some PPV, etc.) HD channels in a block starting at 500. I would think most people could undertand that but might have more of a issue remembering what the HD channels are when they're mixed right in with the SD channels.
I do not believe "having the different channel number" holds back HD adoption rates. |
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I switched from DirecTV to FiOS last October. I really preferred the DirecTV channel mapping, but it was fairly easy to get used to HD channels starting in the 500 range, especially with the C key feature.
Most channels are fine, 2 corresponds to 502 and 70 corresponds to 570, but 50 corresponds to 508, and 189 corresponds to 689. |
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For old people used to turning to channel 5 who now have to use channel 505, it is a challenge. It's better with FiOS because it at least makes sense, a ton of lineups don't. Comcast will have you turn to 231 for an HD channel that's SD channel 5, what does that mean?
It is definitely part of what holds back HD adoption rates. Technology fees are a bigger part of it though, but I see no problem with what DirecTV does with their channel mapping. I think it's more of a problem that they add an additional $10/month for HD without auto bill pay. |
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PJL
join:2008-07-24
Long Beach, CA
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by osravens:For old people used to turning to channel 5 who now have to use channel 505, it is a challenge.... I think you're giving our seniors a bad rap. Having them remember very different channel numbers for HD channels versus familiar channels like "5" is indeed a challenge -- but not just for them but for everyone. But adding "500" to the "familiar" channel number is not very difficult to grasp, and all the "old people" I know can add. |
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 JackarinoPremium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to jsoto
1 thing I liked with CV is that all SD channels are automatically switched to HD |
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As FIOS no longer has SD boxes, those of us with remaining SD tvs around our homes use HD boxes for SD tvs. And I like the SD pic on that tv, so automatic switching would be annoying for me.
Otherwise, I think most people probably know how to tune to the upper channels for HD and the info screen clearly tells you to hit the C if you want the HD version of the channel. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| reply to billhere
said by billhere: 189 corresponds to 689.
. 89 goes with 589... simply ADD 500 to most SD chan #'s, ergo BBC/A = 189SD and 689HD.
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"My hat, my cane, Jeeves". |
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| reply to texastown
I take it channel SD TO HD remapping has not been discussed as a feature change. I get the C...
My wife, who's accustomed to using DTV for years just hit's 5 ....
It's natural habit I suppose.
I don't think it would be hard to implement but I guess there's always a reason for NOT doing it. |
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compPremium
join:2001-08-16
Cranberry Twp, PA Reviews:
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said by aaronwt:said by jsoto :Uh. Why.
U prefer to watch the same content in SD when it's also broadcast in HD ?
DTV gives YOU the option to turn it on or off .
Not sure what's there to hate....
I want to know the channel I'm looking at. I don't want to be on certain channel number that is showing content from a different channel number. I want the content on the channel number to match what I'm watching. This feature seems like it's aimed at the people who know nothing, or don't care about HD(like the people who are watching SD content on an HD set and swear it looks great and are watching HD, the ones that have no clue). It forces them to watch the HD content when they go to an SD channel. If I ever tune to an SD channel it is on purpose, not by mistake. So I expect to see SD content from an SD channel. Right but is there a reason you would tune to a SD version of a channel instead of the HD. The whole point of the Direct TV feature was that if there was an HD Version of a channel, it would only map to that one and not the SD one |
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This is one of my favorite things about FiOS. Adding 500 to get an HD channel. And pressing "C" to go to the HD equivalent channel is great too.
Way back when I had the Crap-of-Com, I loathed trying to find an HD channel, besides the Picture quality etc. Ex: ch. 57 is this in SD, in HD its ch. 667 and 845 in HD. WHAAT? two HD channels for thee same channel? What the Hell.
I just Love the adding 500 feature. It is so simple to remember, and that "C" to watch in HD, is great as well. Also, a bunch of features from FiOS makes them so easy for the everyday person, that other companies do not make as easy to understand or figure out. |
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Mtaz
join:2008-10-21
Hawthorne, NJ | reply to Greg2600
Ditto! |
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Ike1
join:2012-06-02
Newark, NJ | reply to comp
said by aaronwt:Right but is there a reason you would tune to a SD version of a channel instead of the HD. The whole point of the Direct TV feature was that if there was an HD Version of a channel, it would only map to that one and not the SD one I can't speak for others, but for me, I like having the SD channels for recording purposes, to save space. I don't need the SD channels for live TV but they can be useful if I'm running out of hard drive space on the DVR. There are some programs that I don't need to see in HD anyway, like the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. I'll record it in HD if I have a lot of space, but I can choose the SD version if I don't. More importantly, my friends with 6416 DVRs (only 180 GB, I think) record the Daily Show and Colbert Report in SD and they would be really ticked off if they couldn't do that to save space.
I used to have Cablevision and they re-mapped the HD channels over the SD channels and eliminated those SD channels. I was REALLY annoyed -- especially because Cablevision only has (or had, at the time) 180 GB DVRs and nothing bigger, and no way to add an external hard drive. So I'd run out of space on that stupid DVR (with its primitive interface, looking like it was programmed on a Commodore 64 or something!) in the blink of an eye.
I'm all in favor of re-mapping for live TV as long as I can CHOOSE to record in SD (maybe as a menu option after you hit "record" or something like that). There are a LOT of VERY ignorant people out there who don't know the difference between SD and HD and will keep surfing through the 0-500 channels and saying, "Why does this look so bad compared to Cablevision? I'm going back to Cablevision!" Never overestimate the intelligence of the average person. |
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