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Boricua
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reply to kickass69

Re: Adobe Flash Player 11.4.402.265/10.3.183.23

Until Flash is written to be stable, this is going to be a weekly (or daily) chore to keeping it updated .
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

I've said time and time again that when Adobe added sandboxing to Flash in the late 11.2 and 11.3 versions is when all these problems arose plus who knows what else they changed. While the idea is sound, all these issues are proving it's not worth it and they should remove it.



gugarci
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reply to Boricua

said by Boricua:

Until Flash is written to be stable, this is going to be a weekly (or daily) chore to keeping it updated .

Not really. Do what I do, only update to a newer version if it contains security fixes. If your old version works well and the new version does not contain any security fixes DO NOT UPDATE!!!!! Until this past update I was still using 11.3.300.262 since the other 11.3 version were bug fixes only.
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Name Game
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I guess also if you have a recent and not very old one..you could also pass up the security fixes since they now claim the following and sometimes it is hard to find new versions that work as well as the last one you currently have installed.

June 7, 2012

Overall, the Flash Player sandbox process has been a journey of incremental improvements with each step bringing end-users a more secure environment. We started by supporting Protected Mode within Internet Explorer, which enabled Flash Player to run as a low integrity process with limited write capabilities. From there, we worked with Google on building the Chrome sandbox, which converted Flash Player to using a more robust broker implementation. This release of Flash Player Protected Mode for Firefox on Windows takes the Chrome implementation one step further by changing Flash Player to run with job limits on the process. With Flash Player Protected Mode being based on the same technology as Adobe Reader X, we are confident that this implementation will be a significant barrier and help prevent exploits via Flash Player for Firefox users. Going forward, we plan to continue to build on this infrastructure with more sandbox projects, such as our upcoming release of Flash Player for Chrome Pepper. As we combine these efforts with other efforts, such as the background updater, we are making it increasingly more difficult for Flash Player to be targeted for malicious purposes.

»blogs.adobe.com/asset/2012/06/in···fox.html

Older info..
"Running the plugin in a sandbox, otherwise known as protected mode, will potentially reduce the seriousness of any code vulnerabilities by isolating it from the system.

'Sandboxing technology has proven very effective in protecting users by increasing the cost and complexity of authoring effective exploits,' said Peleus Uhley, senior security researcher for Adobe.

'For example, since its launch in November 2010, we have not seen a single successful exploit in the wild against Adobe Reader X. We hope to see similar results with the Flash Player sandbox for Firefox once the final version is released later this year.'

This usually applies to Firefox 4.0 or later versions running on Windows 7 or Vista."
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OZO
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said by Name Game:

'Sandboxing technology has proven very effective in protecting users by increasing the cost and complexity of authoring effective exploits,' said Peleus Uhley, senior security researcher for Adobe.

It looks like they (and BTW, many others too) become liking the new buzzword - "sandboxing". First, they (Adobe) started using different tricks to get to direct API calls, that allow modification (reading / writing) objects in computer (files, registry, etc). And then, when people discovered that those direct calls may do real harm to their systems, they (Adobe) started to talk about making a "protection layer" (sandbox), that presumably isolates system from those direct calls, made by their plugins / activeX components... See, how fun it is?

Why we see all this fuss now?

Because Adobe/Macromedia wants to have that direct access to everyone's computer. To control, to monitor, to do other similar stuff... Past several years they tried to foist their new service, that runs on the background, they silently put scheduled tasks, which may wake up and execute whatever they want, they silently request elevated privileges in IE, allowing to have access to your registry directly from web sites. And when some of those tricks become widely exploited by others (who knew that would happened, right? ) they issued new security patches again, and again, and again... And now they start covering their real intentions (having control over your computer) with the latest buzzword - "sandbox". Wouldn't it be better, if they cared just a bit about computer security and designed their plugins/activeX without those tricks in the first place? But I guess that's just a rhetorical question at this point. It's Adobe/Macromedia we're dealing with...
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Dustyn
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reply to kickass69

Thank you!
Gonna grab it now.

wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

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reply to kickass69

stupid question on using the installers from »www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···n3.html: do these installers include both the 32 and 64 bit versions of Flash Player?



sbconslt

join:2009-07-28
Los Angeles, CA

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Yes, there is only one installer, packing both 32 and 64 bit.



siljaline
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said by sbconslt:

Yes, there is only one installer, packing both 32 and 64 bit.

quote:
Note: Beginning with 11.3, the universal 32-bit installer will include the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the Flash Player.

Libra
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reply to kickass69

Thank you for advising us of this update and the links.

Also, thanks to siljaline See Profile for recommending I install over the top. I did on 3 computers and it all went well.

Sincerely, Libra



kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

No problem, I made it a habit a long time ago back in the Windows 3.11/95 days to completely uninstall and install fresh new versions of programs. Seems like even today that mantra holds up alot of times.


redwolfe_98
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edited..

somehow i got my wires crossed, thinking that this thread was about "firefox", not "flash player"..



siljaline
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Your welcome for the commenting, Libra See Profile I missed you in the mélé



antdude
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said by siljaline:

Your welcome for the commenting, Libra See Profile I missed you in the mélé

You're.


rcdailey
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I had some real problems with the 11.x series on my system and had gone back to 10 to get videos to play reasonably. However, I bit the bullet and installed this latest version and they have obviously changed something that lets my system play videos correctly. Whatever was "fixed," I hope it stays that way with the next update.
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siljaline
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It's all the Français I speak, there will be some leakage, antdude See Profile



Name Game
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reply to redwolfe_98

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said by redwolfe_98:

edited..

somehow i got my wires crossed, thinking that this thread was about "firefox", not "flash player"..

Easy to get confused since firefox has had it's share of flashplayer crashes and hicups. and so many people run more different versions of firefox than ever before.

»Re: WTF!!! Adobe Flash installing unwanted programs
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Name Game
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said by siljaline:

It's all the Français I speak, there will be some leakage, antdude See Profile

In Vermont..that will cost you

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siljaline
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Re: Adobe Flash Player 11.4.402.265/10.3.183.23

Us Québécois are a prime source of tourist dollars and more in New England, in general.

Vermonsters love us



Name Game
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And so does Myrtle Beach..thanks to all you that come down for the summer and keep us company



Name Game
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said by antdude:

said by siljaline:

Your welcome for the commenting, Libra See Profile I missed you in the mélé

You're.

Yo


siljaline
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Ah the Schnée Birds Bit too old an unilingual crowd for my tastes. Plus, I don't have a banger for the Carolinas.