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Jack_in_VA
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reply to PrntRhd

Re: Stihl power equipment and ethanol "enhanced" gas

said by PrntRhd:

No, it is this years drought cutting back on projected corn supplies which means no surplus corn to make ethanol for gas without driving food supply costs up before an election.
Congress critters do understand they are in the line of fire if that occurs.

So much for upping the ethanol to 15% like some proposed.

So far the EPA (Obama administration) has refused to lower the mandate for 10 percent not wanting to anger the corn farmers who could care less about driving up the food prices. It benefits them and that's all they care about.


mityfowl
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Dallas, TX

said by Jack_in_VA:

said by PrntRhd:

No, it is this years drought cutting back on projected corn supplies which means no surplus corn to make ethanol for gas without driving food supply costs up before an election.
Congress critters do understand they are in the line of fire if that occurs.

So much for upping the ethanol to 15% like some proposed.

So far the EPA (Obama administration) has refused to lower the mandate for 10 percent not wanting to anger the corn farmers who could care less about driving up the food prices. It benefits them and that's all they care about.

Its more complected now than this statement


toby
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join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA
reply to Jack_in_VA

What mandate is there for any ethanol in gasoline? Or is this just a bash the president thing?

I buy ethanol free gasoline here in WA, better for the cars and garden equipment, hardly costs anything more than regular. Get a few more mpg too.



mityfowl
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said by toby:

What mandate is there for any ethanol in gasoline? Or is this just a bash the president thing?

I buy ethanol free gasoline here in WA, better for the cars and garden equipment, hardly costs anything more than regular. Get a few more mpg too.

Probably if you really want to know something about anything try google.

PrntRhd
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Actually the next layer of inertia on ethanol use is the Renewable Fuels Act.
»www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/···20120824
»www.rbnenergy.com/a-market-of-co···end-wall

So 30% of the country requires oxygenate fuel and then the RFA requires renewable fuel to boot.



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to toby

said by toby:

What mandate is there for any ethanol in gasoline?

»www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/renewable···ndex.htm

iknow
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said by fifty nine:

said by toby:

What mandate is there for any ethanol in gasoline?

»www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/renewable···ndex.htm

"•EISA increased the volume of renewable fuel required to be blended into transportation fuel from 9 billion gallons in 2008 to 36 billion gallons by 2022;" wow, there goes decently priced food!. there's a shortage of feedstock already, most of it is used to make ethanol!!. a large portion of our food is sold to other countries, they'll need to stop that.


mityfowl
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reply to Jack_in_VA

You can only wish that sanity will prevail in in Washington.



fifty nine

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reply to iknow

said by iknow:

said by fifty nine:

said by toby:

What mandate is there for any ethanol in gasoline?

»www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/renewable···ndex.htm

"•EISA increased the volume of renewable fuel required to be blended into transportation fuel from 9 billion gallons in 2008 to 36 billion gallons by 2022;" wow, there goes decently priced food!. there's a shortage of feedstock already, most of it is used to make ethanol!!. a large portion of our food is sold to other countries, they'll need to stop that.

Ethanol biofuel (and HFCS via tariffs on sugar) is nothing more than a handout to corporate corn farmers.


Jack_in_VA
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said by fifty nine:

Ethanol biofuel (and HFCS via tariffs on sugar) is nothing more than a handout to corporate corn farmers.

That's is absolutely the reason with the added "buying of votes".

scross

join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN
reply to Jack_in_VA

OK, folks, this whole "ethanol vs. food" thing is (mostly) a red herring! The fact is that MOST of the pricing issues that you see today are due to rampant profiteering being done by the commodities traders. I will spare you the details, but if you do a little digging this has all been documented nicely out on the internet.

This coming from someone (me) who used to work for a commodities trading firm (grain, cotton, etc.) Back in the day they had to be subtle about this, so that things didn't get out of hand and become too obvious, but I still know of people (bigwigs in the commodities world) who ended up going to jail for it. These days the laws have been rewritten in their favor such that none of it is really illegal, so of course they are making the most of it!