 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Jack_in_VA
Re: Stihl power equipment and ethanol "enhanced" gas Problem will only get worse as the Farm Lobby has pushed the adoption of 15% ethanol gasoline.
10% isn't too bad but 15% and up will start causing a ton of issues for engine systems not specifically designed for it.
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Jack_in_VA
said by Jack_in_VA:The farmers petitioned the government to drop the ethanol percentage in gas to ease the price of feed. The Obama administration flatly refused. (so far)
Fix: SOME farmers are proposing this, largely the ones raising livestock. The Industrial Farm Lobby (Think ADM, etc) are all for Ethanol and high corn prices. The proposal has not been acted on by the Administration, and faces stiff opposition from powerful members of Congress.
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 JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium
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Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | reply to KrK
Somewhat unrelated, but the last paragraph tells a bit of the story. »autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/···064.html
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Gasoline recalls are rare but not without precedent; last year a Minnesota refinery had to halt sales of 11,000 gallons after it mixed more than 10 percent ethanol into the fuel.
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Ethanol can be made from sugarcane which grows like a weed. |
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join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to MrIcehouse
said by MrIcehouse:It costs more but I buy gas from the marina it is 100% gas no Ethanol.
I've been doing some googling and it appears that non-ethanol is only 10 or 15 cents per gallon more here. |
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Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to Juggernaut
said by Juggernaut:Somewhat unrelated, but the last paragraph tells a bit of the story. »autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/···064.html
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Gasoline recalls are rare but not without precedent; last year a Minnesota refinery had to halt sales of 11,000 gallons after it mixed more than 10 percent ethanol into the fuel.
Last summer that happened twice in Hampton Roads causing a bunch of problems. The distributor never said anything until the problems surfaced. |
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JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium
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Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | reply to Jack_in_VA
Your engines will love you for it. Try it in your truck. One tank will make you a believer. |
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I put it in my car and lawnmower and it's no big hit on price, saves me on repair bills for the mower and better gas mileage for the car. |
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said by Critsmcgee:There is no ethanol free gas in the entire state here. Ethanol is mandated to be in the gas by state law.
Look for marine or aviation gas. I think they're much more likely to be ethanol free, but they'll be more costly. However, price shouldn't matter much when it's used in small engines, and when one factors in repair costs, it may be a great bargain. 
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JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium
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Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | I'd stay away from the av gas, and use marine if you can't find pure gas at a local station.
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said by Jack_in_VA:Is that at the station you use? It's not universal in Iowa according to the site Spark Chaser posted.
Every station I've been to in Iowa for decades. |
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Sunoco advertises and sells an ethanol free blend of gas at some stations here, haven't bought it but I might.
Ethanol is a pretty bad deal for everybody other than the corn farmers IMHO. |
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Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | And mechanics, and gas companies. |
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Not a fan of ethanol, but there is one absolute rule with it - don't store equipment with ethanol gas in it. As previously mentioned, ethanol will absorb water. I don't think even Stabil can fix that. Could be wrong.
I'd also advocate for using the correct octane of 89 as suggested by Stihl's engineers and indicated on the labeling of the Stihl 2 stroke oil bottles, but we had that discussion already in May, and at the time you insisted upon using 87 as opposed to the indicated 89 octane in your Stihl equipment.
To each his own... |
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Happy Camp
kudos:5 | reply to Juggernaut
said by Juggernaut:And mechanics, and gas companies.
And bartenders...  |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | reply to Critsmcgee
Is ethanol free the same as race fuel? I used to see that at a station in Worcester Ma. |
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another resource for pure gas is local airports. I go to the Hanover Country (Virginia) airport here outside Richmond to buy gas for my lawnmower. |
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said by Jack_in_VA:The bloweer is about 5 years old and the trimmer around 3. Never had any problems until now. Thanks. I'd say that was pretty old, in "lawn tool" years anyway!
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Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to PaCK Fan
said by PaCK Fan:another resource for pure gas is local airports. I go to the Hanover Country (Virginia) airport here outside Richmond to buy gas for my lawnmower.
I'm originally from Chesterfield and I image the Chesterfield County Airport would also have it. The closest airport to me now would be in Newport News or the small one in West Point. I have a Marina that is listed in the link of sources that is between me and the Stihl dealer. I'll just stop and get some there. My quick stop should not be that much longer. The tanks are in and he was doing some wiring for the pump yesterday. |
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race fuel means a lot of things. really depends on the spec is was formulated to. sunoco down here has a few stations selling 100 octane no-lead, last i called it was nealry $10/gal which is honestly a bit spendy even for race gas. last time i bought at the track the AMA spec fuel was a little under $9/gal and i believe it is 98 octane.
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