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reply to Grumpy

Re: Stihl power equipment and ethanol "enhanced" gas

reply to Jack_in_VA
This whole ethanol thing just pisses me off.

What in the hell was the govt. thinking when they enacted this law anyway?
I think the govt. should be held liable for the damage it does to cars, mowers, tolls, etc. (course that will never happen)

I know of a pilot that used to buy gas at a local station out here for his small piper plane. Said it was cheaper than at the small airport out here.
Ended up the station had ethanol in their gas (and it wasn't posted), and in a short time of half a summer ruined his plane, gaskets, and other items that I cant remember what he called them.

This has even made me wonder about the gas in the tanks underground. Most tanks that I am aware of cant pump out any gas when the tank gets to about 6 inches of product left in it. (that can be up to several hundred gallons)
Then comes along the delivery person and unloads gas into the almost empty tank. Which in turn mixes up all this bad water infested gas through out the tank...and into your car eventually.

They need to get rid of ethanol in our gas. Its a freaking joke!
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well if the gas station is properly equipped and maintained a fuel drop even on an empty in ground tank shouldn't effect customers. due to the fact that if properly equipped the station will have a filter/water separator at each dispenser and said filters will be changed on a regular basis thus preventing water/sediment from being passed into the customers tank.
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Sounds good enough for me I suppose. The station I am talking about has been in this county for at least 40 years, and still have the old analog pumps. Hope they do have their stuff up to date and maintained.
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reply to Robotics

reply to Robotics
on the older pumps i've seen the filter/separator on the side of the pump but not always. if i see the filter is old rusty etc i generally go somewhere else if i can. you can always ask to see what they do and or dont do. i'd be curious to know.
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I frequent the station often (cheapest price around usually) and they do not have the filters on the sides. Ive seen them before so I know what you are talking about.
I just may question them next time I am there.

Thanks
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reply to Robotics

I thought aviation fuel is different. But he definitely used regular gas for his (I think its called) piper plane.

reply to Jack_in_VA
Having worked at a Gas Station back in 96-98, You don't want to ever pump gas if you see a truck there unloading. It does stir up everything in the tank and makes far dirtier gas. Don't trust filters on pumps to be replaced regularly.

reply to Jack_in_VA

reply to Jack_in_VA
I saw this coming.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_ethanol

They added ethanol (which would increase feed, grain and food costs over time, let alone the energy, resources that necessary to farm and process the ethanol) from Farming (co-ops and corporate-owned farms...sic ADM, Monsanto,...) to trick the consumer into thinking it is cleaner and better.

"let's add this to fuel, boost farm subsidies, burns faster thus selling more fuel and forces new car sales, fools the 'merican people that think its greener/cleaner and heck, makes (everyone but taxpayer) a whole lotta money!"

But the cost is the factor: you will burn ethanol-additive fuels faster than non-additive. And you pay more over time (mileage drops a few, yet you are paying more at pump). But I would rather have ethanol in fuel than MTBE.

Now missing from the wiki, the harm in older engines and smaller engines. Works fine in E85 motors and newer cars (better rings, seals, ...). Lawn care and motor-boating are victims.

Throw in mother nature's humor (drought) and you have unstable food price increases, transportation issues (see Mississippi River), and global food shortages. Ofcourse, in the name of "selling rope to hang others", food corps will gladly export corn to other countries for profit, rather than logistically selling it local for buffeting shock to inflation and recessive markets.

Greed is an amazing b-tch.
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reply to Jack_in_VA
Yeah, Ethanol killed my blower and trimmer.

I am now all battery powered and love it.

No as powerful but they do the job and it is more fun.

Dave
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reply to Critsmcgee

Looks like 17 in Maryland, all seem to be on the Eastern Shore
»pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=MD

216 in Virginia
»pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=VA
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And none in the DC metro area...

reply to Rxdoxx
I had no idea how difficult it is in some areas to get ethanol free gas. I have 5 or 6 stations that offer it within 6 miles of me. I live in a lake resort town, so I guess the demand for it is here due to all the boaters. Most is 93 octane. I haven't used anything but in any of my lawn equipment. Guess I'm lucky!

reply to Jack_in_VA
I looked today and Sunoco is selling Ethanol Free 90 Octane at a few stations around here.