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ebgbjo
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reply to Alpha Phoenix

Re: Wii U

I tried it. Not doing much yet on my end. Every show I try gets the "this show doesn't use tvii tag" message. I can use my remote for tv to search for shows on my tv or DVR and without subscription service to streaming like Amazon, Hulu or Netflix, so far Tvii is useless


Alpha Phoenix
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Brooklyn, NY

said by ebgbjo:

I tried it. Not doing much yet on my end. Every show I try gets the "this show doesn't use tvii tag" message. I can use my remote for tv to search for shows on my tv or DVR and without subscription service to streaming like Amazon, Hulu or Netflix, so far Tvii is useless

Looks like the functionality just needs to be brought up to where they are shooting for. As of now it seems they haven't gotten fully up and running fluidly yet. But the sports feature from the video seems pretty cool if you're into that kind of thing.

But I'm with you so far.
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BF69
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reply to Alpha Phoenix
So far since the WiiU debuted the XBOX 360 and PS3 are still outselling it. What's going to happen to WiiU sales next year at this time when the "PS4" and "XBOX 720" come out?



danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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That'll be dependent on the pricepoint of those consoles, and the selection of games they'll have at launch vs. what the Wii U will have. Personally, my daughter and I are really enjoying hers.
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Alpha Phoenix
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reply to BF69
The Wii U currently doesn't have a great selection of games. But then again what consoles really have great launch titles? As developers push the premier titles out, that's when you're really going to see what the real demand for the Wii U will be, but as it is, it's only been out about a month now.
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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo



captokita
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

So far since the WiiU debuted the XBOX 360 and PS3 are still outselling it. What's going to happen to WiiU sales next year at this time when the "PS4" and "XBOX 720" come out?

Established bases at reduced prices ALWAYS outsell the new stuff. Guess what, when PS4 & 720 come out, 360 & PS3 will outsell them too, so what will you say then? Nintendo's sales will also see a spike at that time over the newcomers as well, as they will likely hold the cheapest pricepoint.

Oh wait, you're just hating on Nintendo like usual. Carry on......


danawhitaker
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I'd be curious what percentage of those Xbox and PS3 sales are people replacing 1st and 2nd gen consoles too, rather than brand new purchasers.
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silbaco

join:2009-08-03
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reply to captokita

said by captokita:

said by BF69:

So far since the WiiU debuted the XBOX 360 and PS3 are still outselling it. What's going to happen to WiiU sales next year at this time when the "PS4" and "XBOX 720" come out?

Established bases at reduced prices ALWAYS outsell the new stuff. Guess what, when PS4 & 720 come out, 360 & PS3 will outsell them too, so what will you say then? Nintendo's sales will also see a spike at that time over the newcomers as well, as they will likely hold the cheapest pricepoint.

Oh wait, you're just hating on Nintendo like usual. Carry on......

Established systems outsell versus a new console's very first holiday season? No, they typically don't. The Wii U was supposed to be a hot holiday item and it simply wasn't. It did not live up to the sales expectations.


MuDvAyNe
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reply to Alpha Phoenix
I will pick up a Wii U once it has a bigger harddrive and a price drop... or if Super Mario Galaxy 3 is released
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danawhitaker
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Urbandale, IA

reply to silbaco
Out of curiosity, is the whole 360 and PS3 outselling the Wii U thing still being based off of Black Friday sales? If so, that's really not a fair comparison. Many retailers had discounted bundles for those consoles, whereas the Wii U had no deals at all except for simply existing (as should be expected, since it's a brand new console). I saw ridiculously cheap bundles on Amazon for the PS3, almost tempting enough to make me buy one. Several of my friends with Xbox 360s that were on the way out the door due to age/problems also used it as an opportunity to replace their existing consoles. The other flaw I saw with some of the sales comparisons was that in some cases they were comparing the full month of November for Xbox and PS3 to half a month for the Wii U (since it didn't launch until the 18th).

"In a span of four weeks of being on the market, Nintendo has sold over 1.8 million Wii U consoles. In that same amount of time, Microsoft sold 940,000 Xbox 360 consoles, and Sony shipped 540,000 PlayStation 3 consoles." (that's referring to launch, not a holiday sales comparison)

»gengame.net/2012/12/wii-u-off-to···-launch/

I haven't seen any full sales data for the holiday season past the Black Friday stuff, and I'll be interested to. But the Wii U isn't performing nearly as dismally as some people here would like to make it out to be. I for one was glad that I was able to readily attain one online without it being in some stupid overpriced bundle like the 360 launch and PS3 launch were notorious for. Some people think that not being able to find a console on store shelves is some kind of badge of honor for the company selling it. I think it indicates that the company prepared poorly for the launch in the first place. Nintendo has been guilty of this in the past too. I think the Wii U had just the right amount of difficulty. It wasn't a guaranteed deal in stores, but it wasn't outright impossible to the point people be beating each other senseless to get one either.
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hitachi369
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All I can say is I was at more than one store prior to Christmas and they had units on the shelf. For debut years for either the ps3 or 360 I cant say the same.



Alpha Phoenix
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said by hitachi369:

All I can say is I was at more than one store prior to Christmas and they had units on the shelf. For debut years for either the ps3 or 360 I cant say the same.

Which ones? The Basic (White),or the Deluxe (Black)?
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BF69
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Camden, TN

reply to danawhitaker

said by danawhitaker:

"In a span of four weeks of being on the market, Nintendo has sold over 1.8 million Wii U consoles. In that same amount of time, Microsoft sold 940,000 Xbox 360 consoles, and Sony shipped 540,000 PlayStation 3 consoles." (that's referring to launch, not a holiday sales comparison)

»gengame.net/2012/12/wii-u-off-to···-launch/

Your data is off

WiiU Nov 24th-Dec 15th 1.817 million
PS3 Nov 25th-Dec 15th 1.797 million
360 Nov 25th-Dec 15th 1.865 million

of course the PS3 and 360 numbers aren't counting sales on the 24th like the WiiU.


danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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Urbandale, IA

said by BF69:

said by danawhitaker:

"In a span of four weeks of being on the market, Nintendo has sold over 1.8 million Wii U consoles. In that same amount of time, Microsoft sold 940,000 Xbox 360 consoles, and Sony shipped 540,000 PlayStation 3 consoles." (that's referring to launch, not a holiday sales comparison)

»gengame.net/2012/12/wii-u-off-to···-launch/

Your data is off

WiiU Nov 24th-Dec 15th 1.817 million
PS3 Nov 25th-Dec 15th 1.797 million
360 Nov 25th-Dec 15th 1.865 million

of course the PS3 and 360 numbers aren't counting sales on the 24th like the WiiU.

My data is for each of those console's launch windows, not this holiday season. I guess I didn't make that as clear as I meant to. Ergo, the number I linked was 940,000 Xbox 360 consoles in its first 4 weeks in 2005, and 540,000 PS3s whenever that launched. The Wii U sold more units in its 4 week launch window than the 360 or PS3 sold in their respective launch windows. Sony actually ended up only selling about half the number of PS3s they expected to within the first 4-5 months after launch, according to some articles I read.

Can you quote me the source on your numbers for the PS3 and 360 sales from November 25th to December 15th? I'm not doubting them, I just had trouble stumbling across them earlier when I was looking up information.

Something interesting I found was that in 2005, after the 360 launch, PS2 sales increased 48% in December 2005 compared to December 2004. So such trends aren't necessarily completely out of whack.
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sleuth
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join:2001-08-30
West Des Moines, IA

reply to Alpha Phoenix

said by Alpha Phoenix:

said by sleuth:

Does Nintedo TV only stream Amazon and huluplus? Or do I just need to download other apps?

Also, has the riddle for switching to streaming content been solved yet for sports fans? Not sure if a subscription based site offering live sports streams even exists.

Netflix, Amazon Plus, Hulu Plus, YouTube, Live TV, Movies, and plenty of other options, etc...

Here, check out this video demoing that feature:
»youtu.be/RnY-wpMbIv0

Thanks. I FINALLY watched the video. So Nintendo TV still just circulates around the main services of Netflix, Amazon and Hulu Plus - which are the 3 I would subscribe too anyway. Not sure of any other mainstream streaming sites anyway for TV and movies.

Still curious if there's a site that offers sports streams outside of NFL Sunday Ticket, NBA TV, etc. I would love to be able to watch other games that are not locally broadcast. I'm sure there's some copyright issues with this, but maybe someone will pleasantly surprise me.


bionicRod
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So for those of you that have one and find it useful...do you like the Nintendo Tvii? I'm almost to the point of pulling the trigger. This will go in the bedroom and will be mostly for my better half's benefit with Nintendo Tvii. We do have a dvr and subscribe to Netflix and Amazon Prime. I'm sure I will grab the Mario title to start off. Worth it?



Metatron2008
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Its basically like a limited logitech harmony. It can turn on and off your tv, allow you to switch inputs, change channels on the tv, etc. You can use cable and satellite boxes (Works on my directv h24), and the mario game can be played on the gamepad. I've played the mario game while watching tv.

It's useful, but a logitech harmony is more useful. Will need to be a nintendo fan.

Oh, the netflix app is the best. It actually shows what shows and movies are in HD!



danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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Urbandale, IA

reply to bionicRod

said by bionicRod:

So for those of you that have one and find it useful...do you like the Nintendo Tvii? I'm almost to the point of pulling the trigger. This will go in the bedroom and will be mostly for my better half's benefit with Nintendo Tvii. We do have a dvr and subscribe to Netflix and Amazon Prime. I'm sure I will grab the Mario title to start off. Worth it?

I don't find the Tivii aspect terribly compelling. I was excited when I was first setting it up, but the interface seemed less than impressive. My cable company also had poor options for the channel stuff - neither one was accurate for my channel lineup where I live. I was able to save a bunch of my favorite shows, but the interface for that wasn't too great either. I can't even find a list of just my favorites and their airtimes, which is the sort of thing I was hoping for. I'm hoping as time goes on they'll flesh the feature out, but I definitely wouldn't include it was an aspect of the system that would be the tipping point to convince me to buy it, at least not right now.

It did find my TV and cable box pretty quickly, so I'll give it a few points in that regard.
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bionicRod
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Thanks to you both for the responses, I appreciate it. She has seen that vid posted upthread and wants one, but now I'm not so sure. I hadn't heard of the Logitech Harmony before Metatron, thanks for the heads up.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to Alpha Phoenix
The Wii U had an estimated sales of between 50-60k for January. That is beyond horrible for a new console. Maybe the dinosaur (Nintendo) will get the hint and just exit the console business already. Yes, I said it.

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