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Alpha Phoenix
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Re: Wii U

Wow!!!

»www.computerandvideogames.com/36···evision/

»www.joystiq.com/2012/09/13/ninte···-and-di/

»www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/nint···r-wii-u/

»www.slashgear.com/nintendo-tvii-···3247469/

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=08O0G9CjcI8

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bionicRod
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Pretty cool tv functionality. I wonder if that will work with a telco, satellite or cable dvr? I haven't had a tivo for years.

I don't watch a lot of tv but if my better half sees that we'll be getting one.



Metatron2008
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What I wanna know is if that wii u tablet thing will have multi touch functionality and be ips...



Alpha Phoenix
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said by bionicRod:

Pretty cool tv functionality. I wonder if that will work with a telco, satellite or cable dvr? I haven't had a tivo for years.

I don't watch a lot of tv but if my better half sees that we'll be getting one.

I believe the articles I posted pretty much answer your questions.
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bionicRod
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said by Alpha Phoenix:

said by bionicRod:

Pretty cool tv functionality. I wonder if that will work with a telco, satellite or cable dvr? I haven't had a tivo for years.

I don't watch a lot of tv but if my better half sees that we'll be getting one.

I believe the articles I posted pretty much answer your questions.

Yeah, well I'm at work and they're websensed.


captokita
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reply to Alpha Phoenix

Wow! That's really pretty neat. Though a demo such as this needs to be taken at face value, the IDEA is sweet, make your wii-u the center of your entertainment system, but let's see how it plays out. I don't have a tivo, but I DO have a DVR. Built in Harmony-like features for the Wii-u-mote would be pretty sweet.

This brings me back to what I said before about Nintendo being innovative, and not so much caring about pure graphics. This adds a whole new depth to the remote on it, and if what they're looking at here comes to fruition, then Nintendo could do really well with this system.



Alpha Phoenix
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said by bionicRod:

said by Alpha Phoenix:

said by bionicRod:

Pretty cool tv functionality. I wonder if that will work with a telco, satellite or cable dvr? I haven't had a tivo for years.

I don't watch a lot of tv but if my better half sees that we'll be getting one.

I believe the articles I posted pretty much answer your questions.

Yeah, well I'm at work and they're websensed.

Then do what I do. Check them on your smartphone.

Because I like you, I'll copy and paste the main snippets for you.

said by »www.joystiq.com/2012/09/13/ninte···-and-di/ :

Nintendo TVii supported by 'all' major US, Canadian cable and dish companies

Nintendo's director of strategic partnerships, Zach Fountain, has said Nintendo TVii will support "all" cable and dish carriers in the US and Canada. Speaking with Engadget, the executive said the only requirement for signing up is entering your cable or dish provider account information into the Wii U.

DVR and TiVO functionality will work in a similar manner, with subscribers inputting information via web, with functionality then accessible through Wii U.

said by »www.computerandvideogames.com/36···evision/ :

Users can access Netflix, Hulu Plus and Amazon TV streams, as well as live TV, and even access their Tivo player.

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I can't always get away with looking at my smart phone, but this page is just an alt tab away on my work pc! Anyway thanks for posting! That is awesome news and is a compelling reason to consider getting a WiiU. Good move by Nintendo.



Mittvok
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What's with all the Wii hate in here? The Wii was a fun system. I'd much rather trade in a bit of graphics for fun. I find Wii bowling more fun than playing CoD for hours on end.



Alpha Phoenix
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said by Mittvok:

What's with all the Wii hate in here?

I was wondering the same thing.


Silvanos
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said by Mittvok:

What's with all the Wii hate in here? The Wii was a fun system.

The graphics were terrible and it was filled with shovel ware... the Mario games (most of Nintendos first party games) were fun and yes Wii bowling was a blast but almost everything else was crap.

My kids want this so I'll get it for them for Christmas, the new Mario looks great.
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Metatron2008
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said by Mittvok:

What's with all the Wii hate in here? The Wii was a fun system. I'd much rather trade in a bit of graphics for fun. I find Wii bowling more fun than playing CoD for hours on end.

it was a fun system for all 5 (Give or take) original games that were fun out of the thousand or so crap games.

And of course, all of the games Nintendo made over the years released online..


Alpha Phoenix
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Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and Metroid: Other M had some of the best graphics ever! Goes to show that it wasn't the system, but the game developers that never bothered to really push the system the way it really could've been pushed.
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Jackarino
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Interesting



Metatron2008
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said by Alpha Phoenix:

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and Metroid: Other M had some of the best graphics ever! Goes to show that it wasn't the system, but the game developers that never bothered to really push the system the way it really could've been pushed.

Best graphics ever LOL?


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said by Metatron2008:

said by Alpha Phoenix:

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, and Metroid: Other M had some of the best graphics ever! Goes to show that it wasn't the system, but the game developers that never bothered to really push the system the way it really could've been pushed.

Best graphics ever LOL?

For the Wii, yes. And overall, the graphics on Metroid : Other M were crisp as hell. If you haven't played it, then don't thumb your nose at it in ignorance. If you have played it, then you should already know.
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bionicRod
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Here is a direct comparison of Wii graphics vs. other modern platforms:




Can't argue with science, bro.


Metatron2008
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lol



sleuth
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Nintendo TVii looks pretty sweet. I was planning on buying the system anyway, of all people my wife wants it for Christmas, and this is just icing on the cake. I don't watch much TV nowadays and the Mrs. records all her TV shows. So the sensible decision would be to cut the cord and subscribe to streaming. Wonder how badly this is going to bug me through football season though.


JBear

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Wii U is going to sell like hotcakes because
a) it will be riding on the Wii's reputation and coat tails (I mean that in a good way)
b) Who really is going to buy an end of the line PS3 which is still at the same price of it's launch? And the 720 and PS4 will probably launch on Xmas 2013 so Nintendo will have a year just to themselves (which happened last generation). Some people will just need to 'upgrade' their current Wii.

But in saying that I am in no rush for another console right now and am interested in what Microsoft is going to do with their Kinect for the 720. I was thinking of buying a 360 with Kinect but money and my current satisfaction with what my PS3 does right now (mainly blu-ray, streaming, and Netflix) I couldn't justify buying it.


silbaco
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In the end it will all depend on the developers. Despite strong Wii console sales, the software sales have been consistently weaker than the other consoles with the exception of 1st party (Nintendo) games. The games will make or break the Wii U. Nintendo has historically not done a good job of being pro-developers. Along with the closure of Nintendo Power, I would imagine Wii U game sales are going to be weak.



88615298
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said by JBear:

b) Who really is going to buy an end of the line PS3 which is still at the same price of it's launch? And the 720 and PS4 will probably launch on Xmas 2013 so Nintendo will have a year just to themselves (which happened last generation). Some people will just need to 'upgrade' their current Wii.

end of the line? PS3 will have a 10 year life cycle so that will end in 2016. The last PS2 game just got released this year. That came out 11 years ago.

One of the main reasons the Wii sold do well was because it was cheaper than the rest. The WiiU does not have that advantage.

And I'd buy a PS3 over a WiiU. The $300 version has what 8 GB of storage? So how much is extra storage going to cost. The PS3 has 500 GB. Have fun taking turns on the Wii since it comes with one controller and they are not selling extras er in the US. In Japan yes and they cost over $150.


Silvanos
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I'm no fan of the Wii but they already said the Wiimotes will work on the WiiU so it won't be a single player.
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The WiiU will have an SDHC slot; not sure if it supports SDXC yet, but the system has yet to come out... and it could be like the Wii that initially didn't support SDHC cards, but was able to after the 4.0 System Menu update.

Launch games for the WiiU would only support one touch-screen controller anyway... though it has been stated that they intend on bringing support for at least two per system down the line. And as Silvanos See Profile pointed out, the WiiU will natively support existing Wii remotes, et al, as it's directly BC with the standard Wii.

Further, unlike the current difference between standard and modified Wii's, the WiiU will natively support external storage this time... I think Nintendo learned its lesson form the hacking community on that one. lol
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silbaco
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Nintento is actually going to have to try to meet demand this time around. The Wii had shortages for months. Since the console was highly anticipated, that was fine. The WiiU does not have near as much steam. If Nintendo wants a great holiday season, they better not let people down by not making enough. Most people have a 360 or PS3 already. If parents can't get a hold of a WiiU, my guess is most won't hesitate to buy some PS3 or 360 games instead of the WiiU.

said by Silvanos:

I'm no fan of the Wii but they already said the Wiimotes will work on the WiiU so it won't be a single player.

True, but not all games will support the wiimote. Many will require the new controller.


danawhitaker
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said by 88615298:

said by JBear:

b) Who really is going to buy an end of the line PS3 which is still at the same price of it's launch? And the 720 and PS4 will probably launch on Xmas 2013 so Nintendo will have a year just to themselves (which happened last generation). Some people will just need to 'upgrade' their current Wii.

end of the line? PS3 will have a 10 year life cycle so that will end in 2016. The last PS2 game just got released this year. That came out 11 years ago.

One of the main reasons the Wii sold do well was because it was cheaper than the rest. The WiiU does not have that advantage.

And I'd buy a PS3 over a WiiU. The $300 version has what 8 GB of storage? So how much is extra storage going to cost. The PS3 has 500 GB. Have fun taking turns on the Wii since it comes with one controller and they are not selling extras er in the US. In Japan yes and they cost over $150.

The new PS3 model that's going to be released is only going to have 12gb. With just game saves on my 360, I don't even come close to using half the 20gb capacity my console came with. I actually need to clean up the hard drive because I downloaded a lot of demos a few years ago I never bothered to actually play and played around with that feature where you can install games to the hard drive. Since you have to have the disc in the drive anyway, and the only reason I'd do that is for the convenience of not having to have the disc in my vicinity, the novelty of doing that wore off fairly quickly.

There are those of us out there who aren't into the whole downloading games thing. We prefer to buy our games at the store, on some kind of disc. All we need is space for game saves, and I suspect 8gb is going to be more than enough to handle that.

As for the controller thing, it's ultimately too difficult to speculate right now on exactly how that will play out, because that's going to depend on the controller requirements of the games the system launches with. And as others have stated, existing Wiimotes will work. I never got the impression with this system that the idea was to have everyone using the touchscreen controllers for playing. Maybe I'm wrong. The non-touchscreen controller that's not going to be available right away is very similar to the Xbox 360. I admit, I wish they were including one of those. Controller prices for all the consoles are steep these days.
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Goggalor
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said by danawhitaker:

The new PS3 model that's going to be released is only going to have 12gb. With just game saves on my 360, I don't even come close to using half the 20gb capacity my console came with. I actually need to clean up the hard drive because I downloaded a lot of demos a few years ago I never bothered to actually play and played around with that feature where you can install games to the hard drive. Since you have to have the disc in the drive anyway, and the only reason I'd do that is for the convenience of not having to have the disc in my vicinity, the novelty of doing that wore off fairly quickly.

The benefit of installing on the 360 is that games actually do load faster and the system is actually quieter as it not trying to pull all of the data straight from the disc.
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C0deZer0
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said by danawhitaker:

The new PS3 model that's going to be released is only going to have 12gb. With just game saves on my 360, I don't even come close to using half the 20gb capacity my console came with. I actually need to clean up the hard drive because I downloaded a lot of demos a few years ago I never bothered to actually play and played around with that feature where you can install games to the hard drive. Since you have to have the disc in the drive anyway, and the only reason I'd do that is for the convenience of not having to have the disc in my vicinity, the novelty of doing that wore off fairly quickly.

Here in the U.S., the super slim PS3 started at 250GB and 500GB models. Overseas in the EU and other regions, the 'starter' super slim PS3 is a 12GB model. And word has it from the patent that this edition would need an additional adapter to install more space.

This is a huge problem with the PS3 in particular, since many games on disc practically require some amount of internal storage for game data or mandatory installs. And even those that offer it optionally would need it anyway just to have load time parity if the game were also available on the Xbox 360. Case in point: Street Fighter IV on both systems...

On PS3:
•Average load time purely off the BluRay: 20 seconds per match.
•With Optional Install: 8 seconds

Part of you is thinking "awesome", right? Well...

On Xbox 360:
•Load time purely off the DVD: 8 seconds
•With the post-NXE install option: 3 seconds

When you play online without that optional install, people will hate you for it.
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worn_out

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In addition to the above mentioned points, installing games reduces wear and tear on the dvd drive. We're on our 5th, probably soon to be 6th, 360. The dvd drive failed in all four prior 360s that we had. Of course, then again, the disc tray also decides to just quit opening right about the time the drive starts to go south

As much as I want the WiiU to succeed, I feel that the WiiU will be the GameCube all over again. Not to say that the 'Cube was bad, it was just too little, too late. Most Wii users that wanted something beefier most likely purchased a 360/PS3, instead of waiting for a more powerful Wii. Even now, and at the WiiU launch, the 360/PS3 will still be a better choice, as those are established, mature platforms.

I speculate that if the WiiU fails, Nintendo will have to rely on the already established Wii and handheld markets. But now the handheld market has more competition than it did during the N64/GameCube eras, and the Wii will eventually wind down. If tablets and smartphones somehow rub out dedicated handhelds, and the WiiU does fail, Nintendo could possibly be the next Sega.



bionicRod
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IDK...I still think the year to itself as the next 'next gen' console will spur sales all by itself. People that have a 360, PS3 and Wii are ready for something different. This is the only game in town. That's not a bad place to be.