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Monthly Data Allowance is the sum of the Anytime and Bonus Bytes.
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| What is the difference between Data Allowance (anytime) and Bonus Bytes?
With HughesNet Gen4 your total monthly Data Allowance includes two components: 1) A generous anytime Data Allowance that can be utilized at any time, including during peak daytime hours. The amount of your "anytime" allowance depends on the plan you choose. The Power plan comes with 10GB, the Power PRO plan comes with 15GB, and the Power MAX plan comes with 20GB. 2) Each HughesNet Gen4 plan also comes with an equivalent amount of extra Data Allowance called Bonus Byte, which can be utilized during the off-peak, nighttime hours (2AM-8AM in your local time zone.) Bonus Bytes are a value-added feature you can get only with HughesNet Gen4. With Bonus Bytes and the Download Manager tool offered with HughesNet, you can schedule large downloads such as Microsoft software updates to take place during the night so they only use Bonus Bytes and have no impact on your "anytime" Data Allowance. Bonus Bytes are another way HughesNet Gen4 lets you do more than any other satellite Internet service.
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| reply to DrStrangLov
Re: Now Selling HughesNet Gen4! ACTUALLY, Hughesnet is offering more generous data plans at cheaper BASE rates. (although undetermined whether there is a "FREE ZONE" yet...this would definately be a factor).
EXEDE is 7.5gb $49
15gb=$79
25gb=129
Hughesnet Gen4
10gb=49
30gb=79 (offering TWICE as much as exede)
40gb=99 (15gb more than exede @ $30 cheaper)....
Has it been determined whether Gen4 will offer a "free zone" after midnight?
Also, Hughesnet "upfront fee" is $99, instead of Viasat's $49 (limited time offer).
My general dealing with Hughesnet 2 years ago is probably telling me that nothing changed about them, so I'd beware. |
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| reply to compuguybna
Re: Now Selling HughesNet Gen4! However, the devil is in the details. You need to read the small print.
The Hughesnet plans need to be split between prime and off-prime (off-prime being 2am to 8am). So in reality, the primetime plans are 10gb, 15gb, and 20gb.
Comparing to Viasat. The 10gb plan is the same cost IF you buy Exede through Dish or the NRTC. The 15gb plan is the same cost. The 20gb plan is cheaper with Hughesnet, BUT you are capped @ 40gb for the month. |
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| reply to compuguybna
Hughesnet is actually:
10GB $49.99 (Promotional)
10GB $59.99 (Typical)
15GB $79.99
20GB $99.99
Plus that much again at night. No unlimited nights.
Plus one time fee of $99 for equipment plus $9.99 for the equipment lease. Purchase optional but price not listed.
Exede is:
7.5GB $49.99
15GB $79.99
25GB $129.99
Plus unlimited nights.
Plus one time fee of $49.99 plus $9.99 per month for equipment lease or a one time fee of $219.99.
HomesFusion is:
10GB $60.00
20GB $90.00
30GB $120.00
Nothing extra at night.
Plus a one time fee of ~$199.99.
It seems all have $10 per GB overages. None of them offer much value. Although if I needed more usage I would choose Exede. If not I would go with HomeFusion. Hughes can shove this one. |
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| reply to DrStrangLov
No real explanation..... What defines "anytime" and "bonus"???
"Monthly Data Allowance is the sum of the Anytime and Bonus Bytes." |
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| said by compuguybna:No real explanation..... What defines "anytime" and "bonus"???
"Monthly Data Allowance is the sum of the Anytime and Bonus Bytes."
Anytime is for your traditional usage. Bonus is in place of the unlimited nights. So you get to use the Bonus data between 12AM and whenever. |
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| reply to DrStrangLov
I have read the "bonus data" is between 2am and 8am. Which is not good unless you are really a late night owl!
Viasat's "Late Night Free Download Zone" looks better and better. |
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| reply to DrStrangLov
Viasat in general is sounding like the better deal. And that's scary.
I find it interesting that Hughesnet did actually increase the size of their caps. But for that increase you lose unlimited nights and now your upload counts against your caps. So really you have arguably less than you started off with.
They must already be planning on overselling. "During peak hours, actual upload and download speeds will likely be lower than speeds indicated." |
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 grohgregDunno. Ask The Chief
join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY | said by silbaco:Viasat in general is sounding like the better deal.
Not to me. I just went on the Gen4 upgrade list today.
//greg// |
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 DrModemPremium
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1 edit | reply to compuguybna
said by compuguybna:Hughesnet Gen4
10gb=49
30gb=79 (offering TWICE as much as exede)
40gb=99 (15gb more than exede @ $30 cheaper)....
Actually that's grossly misleading, when you read the details:
"What is the difference between Data Allowance (anytime) and Bonus Bytes?
With HughesNet Gen4 your total monthly Data Allowance includes two components: 1) A generous anytime Data Allowance that can be utilized at any time, including during peak daytime hours. The amount of your "anytime" allowance depends on the plan you choose. The Power plan comes with 10GB, the Power PRO plan comes with 15GB, and the Power MAX plan comes with 20GB. 2) Each HughesNet Gen4 plan also comes with an equivalent amount of extra Data Allowance called Bonus Byte, which can be utilized during the off-peak, nighttime hours (2AM-8AM in your local time zone.) Bonus Bytes are a value-added feature you can get only with HughesNet Gen4. With Bonus Bytes and the Download Manager tool offered with HughesNet, you can schedule large downloads such as Microsoft software updates to take place during the night so they only use Bonus Bytes and have no impact on your "anytime" Data Allowance. Bonus Bytes are another way HughesNet Gen4 lets you do more than any other satellite Internet service."
So you see, only half your cap applies to most of the time you'll be using it. So the caps are really:
10
15
20
The other half of the cap is only usable 2am-8am. And that answers your second question... There is no free zone. It's a "secondary cap zone". They add both numbers together to get the total "massive" cap they advertise... In other words it's marketing trickery. They should have just stuck with the old rolling daily cap + free zone they have been doing with thier other service. It makes more sense and is better for users, IMO.
Viasat does 7/15/25 with a 5 hour cap free zone 12-5am. So yes, they are indeed the better deal from a data usage standpoint. That could change of course, depending on if Hughes lets you buy extra data and at what price. With Viasat you have to pay $10 to get an extra gig on your cap. If Hughes undercuts that with say, $10 for 10 extra gigs, then they would become the better deal. |
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| reply to grohgreg
said by grohgreg:said by silbaco:Viasat in general is sounding like the better deal.
Not to me. I just went on the Gen4 upgrade list today. //greg// Greg,
I am curious to understand your reasoning. Can you explain why you think Gen4 would be the better deal? What am I missing? |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to DrStrangLov
Ok so for rural people to get somewhat real internet one needs
Verizon HomeFusion 30 GB $120
Verizon USB dongle 20 GB $150
WB Excede 25 GB $140( includes $10 month equipment fee )
Hughesnet 20 GB $100
So $510 for minimum 95 GB but you get unlimited data from 12-5 AM with Excede then you can use up to 20 GB a month from 5-8 AM with Highesnet. Maybe in 2032 these people can finally get 2012 internet. |
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| said by BF69:So $510 for minimum 95 GB but you get unlimited data from 12-5 AM with Excede then you can use up to 20 GB a month from 5-8 AM with Highesnet. Maybe in 2032 these people can finally get 2012 internet.
Still less than running a dedicated line I'm afraid. :\
As for me it's not looking like I'm upgrading. Saying I use only 2GB a night for updates (OSes, Steam, etc) and YouTube / School that can add up to over 60GB on my cute "basic" plan I have. |
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| reply to silbaco
Amend brother..... |
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grohgregDunno. Ask The Chief
join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
4 edits | reply to OldSatUser
said by OldSatUser:I am curious to understand your reasoning. Can you explain why you think Gen4 would be the better deal? What am I missing?
Experience perhaps. And interest stimulated by a career in telecommunications/satcom. I've been a DirecPC/Direcway/HughesNet subscriber since the old gray dish days. For those who are newer to the game, that's a service back when they called themselves DirecPC. it was a one-way (receive) satellite service that required a dial-up account for the send side.
In the ensuing years, they evolved into Direcway - then into HughesNet. During those years I also closely watched the competition, sort of a "grass is greener" thing. Starband blossomed for a while, but couldn't maintain the pace. A few one-way providers made noise for a while. Wildblue started out with a bang, then made some technically unsound changes that soured my impression. And I'm not convinced that ViaSat is interested in raising what I still think is a rather low bar.
Some folks won't own anything but Chevrolets. They wear out one, then buy another. I've had consistent and dependable service from Hughes, but my hardware is dated. It's time to move on to newer technology. Given my poor impressions of the competition, staying with Hughes is - to me - a no brainer.
And then there's value. I'm currently paying $80/mo for an (up to) 1500/200 plan. That's kilobits per second. It has a monthly throughput limit of less than 13GB and an unlimited off-peak window. The $80 Gen4 plan provides (up to) 10/2 (that's megabits per second) and 30GB/month. And yes, I understand 15 peak + 15 off peak. Given also that I understand and accept that streaming full length movies is not in the cards for satellite subscribers, I see the Gen4 upgrade as getting more than I have now - for the same money.
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