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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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time to go to pay by the byte

for everything.


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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no, time to go to Straight Talk, NET10, Simple Mobile, etc and take ATTs customer base away from them. Once they become a dumb pipe wholesaler to these companies, we will see genuine competition.
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JasonOD

@comcast.net

reply to tshirt
No, just kill off unlimited. It's been gone long enough. Defined buckets + overages are perfect for carriers because users will almost never use 100% of the bandwidth they're paying for.



Morac
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Riverside, NJ
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reply to inteller

said by inteller:

no, time to go to Straight Talk, NET10, Simple Mobile, etc and take ATTs customer base away from them. Once they become a dumb pipe wholesaler to these companies, we will see genuine competition.

What really makes no sense is that Straight Talk uses AT&T's network (for their GSM phones). Granted Straight Talk users who use "too much" of their "unlimited" data will get a phone call (the wording of the terms say unlimited data is restricted to email and web browsing).
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RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to JasonOD

said by JasonOD :

No, just kill off unlimited. It's been gone long enough. Defined buckets + overages are perfect for carriers because users will almost never use 100% of the bandwidth they're paying for.

So long as a user has a bucket+overage contract, they should NOT need to pay extra to be allowed to tether (since any load they place on the network comes out of their bundle). The same applies to FaceTime (you are clocked on your usage). It is only an unlimited contract that MIGHT overload the network if you use FaceTime or tether.


Morac
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join:2001-08-30
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said by RARPSL:

So long as a user has a bucket+overage contract, they should NOT need to pay extra to be allowed to tether (since any load they place on the network comes out of their bundle). The same applies to FaceTime (you are clocked on your usage). It is only an unlimited contract that MIGHT overload the network if you use FaceTime or tether.

And since unlimited contract users are throttled if they use too much data, even that's not an issue since the throttled data speeds aren't good enough for FaceTime anyway.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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reply to Morac
they don't analyze what you are doing with your data, and you just have to go through their question gauntlet to avoid that. Plus, lately users have reported getting throttled instead of cut off. I can live with throttling, what I can't abide by is people telling me how and when I should use certain features on my phone.
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xsid

join:2012-08-23

reply to tshirt
maybe, but only because we are finally admitting that there is no competition (feds failed)? or are we admitting the technology doesn't exist? does it differ based on the network topology? (maybe a business failure)



tshirt
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Snohomish, WA
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What does it have to do with competition?
you can have useage based plans from multiple competitors and even different plans from one, some might buy the $50 base that has higher cost per byte overages, while other might choose the $200 base with massive bandwidth wrapped in and fair low per byte overages.
The only admissions is the voice and text use so little bandwidth they they are not the 2 main expences A base fee to grow and maintain the plant coverage, and a per byte charge to pay and increase the capacity, for which the need will grow, recognizing available frequentcies are limited increased useage at some point means splitting cells, more backhaul, more locations(rent, liability, and siteing expense.)
all these effect pricing and availablity wether there a 2 or 200 companies side by side, and more that 1 means splitting the available consumers which changes the market cost from a simple cost plus%.

A smart single source in a open market will not charge the highest price but only a price that would make it not worthwhile for others to enter that local market.


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