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ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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[HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exede 12

I will be performing and posting HughesNet Speed test over the next several days. The plan I have currently from Hughes is the 1.5mbps/128kbps HN9000 system. The test will be performed using testmy.net as most say is more reliable.

Based on all of the newest available satellite options now being exposed, it seems Exede is offering the best value. Will they deliver? based on Wildblue's past history, I'm not going to bet on it.

The plan if I decide to purchase will be the 15GB Exede 12 Package. I will revisit this post and begin posting speed test at random times during the day and at night to compare the old hughes system to the new Exede 12.

Keeping fingers crossed.....

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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Re: [HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exed

I am on the the Old HughesNet 1.5mbps/128kbps plan. I think I can come close to competing with Exede!

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to ricky_005
Using smaller test sizes may skew the results...use at least 12 Mbyte for download test, and 2.9 Mbyte for upload.

For a download test, I use the 1 Mbyte test size first, then Testmy rejects that size, and flips it up to around 12 Mbyte.

Of course, the larger the test size, the better the evaluation. Here is one on Exede 5 around 11 PM CDT.

36.6 MB test size

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 10978 Kbps or 10.7 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 36.6 MB or 37463 kB or 38362537 bytes
Download Speed:: 1372 kB/s or 1.3 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/ovEOMej
Test Time:: 2012-08-23 23:03:51 Local Time

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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I'm letting the Testmy.net choose the settings...Are you saying over-ride the default settings to let's say 12MB or 36MB?

Searching for it .....All I have found is where you can do this on automatic speed test in intervals but I don't care for burning up my bandwidth doing automatic speed test all during the day.

But I do understand what you are saying.

The more I view some of the Exede speed test, I really don't see much difference in my old HughesNet data plan other than the upload. Besides all this marketing crap about 12MB down 15MB down is they are calculating the bits differently now! So in other words I would say you basically have a 1.5MB download package or so in old marketing terms.....There just calculating the bits differently now....... Marketing BS.

I think most of the speed test which have been posted online currently are before they begun enforcing the bandwidth speed cap. So it would be very interesting to see some Exede 12 speed test after the bandwidth speed cap. Until than I will continue to question if there are any truly significant speed improvements with these new plans offered by Exede and Hughes.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by ricky_005:

.Are you saying

For downloads only....Choose 1 Mbyte test size...Testmy should reject it, and then it will choose a larger test size, usually 12 Mybtes.

I've done larger tests manually...and some with Testmy flipping it up there.

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state
K, I will try and force 12MB on the download test and 1MB or so on the upload test from here on forward.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
For downloads only....Choose 1 Mbyte test size...Testmy should reject it, and then it will choose a larger test size, usually 12 Mybtes.


Heh213

join:2012-06-16
Reviews:
·HughesNet Satell..
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:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 3393 Kbps or 3.3 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 50 MB or 51200 kB or 52428800 bytes
Download Speed:: 424 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/ILNM3dD
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 05:47:41 Local Time
1MB Download in 2.42 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~41 Minutes - 61X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 51200 kB took 120.722 seconds to complete
Running at 116% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

W/ "Turbo Page" off
"Basic" Plan (1Mbps) Downloads are usually around 300KB/s

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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41.6 MB Download



:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 12177 Kbps or 11.9 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 41.6 MB or 42582 kB or 43604150 bytes
Download Speed:: 1522 kB/s or 1.5 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/52ZbImE
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 02:23:25 Local Time
1MB Download in 0.67 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~11 Minutes - 217X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 42582 kB took 27.975 seconds to complete
Running at 404% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

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50 MB Download



:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 12548 Kbps or 12.3 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 50 MB or 51200 kB or 52428800 bytes
Download Speed:: 1569 kB/s or 1.5 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/djF4l91
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 02:27:38 Local Time
1MB Download in 0.65 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~11 Minutes - 224X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 51200 kB took 32.643 seconds to complete
Running at 410% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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reply to Heh213
100-MB Download



:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 15453 Kbps or 15.1 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 100 MB or 102400 kB or 104857600 bytes
Download Speed:: 1932 kB/s or 1.9 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/uDJO3cY
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 02:31:56 Local Time
1MB Download in 0.53 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~9 Minutes - 276X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 102400 kB took 53.014 seconds to complete
Running at 496% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

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200-MB Download



:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 12524 Kbps or 12.2 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 200 MB or 204800 kB or 209715200 bytes
Download Speed:: 1566 kB/s or 1.5 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/29hYPm6
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 02:37:40 Local Time
1MB Download in 0.65 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~11 Minutes - 224X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 204800 kB took 130.825 seconds to complete
Running at 395% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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50-MB Download using Chrome Browser!



:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 15020 Kbps or 14.7 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 50 MB or 51200 kB or 52428800 bytes
Download Speed:: 1878 kB/s or 1.8 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/ld7miCQ
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 02:50:58 Local Time
1MB Download in 0.55 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~9 Minutes - 268X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 51200 kB took 27.271 seconds to complete
Running at 466% of hosts average (Hughes Network Systems)

Anyone having an Exede 12 Satellite connection, post your numbers please......Lets see what you got!

Keep in mind I'm on HughesNets old Satellite plan.... 1.5mbps/128kbps

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by ricky_005:

Keep in mind I'm on HughesNets old Satellite plan.... 1.5mbps/128kbps

Keep in mind that somehow Hughes proxy server may be affecting your speed results. Again: For downloads only....Choose 1 Mbyte test size...Testmy should reject it, and then it will choose a larger test size, usually 12 Mybtes.

Two speed runs on Exede 5, which show how speed results can change within a minute or so.

Also, bear in mind that with Exede, your top speed will run around 18 mbps. Best test method is via sustained download of some larger file.

Around 8:22 AM CDT: Exede 5

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 6113 Kbps or 6 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 12 MB or 12288 kB or 12582912 bytes
Download Speed:: 764 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/drJ1e26
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 08:22:00 Local Time

:::.. Download Test Results ..:::
Download Connection:: 15661 Kbps or 15.3 Mbps
Download Test Size:: 12 MB or 12288 kB or 12582912 bytes
Download Speed:: 1958 kB/s or 1.9 MB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net version:12
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/db/KFM5vfw
Test Time:: 2012-08-24 08:22:39 Local Time


C0RR0SIVE88

@direcway.com
The Hughes proxy can be by-passed, I have had to do it to actually get near my normal speeds.
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One More Too

join:2010-09-09
Galena, IL
reply to Anon

Re: [HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exed

For probably about a year, Hughes has been experimenting with different compression algorithms, and different Hughes gateways are likely using different algorithms. While testmy.net is generally one of the best speed test sites, if testmy.net is not correctly reading/detecting the compression algorithms being used on your gateway, the results are meaningless even though, for others assigned to different gateways using a different algorithm, the results might well be quite accurate.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to Anon
said by ricky_005:

You are downplaying my results from TestMy.net

See this post: »Re: Can Exede 12 Compete w/Old HughesNet 1.5MBps/128KBps plan?

As indicated, one must confirm the test is being performed; and I use Networx program: »www.softperfect.com/products/networx/
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Benj

@direcpc.com
reply to ricky_005

Re: [HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exed

Hi!

I don't get it.

I just did a test 2 min. ago and these are my results:

Your Speed :: 1.7 Mbps
21% faster than Your average1.4 Mbps
73% slower than your Host average 6.5 Mbps

I did have a 2.6 earlier today, which is very rare indeed.

How/why had the host average speeds gone up so high?

I do recall that recently they were much much lower - higher than my speeds and lower than what is now posted.

That being said, you are speed tests are 400% of 500% higher than that (host average speed)!!

How is that even possible?

I feel like I am struggling in the dark ages, by comparison!!!

I have the HS 7000 modem

Please explain. I am anxious to know.

I, like you, and trying to decide if you Exede 12 would be a positive move.

Best regards,

Ben


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
said by Benj :

How/why had the host average speeds gone up so high?

It's because all TestMy reads your IP address and figures out who the provider (host) is. All results through individual hosts are added to the host historical record, from which the host average is derived. So all these bogus double digit test results conducted by the OP - and other Hughes customers who foolishly believe them - are getting factored into the HughesNet average speed data. As a result, the HughesNet host average on that site is hopelessly skewed.

Best advice I can give (repeat actually) is that HughesNet subscribers test exclusively at »consumer.performancetests.hughesnet.com/

//greg//
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HN7000S - 98cm Prodelin/2w "pure" Osiris - ProPlus - G16/1001H - NOC:GTN - NAT 67.142.115.130 - Gateway 66.82.25.10 - DNS 66.82.4.12 and 66.82.4.8 - Firefox 15/MSIE9 - AV/Firewalled by NIS2012


Benj

@direcpc.com
THANKS!

So why are they doing that? Sounds stupid to me and counter productive to giving accurate results.

That still doesn't explain why the average has shot up so high! My results WERE not way off of the averages before...

Nor does it explain why these results posted are 4-500% higher than average?!

BTW, I don't see an obvious link to sign up here. Where do they hide it?

Thank-you,

Ben

nedriv

join:2006-08-07
Somerset, CA
said by Benj :

THANKS!

---snip---
BTW, I don't see an obvious link to sign up here. Where do they hide it?

There is a "register" link in the upper left corner...It's only visible to those who are not already logged-in, so you should be able to see it.
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HN9000 /


King

@direcway.com
reply to grohgreg
said by grohgreg:

said by Benj :

How/why had the host average speeds gone up so high?

It's because all TestMy reads your IP address and figures out who the provider (host) is. All results through individual hosts are added to the host historical record, from which the host average is derived. So all these bogus double digit test results conducted by the OP - and other Hughes customers who foolishly believe them - are getting factored into the HughesNet average speed data. As a result, the HughesNet host average on that site is hopelessly skewed.

Any competent IT person knows speed test vary from one online speed test site to another Joe blow speed test website. BUT if you all play Ping Pong together on the same test site its as accurate as humanly possible. This is why the OP suggested users to test using testmy.net! So your point is not noted!

Speed test are also browser sensitive! Some user here in the forum delete this information .... YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

said by grohgreg:

Best advice I can give (repeat actually) is that HughesNet subscribers test exclusively at »consumer.performancetests.hughesnet.com/

//greg//

consumer.performancetests.hughesnet.com/ HughesNets internal speed test is just that Internal ...... IF HughesNets network is congested it should show in there HughesNets internal Test. If HughesNet starts Choking off the bandwidth to the External Net it will not show in this test. Again it is testing there INTERNAL NETWORK SYSTEM!
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silbaco
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reply to ricky_005

Re: [HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exed

You can, but there are a lot of Anon posts that are valid. Unfortunately some people have to abuse the privilege. I guess this is an example about why an increasing amount of forums block anon posts.

The only speedtests that matter to an internet subscriber are real world tests. Ex. downloading a linux ISO from a fast mirror for an extended period of time. Downloading a game on steam. Uploading some files to carbonite. Actual real usage. The only speedtest sites worth any ones time are the ones hosted by the internet service provider. Are they accurate? Who knows, who cares. They are designed by the internet provider to provide network diagnostics. It doesn't matter where they place the server, if they use UDP or TCP, or even if they look accurate to us. They have a purpose and they serve their purpose. The rest of the speedtests are irrelevant. It doesn't matter what they report. They mean nothing and many are easily thrown off by compression. If you can't get those speeds in a real world test, then they are nothing but a waste of your time. If you can, then good. But using 3rd party speedtests to accurately measure network performance is silly.
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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
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Re: [HN9000] Comparison Test - HughesNet 1.5/256 | Versus | Exed

said by silbaco:

If you can't get those speeds in a real world test, then they are nothing but a waste of your time.

All speed tests are short duration tests, but even though results can skew higher, those can give an indication indirectly of your server's load...if speed test site has the bandwidth.

All speed tests are biased in some manner, but as noted, using a good site for a file DL can be a better test.

Main point is if your web surfing works for sites with adequate bandwidth, and file DLs/Uls don't take forever, speed tests are not needed.