| [Rant] Car Wash Employees dont get all their tips I was at the car wash last week to get my car detailed which took about 2 hours, and I noticed that when a customer gives an employee a tip, they have to go to a locked box and drop the money in there. I also noticed the manager take a roll of the money from the box inside. Because my car was the last one of the day, I could the manager was splitting up the tips to each employee. I just think it is wrong to equally divide tips, especially when 1 guy might do more cars than another, or if 1 guy is a detailer and the other one just dries off the car. As a customer, if I give a tip to Employee #1, it is Employee #1's tip, not anybody else. I also get the feeling that the house might take a cut without the employees noticing when they put all the money in a box. Just like the manager did, take some money inside, and split up the reminder amongst the employees. I've been to a few places where this happens.
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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Re: [Rant] Car Wash Employees dont get all their tips So employee #1 washed, waxed and vacuumed your car all by himself?
In most car washes that I have been (and where I currently go), 2 guys wash the car, 2 different guys vacuum, and 2 other guys dry/wax.
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I've seen this at several car washes. The one I went to in Vegas had the community tip box.
The one I go to here in Denver apparently lets the employees keep their own tips. They usually work in two-person teams. A lady gave one of the team a $2 tip (for a new Range Rover!) and the guy who got it took one bill and put it in his pocket and gave the other to his working partner. Once I saw this, I started tipping in even amounts that can be split easily, rather than a single $5 bill. |
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said by billydunwood:ust like the manager did, take some money inside, and split up the reminder amongst the employees. I've been to a few places where this happens.
THat would be illegal here.
And splitting the tip makes sense depending on what job you are doing, and since it's probably not only 1 or 2 guy doing all the job on your car, it makes sense it this case too. |
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<sarcasm>Start a petition on change.org demanding the practice cease. </sarcasm> |
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I've worked in a few places with tip splitting, trust me you learn pretty quick how to get the money into your pocket before you have to hand it over, so out of the 50 bucks in tips I would make I'd lose 10 bucks putting it into the "community fund". so was not bad walked out mostly each night with 45 to 55 bucks sometimes more.
When you hand the employee the money, put it in there pocket and do something slight of hand to avoid spying morons and cameras, aka give the fucker a hug if you have too and stick it someplace.
I will not ever work for one of those type of place again because of it. |
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said by BigBlarg:said by billydunwood:ust like the manager did, take some money inside, and split up the reminder amongst the employees. I've been to a few places where this happens.
THat would be illegal here. And splitting the tip makes sense depending on what job you are doing, and since it's probably not only 1 or 2 guy doing all the job on your car, it makes sense it this case too. for the detail, 2 guys did the whole car by themzelves. For the regular car washes, its just one guy that does it. They were in front of me the whole time
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1 edit | Then if it's only the 2 of them, it would be logical they get all the tip.
I worked in an hotel's restaurant when I was a student. Depending on the day we were between 1 and 3 who's job was to help the waiters, clean table, make sure the glasses and silverware were shinning, etc, so they can ofter good and quick service to the customers.
While we didn't interact with the customers, the waiters were forced to give us a part of the tips.
Another part of our job was also to deliver food to rooms, and we would get tip directly for this. The problem is that there was always 1 lazy guy who stopped working and relaxed when all the stuff for the night was done. Other workers usually continued preparing stuff for the next day. So when there was something to deliver to the rooms, guess who was asked to do it? The guy doing nothing. He didn't deserve all the tip for himself. So we splitted. |
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| said by BigBlarg:Then if it's only the 2 of them, it would be logical they get all the tip.
I worked in an hotel's restaurant when I was a student. Depending on the day we were between 1 and 3 who's job was to help the waiters, clean table, make sure the glasses and silverware were shinning, etc, so they can ofter good and quick service to the customers.
While we didn't interact with the customers, the waiters were forced to give us a part of the tips.
Another part of our job was also to deliver food to rooms, and we would get tip directly for this. The problem is that there was always 1 lazy guy who stopped working and relaxed when all the stuff for the night was done. Other workers usually continued preparing stuff for the next day. So when there was something to deliver to the rooms, guess who was asked to do it? The guy doing nothing. He didn't deserve all the tip for himself. So we splitted.
I understand. But if I am a customer, and I give an employee a tip, it should go to that employee, not anyone else.Plus, when it gets put into a box, and the manager/owner takes money inside, they could take a tip without the employees knowing. And its not right to split the tips evenly among a person who dries 10 cars as opposed to completely detailing 4.
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Re: [Rant] Car Wash Employees dont get all their tips I am not sure where you are from, but in the US management cannot keep tips only if they are taking a tip credit out of the employee's check.
This car wash place is most likely not taking the tip credit out of paychecks, thus, they get to keep the tip money.
Under the law, any business can do this.
You should look up the tip credit.
The tip credit in the US basically means that when you tip, the business is getting most of the money anyways.
The tip credit is nothing more than the business garnishing tip money to cover base wages. In the US all workers are paid a minimum of 7.25 an hour whether they are tipped or not.
No one is ever paid 2.13 an hour like servers love to claim to guilt trip you.
What happens is they earn 7.25 an hour. Say they collect 10 dollars an hour in tips. The tip credit means the business is allowed to garnish up to 5.12 in tips per hour to keep for themselves.
This means that the business subtracts 5.12 out of the 10 in tips. The worker ends up with 7.25 in wages and 4.88 in tips. Yes, the business kept more tip than the worker.
What confuses people is how this 5.12 is collected. The government allows the business to cut down on unnecessary exchanges of money. In that hour of work, the business owes the worker 7.25 and the worker owes the business 5.12.
So the business is allowed to subtract 5.12 out of the pay check and let the worker keep the 5.12 in cash currently in their pocket.
The worker still makes 7.25 + 4.88, and the business still gets their 5.12 cut of the tips. They just avoided the extra step of the worker turning in that 5.12 of cash, only to see it come back to them on their paycheck. |
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In the long run, it all cancels out. In fact by not diving the money equally, it would create more differences among the employees and as a manager you never want that to happen. |
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| said by mastsethi:In the long run, it all cancels out. In fact by not diving the money equally, it would create more differences among the employees and as a manager you never want that to happen.
So if one employee works harder than another, or one employee washes more cars than another they should get equal tips?
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| why? makes no sense. Then there is no incentive for the employee to do a better or a good job because no matter how hard they work, they still make the same tip as a person who does a subpar job
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| said by billydunwood:why? makes no sense. Then there is no incentive for the employee to do a better or a good job because no matter how hard they work, they still make the same tip as a person who does a subpar job What on earth makes you think tip should be the benchmark of hard work. |
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| said by mastsethi:said by billydunwood:why? makes no sense. Then there is no incentive for the employee to do a better or a good job because no matter how hard they work, they still make the same tip as a person who does a subpar job What on earth makes you think tip should be the benchmark of hard work. what on earth makes you think it wouldn't? Why would a worker do a better job or spend more time on a car, if he is just going to get the same amount as everyone else? There is no incentive to do a better job when everybody gets the same tip
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| Then I would say, his hard-work is being wasted. He should be working elsewhere if he needs recognition, money, and incentives. |
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| said by mastsethi:Then I would say, his hard-work is being wasted. He should be working elsewhere if he needs recognition, money, and incentives.
And I'm assuming he'd vote Conservatively... |
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