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DrModem
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Re: What They'll Find

If you watch the monthly average amount of television in via streaming standard definition (~100 hours) you will use roughly 34gb. 720p will double that usage. 1080p will have you well over 100gb. This is not a niche usage. Between Netflix and Amazon it's quite simple and increasingly more common.

And that's only one common usage. Another, Steam, will cost you 8-12gb for a single game. And then there are others, like video chatting. Even basic web surfing is not exactly a light activity anymore. That's all for one person. Families do that many times over because they have many people.

This is not 2006. The average household doesn't use only 20 gb anymore.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
said by DrModem:

If you watch the monthly average amount of television in via streaming standard definition (~100 hours) you will use roughly 34gb. 720p will double that usage. 1080p will have you well over 100gb.

Two problems with your reasoning:

1) Few people are exclusively watching television via streaming.

2) Even by your own metric, you're only at 100GB, which is well under the caps currently imposed by terrestrial ISPs in the United States.

said by DrModem:

And that's only one common usage. Another, Steam, will cost you 8-12gb for a single game.

How many games do you buy a month?

said by DrModem:

That's all for one person. Families do that many times over because they have many people.

This is a silly argument, why should those families pay the same as a single person who has a fraction of their usage?

said by DrModem:

This is not 2006. The average household doesn't use only 20 gb anymore.

Citation needed.


inthedesert

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I find this to be a very generous assumption actually. I work for a wireless ISP in an under served area (Verizon's DSL doesn't even top 1mbit in most areas and Charter hits a select few areas) and we've found that usage has increased ten-fold over the past few years with us suggesting Netflix, etc to our customers as a way to stream movies and TV shows. Our average user went from 25 - 30gb used per month to right up around 175 - 200gb a month and doesn't really show signs of slowing down.

Know what our response to this was? Invest in our infrastructure, remove our caps and increase our speeds. This hasn't bankrupted the company like AT&T and others would like you believe (and we don't have the billions they have to play with), but has actually brought on a lot more customers and given us the opportunity to expand our service area and given a huge boost to our customer base thanks to word out mouth advertising.

elray

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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem:

If you watch the monthly average amount of television in via streaming standard definition (~100 hours) you will use roughly 34gb. 720p will double that usage. 1080p will have you well over 100gb. This is not a niche usage. Between Netflix and Amazon it's quite simple and increasingly more common.

And that's only one common usage. Another, Steam, will cost you 8-12gb for a single game. And then there are others, like video chatting. Even basic web surfing is not exactly a light activity anymore. That's all for one person. Families do that many times over because they have many people.

This is not 2006. The average household doesn't use only 20 gb anymore.

Actually, they do. The 2009 FCC study showed between 9GB and 11GB average, with a MUCH LOWER MEDIAN of less than 2GB. In other words, the "average" is heavily influenced by a small number of data-hog households. ("The top 20% of users consume 80% of the total bandwidth").

Surveys and projections from Cisco and (taken with a healthy dose of skepticism) AT&T also cite "average household" consumption levels of less than 20GB in 2010-2011, while charting substantial increases year-over-year.

Regardless, all of these stats fall way short of the 150GB cap for DSL, and we've seen industry start to raise wired caps, as well as offering commercial tiers without caps.

Wired caps will probably go away after a few years of political posturing, to be replaced by per-device-registration and sim-authentification-for-wifi and throttling-by-device and toll-free delivery packages.