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Krisnatharok
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reply to knowble

Re: WoW needs to incorporate WvWvW comabt like GW2

Here's the threads--we have a DSLR guild and have 36 users active in it already prior to official game launch tomorrow--about ~45 have signed up or expressed interest. I know the game thread is long, all the info you need is in the OP of the Aftershock thread:

»[GW2] Official DSLR Guild: Aftershock (SHOK) Info
»Official Guild Wars 2 Thread
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Ghastlyone
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reply to knowble

said by knowble:

Let me know what server you are on so I can start out on that one. You runnin' around with other DSLR peeps on GW2?

And I am going into GW2 with no hopes of it being a WoW killer. I really enjoy Wow, but hey, if GW2 is that awesome, then you never know...

We're all on Jade Quarry server.

Also, I couldn't give 2 shits if GW2 is a WoW killer or not. I don't play WoW anymore anyways, so it doesn't really matter to me. I just want to play an immersive MMO that's fun. GW2 seems to be it so far.

Threatco

join:2011-04-19
Moncton, NB

You know what was good PvP?

Age of Empires II [Trial Version] in MSN Gaming Zone.

Rush and 10BT

Come get owned!!!



TheThing

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reply to TheThing
I've always loved WoW, and I loved WoW PvP... and WoW play control and responsiveness is still King....

However, GW2 is bringing new innovation to the table, and if WoW swallowed it's pride, and admitted that some of those things would be good changes for WoW, it would benefit WoW.

Either adapt or die... and yes if WoW/blizzard doesn't adapt they will die someday.

If WoW incorporated WvWvW (in some form) I would definitely come back...

after WvW, BGs don't cut it anymore.

it could be a simple FIX to WoW lore...

Horde & Alliance... have to put aside their differences, reluctantly and temporarily to defeat the invaders from the other world... an uneasy/fragile cooperation between them

WvW in WoW would be epic and awesome, and all of you would be in line waiting to get into it


cymraeg
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if pvp were your thing then yes but, its not mine so it wouldnt affect my interest in anyway
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TheThing

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reply to TheThing
I think I've had 2 OH SHIT AWESOME moments in PvP

#1 - First time I did 40v40 AV... i was like oh shit this is awesome! truly massive PvP

#2 - Frist time I did WvW GW2... takes massively multiplayer PvP to the next level

WG and TB didn't take me there

arena in WoW is awesome, but it wasn't an epic in scale moment



Ghastlyone
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reply to TheThing
It's not only WvWvW.

It's all the other things in GW2 they did. Instant teleporting around the map. I've waited forever for Blizzard to incorporate that into WoW. Still nothing. We still ahve 10-15min flight paths.

Blizzard has always had a hard on for making travel in WoW difficult/time consuming for some reason. I don't get it.

I grouped with a guildie the other day in GW2. It took him literally 1 minute to get to my location. We grouped and got our objective done.



TheThing

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Yes, this is awesome features of GW2. and I do love those!

However, WvWvW could simply just be "added" to WoW as a separate Queue in the game, without changing anything else... (Q for arena, Q for BGs, Q for WvW)

just award honor at a different pace or something for BGs vs. WvW

those other GW2 features you speak of, would be MAJOR overhauls to WoW entirely, major...

WvWvW could simply be an instanced, separate, addition



knowble

join:2012-07-30
Newport News, VA

reply to Ghastlyone
I completely disagree with the preface that WoW has travel issues.

Players are able to fly around the zones... completely eliminating the sense of scale one should feel.

It is actually common knowledge that GW2 made it a goal to make sure that people had to enjoy/endure zones by walking around.

Teleporting from zone to zone is better than flight paths, but being able to fly around the entire world at (possibly) 310% normal speed MORE than makes up for it.

I actually wish WoW didn't introduce flying mounts... it did take away quite a bit of the "oh my" factor (for me, anyways).

While I think you are wrong, I am not saying GW2 did anything wrong here. I think they were right on the money with travel mechanics.



TheThing

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reply to TheThing
I agree with flying mounts in WoW

I think flying mounts are BAD for world immersion satisfaction

I think it boils down to the LOTR affect...

the journey to mordor would be cheapened if they could fly the eagles there and get dropped off

wouldn't be a story then!



Ghastlyone
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reply to knowble

said by knowble:

I completely disagree with the preface that WoW has travel issues.

The people leveling Archeology would like to speak with you for a moment in the back room.


DarkLogix
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reply to knowble

said by knowble:

I completely disagree with the preface that WoW has travel issues.

The mage union agrees with you.
Others not so much.


TheThing

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said by DarkLogix:

said by knowble:

I completely disagree with the preface that WoW has travel issues.

The mage union agrees with you.
Others not so much.

LOL... bastard mages!


DarkLogix
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said by TheThing:

said by DarkLogix:

said by knowble:

I completely disagree with the preface that WoW has travel issues.

The mage union agrees with you.
Others not so much.

LOL... bastard mages!

DK's need to hand over their deathgate.


Nick D
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Druids chillin' in Moonglade.

Drinkin' some tea (they invited the monks)

oooooom



Bahamut X
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reply to TheThing
But flight paths are awesome!

It's the perfect excuse to go grab the next beer (or *some* from the fridge.

Otoh, I've really enjoyed my paladins almost 500% flight speed... (guild perks + crusader "aura" (which now I get to be a greedy sob like those damn DK's and keep all to my own) + master flying)

Oh, and regarding WvW stuff back in the game... I'd kinda like something like Silithus, post AQ gate opening... There was/still is PVP stuff to do there that is persistent and can constantly change hands...
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DarkLogix
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reply to Nick D

said by Nick D:

Druids chillin' in Moonglade.

Drinkin' some tea (they invited the monks)

oooooom

You can have moon glade its not a worth addition to mage ports. (darnassus is near by.)

but for ally EPL is way out of the way.

and Horde have the swamp as a port that helps them cross the Eastern kingdoms.


stvnbrs
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reply to bTU

said by bTU:

OK, let's pretend some of us here have no clue as to what WvWvW is, and start from the top explaining what it means and what it is so an actual comparison can be made.

Imagine 4 zones the size of the Icecrown zone with a Wintergrasp castle in each except a middle one with a miniature Org. Now place towers supply lines and other areas as such. Put three servers there with 150 people each and let them duke it out like a giant 2 week long Alteric Valley.

Every 5 minutes points are awarded based on how much you control and given to your server. At certain increments your points unlock rewards for your server such as 10% increased xp, better crafting chance ect. Everyone is auto-leveled to max and you can get items from dead players ect. No mounts. Siege weapons, balitstas, but nothing you can ride. You only get credit for participation so standing around does nothing.

This is about the best I can do.
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DarkLogix
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How about flying vehicles, oh right they did that and beta players ruined it.



Lagz
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reply to TheThing
Don't forget about harvesting resources. Everyone can harvest resources without taking away a main profession skill(like fishing/cooking). Not only that, but you don't have to worry about anyone tagging your nodes, because every node you see is your node. Even if someone else gets there just before you and mines that ore it will still be waiting on you when you get to it.
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