 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP join:2001-03-25 United State kudos:4 Reviews:
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Re: Best Linksys wireless router suggestions for a big house? I got the results with an old 15" MacBook Pro and a Linksys WRT54GL wireless router (both were from late 2008).
Kitchen's tables next to windows = 2-4 bars
Downstair/Lower Elevation Family/Living Room: Couches and table = 1-2 bars ; laggy when ssh to an outside server; a few packet losses to router. Behind the bar counter = 0 to 2 bars
Room Near Kitchen and Garage = 3-4 bars
Garage = 4 bars
All other rooms look good/high.
So it looks like they will need a network cable/repeater/something to the downstair area. However, the folks did not want network cables so it would have to be wireless to bridge or power cables (getting crowded on the oulets with strips already!). |
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| This Range Extender should work:
»homestore.cisco.com/en-us/adapte···prod.htm
I used this range extender before for something and it seemed to work well. All you need to do it plug it in towards the center of the home. No wires.  -- Obama in 2012 - There's No Tea Left In The Bag. |
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1 edit | How does that work? Connect from a router and point to the middle of the house? I have never used one of those extender bridges before. |
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| said by antdude:How does that work? Connect from a router and point to the middle of the house? I have never used one of those extender bridges before. Basically that is correct. You would use your WRT54GL as your Router, and then you would plug the Range Extender into a wall socket in the center of the house.
You would configure both products to communicate with each other so that the Extender will amplify the WRT54GL signal.
When I got the Range Extender, I believe that I called Linksys support, for I needed a little help setting it up. But it was pretty easy.
One thing to remember is that although it is an N device, the Range Extender only amplifies the 2.4GHz band. But that won't be an issue if you use the WRT54GL. It would be an issue if you moved up to a dual-band router. -- Obama in 2012 - There's No Tea Left In The Bag. |
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| said by lordpuffer:said by antdude:How does that work? Connect from a router and point to the middle of the house? I have never used one of those extender bridges before. Basically that is correct. You would use your WRT54GL as your Router, and then you would plug the Range Extender into a wall socket in the center of the house. You would configure both products to communicate with each other so that the Extender will amplify the WRT54GL signal. When I got the Range Extender, I believe that I called Linksys support, for I needed a little help setting it up. But it was pretty easy. One thing to remember is that although it is an N device, the Range Extender only amplifies the 2.4GHz band. But that won't be an issue if you use the WRT54GL. It would be an issue if you moved up to a dual-band router. What is a dual-band router? Is that G and N together? What would I do if I got one in the future (e.g., WRT54GL dies). |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON | reply to antdude A range extender will do a nice job to EXTEND your range however it will also cut your speed/bandwidth by 50% or more ..... so that means that if you have multiple people and devices actively using your wireless network and due to the fact that most [not all] wireless networks are shared medium each active used will get very poor performance --- so if performance is not an issue because you will not have multiple users or devices active then extenders work. FYI multiple users would include people and devices like printers, ipads, iphones anything thst uses your wireless infrastructure.
The new wireless AC technology like the Netgear R6300 utilizes Multi-user MIMO so each user who is AC compliant and actively using the wireless network will have maximum speed/bandwidth allocated to them MUCH like a switch works in a Ethernet wired network. -- David Mozer IT-Expert on Call Information Technology for Home and Business |
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| said by mozerd:A range extender will do a nice job to EXTEND your range however it will also cut your speed/bandwidth by 50% or more ..... so that means that if you have multiple people and devices actively using your wireless network and due to the fact that most [not all] wireless networks are shared medium each active used will get very poor performance --- so if performance is not an issue because you will not have multiple users or devices active then extenders work. FYI multiple users would include people and devices like printers, ipads, iphones anything thst uses your wireless infrastructure.
The new wireless AC technology like the Netgear R6300 utilizes Multi-user MIMO so each user who is AC compliant and actively using the wireless network will have maximum speed/bandwidth allocated to them MUCH like a switch works in a Ethernet wired network. Wow, speed degradations when using the extender? So no HD streaming videos, fast local copies, on the wireless? It will be like slow 10mb/sec wireless? I assume wired connections will be OK. I think at most, it will be just one or two wireless connections. |
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| reply to antdude said by antdude:What is a dual-band router? Is that G and N together? What would I do if I got one in the future (e.g., WRT54GL dies). A dual-band router utilizes both the 2.4GHz AND the 5GHz spectrums.
Many devices are now have 5GHz wireless adapters. If you end up getting a dual-band router, then you can use an access point as described above.
As mozerd stated, the Range Extender may not be good for multiple devices that are being used at the same time, so if speed is a major issue, it may not be the way to go. -- Obama in 2012 - There's No Tea Left In The Bag. |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON | reply to antdude said by antdude:So no HD streaming videos, fast local copies, on the wireless? It will be like slow 10mb/sec wireless? I assume wired connections will be OK. I think at most, it will be just one or two wireless connections. Your wired connections will not suffer. For eacth active wireless user and/or device your speed/bandwidth will be FURTHER cut by 25% or more depending on the activity. So the extender cuts 50% THEN each active user cuts what left by an additional 25% or more. -- David Mozer IT-Expert on Call Information Technology for Home and Business |
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| said by mozerd:said by antdude:So no HD streaming videos, fast local copies, on the wireless? It will be like slow 10mb/sec wireless? I assume wired connections will be OK. I think at most, it will be just one or two wireless connections. Your wired connections will not suffer. For eacth active wireless user and/or device your speed/bandwidth will be FURTHER cut by 25% or more depending on the activity. So the extender cuts 50% THEN each active user cuts what left by an additional 25% or more. General usages are: Surfing the web, e-mailing through webmail, watching streaming videos, one online gamer, downloaders, etc. |
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| reply to mozerd said by mozerd:said by antdude:So no HD streaming videos, fast local copies, on the wireless? It will be like slow 10mb/sec wireless? I assume wired connections will be OK. I think at most, it will be just one or two wireless connections. Your wired connections will not suffer. For eacth active wireless user and/or device your speed/bandwidth will be FURTHER cut by 25% or more depending on the activity. So the extender cuts 50% THEN each active user cuts what left by an additional 25% or more. Wait, is this for ALL wireless to this extender only or including the router's wireless? |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON | reply to antdude said by antdude:General usages are: Surfing the web, e-mailing through webmail, watching streaming videos, one online gamer, downloaders, etc. With the extender in place --- YOUR WIRELESS -- ALL your wireless --- streaming videos will have significant lags, gamer will hate it and if you have VoIP call quality will be very poor.
Surfing, webmail will be slow but OK --- downloading will be slow. -- David Mozer IT-Expert on Call Information Technology for Home and Business |
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 KyawaPremium join:2006-01-26 Middletown, MD | reply to antdude Not to be a jerk, but I think you should sub this piece out. It doesn't sound like networking is your expertise? Please take no offense. |
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| reply to mozerd said by mozerd:said by antdude:General usages are: Surfing the web, e-mailing through webmail, watching streaming videos, one online gamer, downloaders, etc. With the extender in place --- YOUR WIRELESS -- ALL your wirless --- streaming videos will have significant lags, gamer will hate it and if you have VoIP call quality will be very poor. Surfing, webmail will be slow but OK --- downloading will be slow. Thanks. So basically, it is like the current speeds without any extenders in the house's weak areas. |
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| reply to Kyawa said by Kyawa:Not to be a jerk, but I think you should sub this piece out. It doesn't sound like networking is your expertise? Please take no offense. Yeah, networking isn't my strong area (have basic understandings). I didn't know it would be this complex. 
So there are no wireless routers that can extend farther than a Linksys WRT54GL then.  |
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 KyawaPremium join:2006-01-26 Middletown, MD | You can try a "N" router. Just remember, they greater the distance, the lower the speed.
Why are they against running a cable for another access point? This pretty much guarantees success. |
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1 edit | said by Kyawa:You can try a "N" router. Just remember, they greater the distance, the lower the speed.
Why are they against running a cable for another access point? This pretty much guarantees success. With N router, how much better/worse is the farther distance compared to a Linksys WRT54GL router?
Because the old people don't want to wire/cable more inside the house's walls and stuff. They really hate them.  |
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| You can take a look at these for "N" routers:
»reviews.cnet.com/best-wireless-routers/
However, you still may need another access point, whether wired or wireless to cover the whole house with the speed they need. -- Obama in 2012 - There's No Tea Left In The Bag. |
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| reply to mozerd said by mozerd:If you plan is to cover the whole house wirelessly then I would suggest you follow my placement advice and get a Netgear R6300 router which should easily cover the entire area of Interest.
The Cathedral-Vaulted Ceilings would work to your advantage with the kind of wireless router I suggested --- again if placed properly.
I have 2 of the R6300 wireless router in service in Homes slightly bigger than yours [5500 sq ft and 7300 sq ft] with Cathedral-Vaulted Ceilings. My clients are very please with the coverage they are getting. Can this model use third party firmwares? I hope this one can reach farther and better than a Linksys WRT54GL router. |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM join:2004-04-23 Nepean, ON | said by antdude:Can this model use third party firmwares? I hope this one can reach farther and better than a Linksys WRT54GL router. Not at present ... But I suspect that at some point it will. I do not endorse 3rd party firmware ... Far too many issues and in the N AC world far more complicated so stability is my primary concern.
The R6300 will cover your entire home IF placed properly. Your WRT54GL cannot in any way shapE or form compare to the R6300 .... If you read my post carefully I used one R6300 to cover a house 5500 sq ft and another R6300 to cover a house over 7000 sq ft ... More importantly my clients are delighted with the coverage and screaming performance. -- David Mozer IT-Expert on Call Information Technology for Home and Business |
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