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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:49:01 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by nunya:

In the olden days, "Five Nines" wasn't a try, it was reality. Up until deregulation, quality and customer service was of the utmost importance (contrary to what a lot of people on DSLR will say). If it took 3 hours of over-time or 1-1/2 day to restore a single customer, so be it. Breakup (divestiture) "slit the wrists" of that mindset, and TA96 was a 50 yard, 30-06, "headshot" to the idea that quality work was an essential part of providing good customer service.

That's absolutely right. My first wife and many of my classmates went to work for C&P out of high school. I assure you they didn't have the rabble that evolved when C&P became Bell Atlantic and then Verizon.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:45:59 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by UHF:

said by dennismurphy:

said by 49528867:

It ain’t 99.999 anymore that is for sure…

Some parts of the network are, but certainly not the entire thing ...

Typical HLR uptime is somewhere in the 99.99999 range or so.

I think Bell tried to have five nines uptime at the customer premises. I don't know what the uptime of my wireless carrier is, but I can't remember the last time I was unable to make a phone call.

I can. It was about 2 weeks out of every two months. That's how long it took Verizon to get the report and schedule the repair. Even when it was up the hum and static sometimes made hearing impossible. We went to home connect out of desperation and so far it's been great.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:35:34 EDT

nunya posted : In the olden days, "Five Nines" wasn't a try, it was reality. Up until deregulation, quality and customer service was of the utmost importance (contrary to what a lot of people on DSLR will say). If it took 3 hours of over-time or 1-1/2 day to restore a single customer, so be it. Breakup (divestiture) "slit the wrists" of that mindset, and TA96 was a 50 yard, 30-06, "headshot" to the idea that quality work was an essential part of providing good customer service.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:37:37 EDT

UHF posted :

said by dennismurphy:

said by 49528867:

It ain’t 99.999 anymore that is for sure…

Some parts of the network are, but certainly not the entire thing ...

Typical HLR uptime is somewhere in the 99.99999 range or so.

I think Bell tried to have five nines uptime at the customer premises. I don't know what the uptime of my wireless carrier is, but I can't remember the last time I was unable to make a phone call.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:08:58 EDT

dennismurphy posted :

said by 49528867:

It ain’t 99.999 anymore that is for sure…

Some parts of the network are, but certainly not the entire thing ...

Typical HLR uptime is somewhere in the 99.99999 range or so.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:07:26 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by UHF:

I've never seen a DS1 to a cell tower that did not pass through a CO at some point. Almost always goes to a local CO where it hits a DCS before heading on to where ever it's going.

But a DACS while commonly referred to as a switch is really a mapped test point device and unlike a CO switch has its inputs and outputs nailed up and unless the mapping is changed it really does little switching what so ever.

For the most part the only non-mapped switching in say a 3/1 DACS is to take a DS3 break it out to a DS1 level and then allow those individual DS1’s to be connected to a test-point for A or Z end testing.

But in the case were a line, either DS1 or fiber is leased from the telco or a third party, there's going to a POP somewhere that could become vulnerable.

Maybe but in my opinion most of the POP’s are well up in the network and as such are rather hardened.

I guess what I'm saying is nothing is 100% fail proof ;)

It ain’t 99.999 anymore that is for sure…

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:42:44 EDT

UHF posted :

said by 49528867:

No if it is copper it will be a point to point DS1 between the site and the MTSO usually being a DS1 to a CO and from there muxed up to fiber

I've never seen a DS1 to a cell tower that did not pass through a CO at some point. Almost always goes to a local CO where it hits a DCS before heading on to where ever it's going. Then again, I've only dealt with cellular in a rural setting, where thousands of square miles and several area codes are covered by a single MTSO. And I've been out of that business since 1999.

But in the case were a line, either DS1 or fiber is leased from the telco or a third party, there's going to a POP somewhere that could become vulnerable.

I guess what I'm saying is nothing is 100% fail proof ;)

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:08:11 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by UHF:

If copper, it likely goes through a telco switch somewhere, or more likely, several switches.

No if it is copper it will be a point to point DS1 between the site and the MTSO usually being a DS1 to a CO and from there muxed up to fiber, however that is becoming quite rare as the carriers discovered when they moved from 2G to 3G their bandwidth demands made it uneconomical to just keep on piling DS1’s into a site versus pulling in fiber and be done with it once and for all.

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:43:16 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by AVD:

and most pots lines are digitized somewhere along the route, so they become voip.

Standard POTS may be digitized in the Subscriber Loop Carrier (SLC) world but it is merely a 56k/64k channel muxed out of a DS1 there is no IP involved so it is not VoIP and in fact being a full 56K/64k channel with A/B signaling, it will support modems, FAXs and alarm system dialers.

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:34:52 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by itguy05:

One thing to remember is that cell phones still use the POTS network to complete a call. Few cell sites are connected via RF for phone calls. So if the POTS is down to that cell site you're still out of luck....

Totally incorrect, cell sites connect most commonly with fiber optic to the carriers switch (MTSO) which is a for all intents and purposes is a storm proof central office with huge battery strings and redundant if not tertiary gensets, as such as long as the cell site has power it will remain up

As for the connection to the PSTN that is done between the MTSO and the POP sometimes with the POP co-located within the MTSO at a carrier level and again by light, so as long as the POP is up which will be housed in another high reliability CO there will be a connection to the PSTN.

Wayne
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:05:18 EDT

itguy05 posted :

said by AVD:

the cell tower can be miles away from your house, and I'm sure their communications feed is a lot harder than the pots line to your house.

In many areas they all run over the same lines. And in many cases they also run on the same telephone poles.

Where I work we have many data circuits (T1, DS-x, etc). They all terminate at one or 2 poles outside of our office. From the pole to the building is underground but the rest of it is the same pole that carries power, CATV, and phone lines. If that "last mile" is down you're SOL. (Its why ours come in from 2 separate poles that have separate paths.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:00:36 EDT

AVD posted :

said by itguy05:

That's my point. If it can't get out of the cell tower it can't get to the POTS network. IOW: if that tree takes out the phone pole too (many around here are electric, phone, and cable, etc) it won't matter.

the cell tower can be miles away from your house, and I'm sure their communications feed is a lot harder than the pots line to your house.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:46:02 EDT

itguy05 posted : That's my point. If it can't get out of the cell tower it can't get to the POTS network. IOW: if that tree takes out the phone pole too (many around here are electric, phone, and cable, etc) it won't matter.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:42:42 EDT

UHF posted :

said by itguy05:

The cell is connected generally by fiber optic or copper back to a MTSO where the call officially hits the POTS network. If copper, it likely goes through a telco switch somewhere, or more likely, several switches. If fiber, it all depends on who owns the fiber, but it like goes through a POP somewhere that needs to remain powered up.

It used to be that a lot of cell sites actually WERE RF connected via microwave, and may still be, but most of the newer cell towers I'm seeing no longer have the microwave dishes on them. Either way, they have to get back to the MTSO to hop on the POTS network.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:19:59 EDT

AVD posted :

said by itguy05:

and most pots lines are digitized somewhere along the route, so they become voip.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:17:57 EDT

itguy05 posted : One thing to remember is that cell phones still use the POTS network to complete a call. Few cell sites are connected via RF for phone calls. So if the POTS is down to that cell site you're still out of luck....

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:27:03 EDT

AVD posted :

said by alkizmo:

Note: By wireless I don't mean cellphone (Just for the very young ones out here).

yes, you mean cordless.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:28:36 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by patcat88:

Comcast Digital Phone (not Voice) and RCN were/are line powered phone service.

Comcast had a rather unique way to deploy generators. A contractor and a B&S generator only problem was they had to shut down at night due to all the noise it made.

[att=1]

[att=3]

Maybe they should have knocked on the neighbors door and see if they could stretch out a cord and "borrow" a few watts as I am sure the neighbor had plenty of standby power. ;-)

[att=2]

Wayne

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:17:43 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by pende_tim:

Anyone have experience with "VZ home connect" and an alarm system dialer?

Most of those type of devices will not work with alarm system dialers.

Wayne
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:54:24 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by patcat88:

Unheard of in the northeast. I know some cable systems somewhere in the USA have all their span power supplies having generators in them, someone has to buy these »www.alpha.com/Products/Cable-Bro···erators/ . I think I read in some states PUC/PSCes required cablecos to sign up as ILECs to offer phone service, and the law mandated 24/7 uptime/backup power. Comcast Digital Phone (not Voice) and RCN were/are line powered phone service.

Also unheard of in the more rural areas of the country. Maybe the densely populated areas have this luxury but I'd guess 75 or more percent of the country doesn't have back up power. My Verizon wireless has a big cat gen-set so my cell phones and Vz Home Connect work ok if I can keep my generator on.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:53:48 EDT

patcat88 posted :

said by ropeguru:

What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.

Atleast with FIOS if you can keep your power on, you will continue to get service. With Uverse/Copper, RT is lucky to get six hours (if the batteries didn't boil out or were stolen for deposit or to use in a car years ago) and its over.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:48:14 EDT

patcat88 posted :

said by 49528867:

said by nunya:

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.

You have been out of the loop too long, in urban areas most RT's now have gensets sited and do not require the connection of external generators to remain in service.

Wayne

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:33:04 EDT

JTY posted : I've got Home Phone Connect, and it doesn't work with my alarm service.

As for phone working during extended power outage, maybe. When I've had CO fed service, it would keep working. But for SLC or RT based lines, sometimes it kept working, sometimes it didn't.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:24:09 EDT

KirkyInCT posted : Correct, that was the problem. About 50 feet up the street, we had a tree about 30 inches in diameter across the road/wires. Took about a week to clear that before they even started hanging the wires back on the new poles they needed.

A land line would have been gone once that tree gave up...

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:49:10 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by herdfan:

said by Jack_in_VA:

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

Frontier (Verizon successor here) had multiple gens stolen during the recovery from the June Derecho. People wanted them to power their own stuff and they were just sitting there beside the roads.

That's what happened here the 17 days after hurricane Isabel and Irene. Verizon put chains on them but the thieves cut them.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:42:27 EDT

herdfan posted :

said by Jack_in_VA:

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

Frontier (Verizon successor here) had multiple gens stolen during the recovery from the June Derecho. People wanted them to power their own stuff and they were just sitting there beside the roads.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:22:06 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted : I have it also. Battery life is 43 hours standby and 3 hours talk which works for me during the time at night my generator is off. My signal level is 2 lights out of a possible 3 and I use a mult-station cordless answering machine/telephone combination and one old POT for emergency use only.

Here the Verizon wireless is more reliable than their landline based sytem.

We've had no issues with it and the savings over the landline cost is substantial. $19.95/mo.

My Verizon tower has a "BIG" generator so that's not a consideration.

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:04:56 EDT

norbert26 posted : to the OP. i have had Verizon home connect since March 2012. No problems here. You have to have decent signal for this to work. I have a multi station cordless plugged into the home connect box. Just be aware that the battery backup is only good for 3 hours and thats if you have an old fashioned corded phone. this can be extended with a UPS however the question arises of how long will the cell tower hold out most have 8 hour battery backup unless there is a genny.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:23:28 EDT

pende_tim posted : Thanks, Jack

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:21:29 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted : VZ Home Connect does not work with fax or with my Directv. That's really the only negatives I have with it.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:17:54 EDT

pende_tim posted : Anyone have experience with "VZ home connect" and an alarm system dialer? They warn it will not work but is that reality?

POTS is $27.43/month to use for the alarm system monitoring and E911 coverage in my house. Would be nice to save a buck or two if possible.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:47:29 EDT

Zach 58 posted : Thanks to all who've replied. We ended up going with VZW Home Connect since Verizon's coverage is far better than AT&T's at our house. AT&T works fine outdoors but it's very sketchy indoors; where as VZW's is very strong. I still have my old Alltel service (now ATT, locally) as well as service with VZW in order to cover all of the areas I work.

As for POTS, it was very far from 100% reliable out here. It wasn't unusual for service to be out for days at a time. Ours was a business line so I can only imagine what a residential customer must go through. The only facet of the service that worked each and every time was the on-time arrival of the monthly bill. Many years ago when I lived in town, I don't ever remember POTS being out. Of course, the CO was 1/2 mile away. ;)

At any rate, Home Connect passes the Wife Test and couldn't be more simple to use. Sweetie Pie is still gloating over the fact SHE ~~plugged it in~~ connected it. :D No doubt, she and her sister will test that claim of "Unlimited" service. After being cellular handset only for over five years, it's kind of nice to have our extensions back.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:46:31 EDT

nunya posted : AT&T doesn't do that around here. That's for sure. I've never seen them institute a standby generator except at C.O.'s, data centers, and cell sites. They did do it for 1 CEV that fed a hospital, because it has a "water issue". There are 3 sump pumps in this 1 CEV. Piss poor location.
Most of the generators at cell sites don't even belong to the carriers, they belong to the tower owner.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:33:08 EDT

nonymous posted :

said by 49528867:

said by nunya:

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.

You have been out of the loop too long, in urban areas most RT's now have gensets sited and do not require the connection of external generators to remain in service.

Wayne

In your dream companies' area. Except for maybe some bigger stuff do not think Qwest/Centurylink area does that.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:17:46 EDT

ropeguru posted : Problem is, if you look at the agreements, the onus is on the customer for battery purchase and replacement. If the customer wants Verizon to replace it, then it is an additional charge.

So just another way for Verizon to profit and leave the customer out in the cold.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:50:10 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted : Verizon here does not care about the land line business. They have reduced the work force to almost nothing and is in constant battle with the State Corporation Commission on their poor service. The land line workforce is union (CWA).

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:40:35 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by ropeguru:

What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Wireless has taken that one.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.

This has been the subject of many articles in the Telecomm rags, telco’s know the ongoing problems with copper and power and want to get away from it as much as possible leaving them with two choices load the ONT’s with a backup battery and eat the every four or five year cost of a truck roll and a new battery if it didn’t screw up the ONT or dump that responsibility off to the end user.

VZ took the later route.

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:28:56 EDT

ropeguru posted : What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:22:39 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by Jack_in_VA:

It might be different for you next time depending on the severity of the damage.

I am sure it will be, with the already sited generators in place, the time to deploying to outlying areas will be considerably reduced.

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

It's too bad VZ doesn’t know how to properly fix a generator to a site, it's not like VZ areas have a monopoly on thieves we got lots of them down here too.

Wayne
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:20:57 EDT

tberg posted : I changed over to VZW Home Connect in April. One big advantage is that to Verizon, it is a cell phone. So, when we were helping our daughter and son-in-law move a few thousand miles, I just ported the EIN over to a spare cell phone I owned and took my "home phone" with me.
Since my daughter uses Tracphone, this gave her an "unlimited" phone for all of her calls. Really helpful when moving.
Then when I got back home, I ported the EIN back to the Home Connect and had our home phone back. A side benefit was that I didn't come home to a full voicemail box.
And if I find at the end of the 2 year commitment (since this is just another cell phone on my plan at $10/mth), I can port my number (which I've had since 1992) over to Google Voice and do whatever I want with it. You can't port a landline number to Google Voice, only mobile numbers.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:57:05 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted : That's fine Wayne but what Bell South did and what other companies did could be completely different. It might be different for you next time depending on the severity of the damage.

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:17:26 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by Jack_in_VA:

Everyone does not live in an "Urban Area".

For them they have access to literally thousands of generators.

[att=1]

Within days after Wilma Bell South had over 1200 deployed in SFL and if I remember correctly the only RT's that didn't have one where the RT’s destroyed in the storm.

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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:40:28 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by garys_2k:

said by Msradell:

said by KirkyInCT:

During the power outages last year, it eventually faded, but a land line would have been gone sooner.

A traditional POTS line will never go out during a power outage.

For many of us those good old days are long gone. No longer do all the pairs necessarily go back to the C.O. where the banks of batteries and diesel generators stand ready to ride out a power failure. Many urban and suburban areas now terminate the copper in remote cabinets, digitize the signals and send them over fiber to the C.O. Those cabinets have backup power measured in hours.

That's the set up here. The pairs go to remote cabinets and digitized. When the batteries die it's all over for the land line.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:39:32 EDT

cowboyro posted :

said by Msradell:

said by KirkyInCT:

During the power outages last year, it eventually faded, but a land line would have been gone sooner.

A traditional POTS line will never go out during a power outage.

Unless the outage is caused by a branch falling on the wires...
Cellphones aren't vulnerable to brokrn wires.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:37:52 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by 49528867:

said by nunya:

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.

You have been out of the loop too long, in urban areas most RT's now have gensets sited and do not require the connection of external generators to remain in service.

Wayne

Everyone does not live in an "Urban Area".

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:36:34 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by alkizmo:

Nowadays with NOBODY using non-wireless phones for the landlines, even with traditional POTS working during a power outage, the wireless phones won't work :p

Note: By wireless I don't mean cellphone (Just for the very young ones out here).

The wireless phones most certainly will work. They are after all stationary cell phones and as long as the tower is up and the battery charged in the unit or it's running on your generator everything works normally.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:30:53 EDT

Jack_in_VA posted :

said by Msradell:

said by KirkyInCT:

During the power outages last year, it eventually faded, but a land line would have been gone sooner.

A traditional POTS line will never go out during a power outage.

I don't understand why people post things they cannot possibly know about.

A traditional POTS can and does go out. After hurricane Isabel here when the power was out for 17 days Verizon could not keep the batteries charged in their switches because the generators they were using were being stolen. We relied on a cell phone almost the entire time. Verizon has a big diesel gen set on my tower.

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:39:44 EDT

49528867 posted :

said by nunya:

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.

You have been out of the loop too long, in urban areas most RT's now have gensets sited and do not require the connection of external generators to remain in service.

Wayne
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:06:43 EDT

nunya posted : Depends on where you are at and who your LSP is. AT&T tried to keep RT's ready for 8 hours standby, though realistically most were at 6 +/- hours. After that, the generators would roll. I spent many nights shuffling power units around. I could do double duty because I had a special truck that could power most RT's as well.

From what I understand, the J1C182BA controllers were all replaced for an overcharging issue, and the new units require a much longer charge cycle which makes it extremely difficult to keep up given the high number of RTs and low numbers of generators and qualified technicians.

CEVs and anything with active cooling or pumps is a whole different story. Those have to be rode on almost immediately and babysat through the entirety.

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.
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Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

Sat, 25 Aug 2012 01:00:33 EDT

alkizmo posted : Nowadays with NOBODY using non-wireless phones for the landlines, even with traditional POTS working during a power outage, the wireless phones won't work :p

Note: By wireless I don't mean cellphone (Just for the very young ones out here).