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Jack_in_VA
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reply to 49528867

Re: VZW Home Phone Connect

said by 49528867:

said by nunya:

In a widespread outage such as severe storms or hurricanes, you might as well forget about it.

You have been out of the loop too long, in urban areas most RT's now have gensets sited and do not require the connection of external generators to remain in service.

Wayne

Everyone does not live in an "Urban Area".


49528867
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said by Jack_in_VA:

Everyone does not live in an "Urban Area".

For them they have access to literally thousands of generators.




Within days after Wilma Bell South had over 1200 deployed in SFL and if I remember correctly the only RT's that didn't have one where the RT’s destroyed in the storm.

Wayne
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Jack_in_VA
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That's fine Wayne but what Bell South did and what other companies did could be completely different. It might be different for you next time depending on the severity of the damage.

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.



49528867
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said by Jack_in_VA:

It might be different for you next time depending on the severity of the damage.

I am sure it will be, with the already sited generators in place, the time to deploying to outlying areas will be considerably reduced.

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

It's too bad VZ doesn’t know how to properly fix a generator to a site, it's not like VZ areas have a monopoly on thieves we got lots of them down here too.

Wayne
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ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA

What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.



49528867
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said by ropeguru:

What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Wireless has taken that one.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.

This has been the subject of many articles in the Telecomm rags, telco’s know the ongoing problems with copper and power and want to get away from it as much as possible leaving them with two choices load the ONT’s with a backup battery and eat the every four or five year cost of a truck roll and a new battery if it didn’t screw up the ONT or dump that responsibility off to the end user.

VZ took the later route.

Wayne
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Jack_in_VA
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Verizon here does not care about the land line business. They have reduced the work force to almost nothing and is in constant battle with the State Corporation Commission on their poor service. The land line workforce is union (CWA).



ropeguru
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reply to 49528867

Problem is, if you look at the agreements, the onus is on the customer for battery purchase and replacement. If the customer wants Verizon to replace it, then it is an additional charge.

So just another way for Verizon to profit and leave the customer out in the cold.



herdfan
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Hurricane, WV
reply to Jack_in_VA

said by Jack_in_VA:

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

Frontier (Verizon successor here) had multiple gens stolen during the recovery from the June Derecho. People wanted them to power their own stuff and they were just sitting there beside the roads.


Jack_in_VA
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said by herdfan:

said by Jack_in_VA:

Verizon tried but the thieves were also there. Result is no land line.

Frontier (Verizon successor here) had multiple gens stolen during the recovery from the June Derecho. People wanted them to power their own stuff and they were just sitting there beside the roads.

That's what happened here the 17 days after hurricane Isabel and Irene. Verizon put chains on them but the thieves cut them.

patcat88

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Jamaica, NY
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reply to ropeguru

said by ropeguru:

What really gets me though is that in the past, keeping the phone system operational during times of disaster was mandated. That is to the best of their abilities given damage to infrastructure.

Now days with Verizon and FIOS, they have been released of providing that redundancy for the end user to have phone during a disaster. All the responsibility falls back on the customer to find a way to keep the ONT powered when power is out. In my opinion, we have taken a giant step backwards in the landline industry when FTTH came into play.

Atleast with FIOS if you can keep your power on, you will continue to get service. With Uverse/Copper, RT is lucky to get six hours (if the batteries didn't boil out or were stolen for deposit or to use in a car years ago) and its over.