Topic 'Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7' in forum 'Security' - dslreports.com

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:37:38 EDT

therube posted : > currently, Java blockage looks to be broken in NoScript, in Aurora/Beta

Fixed in the latest development build.

v 2.5.4rc1 (now up to rc2)
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x Fixed placeholder sizes messed up by changes in Gecko 17
x Work-around for broken content policy call for Java plugin on Gecko 17 and above

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:57:41 EDT

sludgehound posted : Java installed: No
Are you vulnerable to the latest 0-day exploit: No

That's from zulu link. Odd thought I'd run Java as soon as fix was
available. Maybe it failed since did have several prgs open. Think it wanted a reboot which usually not the case. Did that but now guess have to do a fresh install. Or just leave bloody well alone.

Random fortune from 'wisdom'
For fast-acting relief, try slowing down.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:35:56 EDT

therube posted : Aurora, so Firefox 17.
I haven't actually looked at FF 16.
I did look at FF 15.0, & it is working as expected with that.

Edit:

I had an older (July 12) version of 16, & it is working there.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/16.0 Firefox/16.0

Though don't know if that is still the case with a more recent build?

Edit2:

And working here also:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20120827 Firefox/16.0

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:58:32 EDT

jabarnut posted : Interesting...yeah, I hadn't checked that site since early this morning when I posted that and it said "yes", and mine says "no" now as well. (With the same version of Java).
So they've, um, "fixed" it.
Now, it appears they apparently need to "fix" it again so it says "yes" again. LOL! :D
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:24:34 EDT

Name Game posted :

said by kickass69:

Yet mine shows what it should about the 0-day exploit.

Yes..mine does now also..but jabarnut I think was correct..since I checked mine just after he posted and it said "yes"..but now it says "no" like yours and I had the same version each time...so I am assuming it was a change they made.. thanks for testing it. Not nice when a test thing is crap.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:19:29 EDT

redwolfe_98 posted :

said by therube:

Note that currently, Java blockage looks to be broken in NoScript, in Aurora/Beta, so do not count on that.
You can enable (the Mozilla preference) plugins.click_to_play in about:config.

therube, do you think that the problem with noscript's not blocking "java" is only when using "noscript" with "aurora", which, i assume, is a beta version of "firefox"? or, is "noscript" not blocking "java" at all, regardless of which version of "firefox" one is using? or, you don't know?

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:10:39 EDT

kickass69 posted : Yet mine shows what it should about the 0-day exploit.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:29:57 EDT

fritz43 posted : From How-to Geek:

"As usual, there’s yet another security hole in the Java Runtime Environment, and if you don’t disable your Java plugin, you’re at risk for being infected with malware. Here’s how to do it.

Security holes are nothing new, but in this case, the security hole is really bad, and there’s no telling when Oracle will get around to fixing the problem. Plus, how often do you really need Java while browsing the web? Why keep it around?
Should You Disable Java or Uninstall it?

Ideally, both. Otherwise:

If you don’t rely on any applications that use Java, and you don’t visit any sites that require Java in the browser, you should just completely remove the entire framework from your computer.
If you use applications that require Java, you should disable the plugin in the browser.
If you are forced to use Java in the browser for a specific site, you should disable Java in your main browser, and then use an alternate browser just for that one single site.

For regular users, there’s very little reason to keep Java around.

Note: many readers pointed out that the fun and extremely geeky game Minecraft requires Java. Obviously if you’re a geek, you deserve some Minecraft�€“but you should still disable the Java plugin in the browser.
How to Uninstall Java Entirely

Just like anything else, you need to head to Control Panel �€“> Uninstall Programs and uninstall it from there. Find anything else that has Java, JRE, JDK, or anything similar, and click the Uninstall button�€”it is completely free, so you can easily reinstall it if you really have to."

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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:20:11 EDT

therube posted :

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Lastly, starting this week in Aurora and Beta we’ll begin adding the components of click-to-play, a Firefox security control that helps protect users against outdated and vulnerable plugins. We anticipate this new security feature to be fully operational by Firefox 18.

Note that currently, Java blockage looks to be broken in NoScript, in Aurora/Beta, so do not count on that.
You can enable (the Mozilla preference) plugins.click_to_play in about:config.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:08:51 EDT

therube posted : (oops. looks like I should have really replied to Mele.)

Since when couldn't you use 6 in Mozilla?
I can, I have & have had it.

There have been times when Mozilla has blocked either extensions/plugins outright, or for particular version that have known vulnerabilities.

So yes, they may very well block Java 1.7u01 to 1.7u06, forcing you to go to 1.7u07.

Actually they do something just like that.

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If I had a problem with that, & the stupidity to do so, I could work around it.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:20:14 EDT

EdmundGerber posted :

said by Mele20:

So, is Mozilla now allowing use of version 6? I had TO STOP using Java on Fx because of them not allowing version 6.

Fx is not Chrome. Mozilla has no business telling me what I can and cannot use on my browser. They are much worse now than Microsoft. HYPOCRITES also since they caved to Melih but now try and say how much they protect their users. BS. :mad:

Mozilla so far seems to be the only browser maker talking about this, and actually coming up with workarounds. And for that they are terrible?

Yes - Mozilla is terrible. Please stop using their products immediately.*

*Because we're tired of your constant derailment of every frigging thread!

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:04:59 EDT

StuartMW posted :

quote:
Don't Worry, Be Happy

-Bobby McFerrin

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFDa9efCQU
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:48:15 EDT

jabarnut posted : In the famous words of Alfred E. Neuman:

"What, me worry?" :D

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:44:05 EDT

StuartMW posted : I got the same result but I wouldn't be worried :)
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:17:24 EDT

jabarnut posted : I get a kick out of this. On one of my XP Machines after going back to the 'test site' that was posted earlier
»zulu.zscaler.com/research/java_version.html

I get the following:
[att=1]
Guess everything is all better now. :D

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:58:37 EDT

mysec posted :

said by StuartMW:

Hopefully someone here will "take one for the team" and will visit a known exploit site. Then we'll know for sure if Oracle "did good".

IMHO, a better test of my security would be to see if protection in place would prevent the exploit from running, without a patch in place.

If my security includes whitelisting plugins per site, then the exploit doesn't run if I am redirected to, or otherwise hit upon a booby-trapped site not white listed.

Below, the source code shows the malicious JAR file but it can't execute if the plugin is not enabled, so the page just sits there and does nothing:

[att=1]

This is reinforced from that JAVA check site:

[att=2]

(Newer versions of browsers include the option to be notified anytime a plugin is asked to run. This will alert to any attempt to exploit a plugin by remote code execution -- aka "drive-by")

Finally, as another poster mentioned, these exploits download a binary executable file, so, protection for that in place takes care of that possibility. Here, an old exploit against v.6:

[att=3]

I'm reminded of an article from almost 6 years ago now:

An Ounce of Prevention
»www.infosec.co.uk/ExhibitorLibra···tion.pdf

This approach [white listing] can effectively eliminate the need to patch in emergency mode. Malicious code by default is not on the white list which means that enterprises can rest assured that their exposed software vulnerabilities are safe from potential exploitation, enabling their IT staff to work proactively to develop scheduled patch deployments rather than being in a constant state of emergency.

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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:32:02 EDT

mysec posted :

said by SipSizzurp:

I would assume that my Faronics Anti-Executable would deny execution of the malicious code, but would my Anti-Executable also interfere with legitimate Java activity ? ( sorry for the hijack...)

I have JAVA whitelisted for just one site, and Anti-Executable doesn't interfere at all, because in legitimate JAVA activity, a non-whitelisted executable doesn't come into the picture, so there is nothing for Anti-Executable to alert to.

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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:17:29 EDT

mysec posted :

said by jabarnut:

Glad they were on top of this one. ;)

Oracle knew about currently exploited Java vulnerabilities for months, researcher says
»www.techworld.com.au/article/435···er_says/

Oracle knew since April about the existence of the two unpatched Java 7 vulnerabilities that are currently being exploited in malware attacks, according to Adam Gowdiak, the founder and CEO of Polish security firm Security Explorations.

Security Explorations reported 19 Java 7 security issues to Oracle on Apr. 2. Those issues included the two zero-day -- unpatched -- vulnerabilities that attackers are exploiting to infect computers with malware, Gowdiak said Wednesday via email.

According to a status report received on Aug. 23 from Oracle, the company was planning to fix the two vulnerabilities in its October Critical Patch Update (CPU), together with 17 other Java 7 flaws reported by Security Explorations, Gowdiak said.

Oracle releases security patches every four months. The last Java CPU was released in June and only addressed 3 of the security issues reported by Polish security firm.

"Although we stay in touch with Oracle and the communication process has been quite flawless so far, we don't know why Oracle left so many serious bugs for the Oct. CPU," Gowdiak said.

Oracle did not immediately return a request for comment regarding the vulnerability reports received from Security Explorations.

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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:01:58 EDT

siljaline posted : Ta, norwegian

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Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:38:55 EDT

StuartMW posted :

said by Dude111:

I think the results from this one are more accurate

Not for me. It told me 2740.1 Kbps which is way low.

I typically get 10.3Mbps from this site.

»www.speedtest.net

[att=1]

Even C/Net's test gave me 7,333Kbps.

»webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
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Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:29:17 EDT

Dude111 posted : Thats a good test!!!

Thank you... I find JAVA works better than flash! (Not as CPU intensive,etc)

EDIT:

It says my DL speed is 1.98Megs which i think is way off!!

I think the results from this one are more accurate

»www.computers4sure.com/speed.asp

Says my DL is 2386k

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:57:37 EDT

Name Game posted :

said by Mele20:

Opera is as bad as Mozilla. I am not allowed to use version 6 on it.

No wonder I use IE8 more these days...I'm forced to as version 6 works fine on it.

With the update today...you can still get a version 6 that they have available and it is patched also for the problem.

posted that info here.

»Re: Java 7 update7 released today to patch zero day vulnabilty
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:24:15 EDT

norwegian posted : Ta.

Download: »www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···dex.html

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:59:42 EDT

DrStrange posted : Thanks. Emergency deployment begins tomorrow AM.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:55:42 EDT

siljaline posted : These posted in the ARS Article or this via Brian Krebs, should get everyone patched that needed patching.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:52:11 EDT

siljaline posted : ACK

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:35:06 EDT

StuartMW posted : Well this old Lemming has seen others (and even tried when younger) "jump" but now prefers to watch the less wise do so :D
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:30:09 EDT

jabarnut posted : Lol..no problem, Stuart. Hell, I don't want to test it either.
I'll do what I usually do. Just sit around and observe, and see if anyone else has problems in the near future. ;)
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:27:21 EDT

StuartMW posted :

said by jabarnut:

...you're elected. :D

Thank you for your kind offer but I respectfully decline :p

For whatever reason there have been a ton of software/firmware updates (for software I use) today. It's been non-stop.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:21:31 EDT

jabarnut posted : Excellent suggestion! And since you're the one who suggested it, you're elected. :D
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:06:45 EDT

StuartMW posted :

said by jabarnut:

Glad they were on top of this one. ;)

Hopefully someone here will "take one for the team" and will visit a known exploit site. Then we'll know for sure if Oracle "did good".
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:49:33 EDT

jabarnut posted : I hear you...and their "standard operating procedures" were not too often for sure.
Glad they were on top of this one. ;)
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:41:26 EDT

trparky posted : Guess that the guys behind Java had an "Oh shit!" moment and thought that maybe, just maybe, this deserved an out-of-band update contrary to their normal standard operating procedures.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:26:21 EDT

jabarnut posted : Correct. ;)

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:25:39 EDT

StuartMW posted : Yes well you're "Light Years Away" :D
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:24:10 EDT

jabarnut posted : Ah, thanks, Stuart.
Like I said, it's been a long day. (Not really myself). Well, I'm never really myself. :D
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:21:10 EDT

StuartMW posted :

said by jabarnut:

But am I missing the release notes?

»www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/···228.html

quote:
This releases address security concerns.

Alert for CVE-2012-4681
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:15:19 EDT

jabarnut posted :

said by coldmoon:

New update - J7 U7:

»java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

FYI

Thanks, coldmoon . But am I missing the release notes? Does this indeed address the 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7?
I mean, I'm all over it if it does. (Don't mind me, it's been a long day and I may have missed something simple somewhere).

If this "fixes" everything, that was pretty darn fast.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:01:30 EDT

DrDrew posted :

said by Mele20:

I have Java 6 update 7 (still says "Sun" on the about tab).

said by Mele20:

So, is Mozilla now allowing use of version 6? I had TO STOP using Java on Fx because of them not allowing version 6.

Java version 6 can be used above update 30:
»blog.mozilla.org/addons/2012/04/···ng-java/

said by Mozilla blog April 2012 :
This vulnerability present in the older versions of the JDK and JRE is actively being exploited, and is a potential risk to users. To mitigate this risk, we have added affected versions of the Java plugin for Windows (Version 6 Update 30 and below as well as Version 7 Update 2 and below) to Firefox's blocklist. A blocklist entry for the Java plugin on OS X may be added at a future date.

Mozilla strongly encourages anyone who requires the JDK and JRE to update to the current version as soon as possible on all platforms.

Affected versions of the Java plugin will be disabled unless a user makes an explicit choice to keep it enabled at the time they are notified of the block being applied.

The Java website also has a different, much older, notice. The Java interface used by versions earlier then Java 6 update 10 aren't compatible with Firefox 3.6 and later (and probably Opera 10.2 and later for the same reason):
»java.com/en/download/faq/firefox···ugin.xml

said by Java website, posted around December 2009 :
Starting in Firefox 3.6, Mozilla foundation will drop support on OJI (Open Java Virtual Machine Integration) and will only support the standard NPAPI and NPRuntime interfaces. The Java Plug-in which is in Java version 6 update 10 or newer versions supports the NPAPI and NPRuntime interfaces. Therefore, starting with Firefox 3.6, Java-based applets will NOT work unless you are running Java version 6 Update 10 or newer.

So Mozilla has always allowed Java 6 to run on Firefox version 3.6 or newer as long as it's been above Java 6 update 10 (I was running Java 6 up until last week). In February 2012 Java blocking was started to a minimum Java 6 update 31. Good reason to update your Java 6 update 7 (released in 2008), since it shouldn't have worked since Firefox 3.6.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:45:00 EDT

sbconslt posted : Of interest, they also released JRE 6u35, bumped the security baseline to 6u35, and called it a security fix release for CVE-2012-4681, the vulnerability in question. So, either the engineering staff that produces the JRE believes the security risk extended to JRE 6, contrary to the original report from the discoverer, or they fixed a form of the vulnerability that was not exploited with the original attack but existed anyway.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:25:20 EDT

StuartMW posted : Thanks muchly :) Downloading now.

Java 7 Update 7

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:23:10 EDT

coldmoon posted : New update - J7 U7:

»java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

FYI

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:01:54 EDT

jap posted :

said by starfish8:

Why isn't the IE Oracle add-on called Deployment Toolkit uninstalled when Java 7 Update 6 is unstalled? You need to display all add-ons to see it.

If you mean there is no Java installation remaining on your system then it's probably because the uninstaller left behind a .dll file which IE is still seeing. In versions 6.xx the file npdeploytk.dll was left lying around and confused some apps but I don't know if that's the one IE looks at.

You can go in and manually delete any and all Java program directories then clean the registry if you feel comfortable performing such tasks. Again, assuming you've done away with all Java installs, not just the mentioned v7,u6.

Related note: the Java Toolkit add-on is a forced component of Java starting with v6,u10 and is turned on by default. Does not get disabled when you disable the Java Console or Platform and cannot be removed. All you can do is disable it in browser.

Cheers!

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:23:43 EDT

Name Game posted :

said by Mele20:

Opera is as bad as Mozilla. I am not allowed to use version 6 on it.

No wonder I use IE8 more these days...I'm forced to as version 6 works fine on it.

I think the exploiters would be happy you have gone back to version 6..they might be counting on it since...

This means that there might be, for example, more computers on the Internet that run outdated installations of Java 6 that are vulnerable to older Blackhole exploits, than computers running Java 7.

»www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a···cks.html
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:56:16 EDT

starfish8 posted : Why isn't the IE Oracle add-on called Deployment Toolkit uninstalled when Java 7 Update 6 is unstalled? You need to display all add-ons to see it.

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:09:45 EDT

jabarnut posted : Well, I've got Java 7 UD 6. Don't like disabling it, because unlike some others here, I do occasionally have use for it. (My ISP's speed test for one, which I like, uses Java...and a few other sites).
But in this case I'll do without for a while I suppose. Hope they don't take forever to release a patch.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:00:16 EDT

Mele20 posted : Opera is as bad as Mozilla. I am not allowed to use version 6 on it.

No wonder I use IE8 more these days...I'm forced to as version 6 works fine on it.
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:54:11 EDT

Mele20 posted : So, is Mozilla now allowing use of version 6? I had TO STOP using Java on Fx because of them not allowing version 6.

Fx is not Chrome. Mozilla has no business telling me what I can and cannot use on my browser. They are much worse now than Microsoft. HYPOCRITES also since they caved to Melih but now try and say how much they protect their users. BS. :mad:
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:49:52 EDT

jabarnut posted : Aw heck...it's always something. I just disabled it in Opera (For now, or unless I desperately need it for something). :hmm:
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Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:14:59 EDT

rcdailey posted : If you see a plugin for the Java "Toolkit," you may as well disable that also.

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