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New home build framing question.

Since they are using dimensional lumber for the joists, the kerfs in the band board would probably pass inspection. I wouldn't accept it though; it's poor workmanship. The shim job under the beam is inadequate. Our local inspector would flag it for sure.
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Zach

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Your concerns are legitimate. I'd throw down a red flag until they are addressed.
The band board isn't just there to hold the joists up. It serves a lateral purpose as well (think earthquake).
I've never seen this done before. If the lumber is shit, you toss it (or cut it for use elsewhere) and get a new piece.

The shims are not acceptable either. They should be steel, and at least the size of the beam plate (and stacked properly!). A lot of builders grout the pocket. Not sure if that's required or not.
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If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.

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Called the foreman with my concerns. He said kerfs are a normal thing for them but he is going to look at it. I could understand a kerf or 2 in a long run but 4-5 kerfs in a 12 foot segment seems bad.

He also said he will be by tomorrow morning to look at it.

Thanks for the input. I will be posting occasionally as things come up that I am unsure on, and really appreciate the knowledge here!

After reading Nunya's post and recalling MO is an area with a good bit of seismic activity, stand your ground on those band boards and beam shimming! What they've done is very far from customary and accepted practice
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Zach

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HELL NO!!!! With as glaring a crap job this early I would be sure to be there every day to check on things. If you cant be there hire some that can. The "shims" would cause me to loose it!

I plan on being there almost daily. If I am not my mother will be cause the kids school is across the street.

Luckily the new house is only 10 minutes from the apartment we are renting.

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The rim joist being cut like that is just pure laziness. If you have a joist that bad, you call up your lumber guy and make him run you out a new one. Those shims under the beam are really half-ass.

Now with that said, everything you have posted is completely inline with your average production framing crew. If you pointed out that rim joist they truly wouldn't understand why you have a problem with it. They will say they do it all the time, and so does everyone else. The sad truth is, they would be right. If you are forced to keep using that framing crew I would be in there every day watching them, putting a level on things, and measuring what they are doing and comparing with the blueprints.

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That notch they made to clear the anchor bolt is also not acceptable!

Not to mention, there appears to be only one anchor bolt in the 12-foot run in the picture. It's looking like the OP has a long, hard road to travel with this crew.
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Zach

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Make sure that when they stud the walls the studs are directly in line with the joists. When in-line the weight on the studs/wall will bear down on the joist. Needs to be done on interior walls also. The drywallers may complain, but your plumber/HVAC people will love it. They will be able to use the whole space between studs to drop their pipes. I always run a bead glue under each wall too, won't move around afterwords, but if it is off the line, it's a bitch to correct.

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How should the anchor bolt notch been done? I didn't think there was anything wrong with it.

Also the anchor bolts are spaced pretty evenly I would have to measure but they are like every 3 foot.

Will have to buy a long level all my tools are in a pod storage. And will watch the walls to make sure they are placed over joists and not in between them.

I will also have to see if I can get them to email me a copy of the blueprints.

Thanks again guys!

Isn't this the sort of oversight that the General Contractor should be doing? (Or are you acting as the General Contractor?)

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I can picture a future split propogating up from that bolt clearance notch (it is a stress concentrator) up to the kerf. At that point the integrity of that whole board is shot.

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Is there the possibility that the rim joists were cut because the concrete is not not level, but dips down from the corner?

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