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Jack_in_VA
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Re: The most screwed up electrical work I have ever seen.

Can't resist an attack when someone questions you can you?
Your little sanitized world is evidently no where close to the real world with real world conditions and requirements. Not a simple meter pan hookup. What's with the concentric knockouts? It was an industrial facility and fully complied with and met all applicable requirements.

You would not last a week in that plant.
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said by Jack_in_VA:

Not a simple meter pan hookup. It was an industrial facility and fully complied with and met all applicable requirements.

Based on what you already posted about where you worked that seems not possible...

To me what you described sounds like a plant that belongs in a third world county where the cost of an incident is weighed low against corporate profit.

Kinda like the Dow Chemical incident in Bhopal…

Wayne

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said by Jack_in_VA:

What's with the concentric knockouts?

It was an example of how important a good path to ground is and the fact that even though a concentric knockout provides a metallic connection it is insufficient to be trusted to handle fault currents.

Now if a concentric knockout is insufficient, doped up threads are truly insufficient.

250.92 Services.

Bonding jumpers meeting the other requirements of this article shall be used around concentric or eccentric knockouts that are punched or otherwise formed so as to impair the electrical connection to ground. Standard locknuts or bushings shall not be the sole means for the bonding required by this section.

Wayne

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Since we're doing Q&A, if you don't mind, would you explain eccentric knockout? Concentric I understand.

Thx
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said by Nick_L:

Since we're doing Q&A, if you don't mind, would you explain eccentric knockout? Concentric I understand.

Thx

Whereas a concentric knockout has a blank plug surrounded by larger and larger rings an eccentric knockout has the blank plug against the edge of cabinet surrounded by larger and larger knockouts that resemble the letter C.

While I am out today I will see if I can find one and post a shot of it.

Wayne

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Thanks for the education. I've not seen those (that I'm aware of, anyway).
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said by Nick_L:

Thanks for the education. I've not seen those (that I'm aware of, anyway).

I didn't have a chance to locate one today but this is a catalog shot of some.




Wayne

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Thanks.