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jaa
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reply to cbstegs

Re: 8 downsteam

I call the 8 downstream channels a good start.

I'd like to see them add 8 more down and one more up to double the capacity of their network. 8 down/1 up for regular, and the other 8 down/1 up for boost/plus/ultra.

Then add another bonded upstream channel for boost/plus/ultra.

Then raise the upload limits on boost, plus, and ultra. Leave the "base" tier alone and keep the price where it is - it is fine for most people at least for now (including me), and the price point is reasonable.

I think they will be able to find the downstream channels, but the upstream channels may be a challenge.
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majortom1029

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said by jaa:

I call the 8 downstream channels a good start.

I'd like to see them add 8 more down and one more up to double the capacity of their network. 8 down/1 up for regular, and the other 8 down/1 up for boost/plus/ultra.

Then add another bonded upstream channel for boost/plus/ultra.

Then raise the upload limits on boost, plus, and ultra. Leave the "base" tier alone and keep the price where it is - it is fine for most people at least for now (including me), and the price point is reasonable.

I think they will be able to find the downstream channels, but the upstream channels may be a challenge.

They need to complete the analog to digital conversion first to get the upstream channels.

TheWiseGuy
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On a long term basis with additional investment they certainly will be able to add more downstream channels. They can increase the upper limit of MHz from 750MHz in most areas to even 1GHz. That adds a lot of channel capacity. They can move to MPEG4 which would allow greater compression of the video channels freeing up bandwidth for more video and Internet. See the jpg above for the channels my provider here uses, all above 870MHz

I tend to doubt they will add many more channels short term except where needed by congestion. They have already increased the capacity significantly over the last 2 years.
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jaa
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said by majortom1029:

They need to complete the analog to digital conversion first to get the upstream channels.

That's great news - I didn't realize that would free up the appropriate frequencies. I think upload will be the next bottleneck; I'm surprised it is not already.
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jaa
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said by TheWiseGuy:

They have already increased the capacity significantly over the last 2 years.

Agreed - probably about 3x in most areas, and 6x or more in the really congested areas. But I hope they will continue to do node splits and add channels for internet so we never have the congestion issues like we had prior to D3.

My fear is they will have different ideas. All I want it a big, cheap, generic pipe. CV probably wants to remain relevant and not just be relegated to being a commodity internet pipe, so they may dump money into value-add service to sustain relevancy.
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majortom1029

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the freuqencies from 42mhz and below is what is used by upstream , if they change it to docsis 3 then it can go up to 85mhz. I am gathering cablevision is waiting till all analog channels are gone before activating upstream channel bonding. Remember cablevision tries to roll things out to everybody as quick as possible. The 5- 15mhz channels are noisy and not really usedso that leaves even less channels right now for upstream.

They are looking into a docsis 3.1 spec that gives the cable companies even more room for upstream.

Bob4
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said by majortom1029:

Remember cablevision tries to roll things out to everybody as quick as possible.

We folks in New Jersey would disagree.


jaa
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said by majortom1029:

They are looking into a docsis 3.1 spec that gives the cable companies even more room for upstream.

That is good to hear. Speeds are pretty good now, but they need to keep adding capacity to keep it that way.
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kickass69

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reply to majortom1029
Would that require yet again even newer model modems?

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
The arris tm822g are 8x4 so they should be good for a while


limegrass69
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Not necessarily. They could provision some modems to use certain channels, and other modems to use different channels.

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To initially bond channels the present modems are fine but the Arris 822G will only bond upstream in the 5-42 MHz range. The Arris TM822A/S will bond up to 65MHz but only in the EuroDocsis mode. None will bond in the possible Docsis 3.1 modes which are speculated to have a range that tops at 95-200MHz.

This is one of the reasons you don't just flood the subscriber base when a new modem comes out. There will be future upgrades and it makes more sense giving new modems to those having problems because then it makes sense for the company to give out the new modem when it is available.
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jcondon

join:2000-05-27
Fishkill, NY
reply to momcat1
I just checked and in Fishkill we have 8 now too.


DAOWAce

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Flanders, NJ
reply to cbstegs
said by Bob4:

said by majortom1029:

Remember cablevision tries to roll things out to everybody as quick as possible.

We folks in New Jersey would disagree.

+1

Still at 5 channels in Flanders.

Eagerly waiting for the bump in speed to combat Comcast/Verizon increases..

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said by Bob4:

said by majortom1029:

Remember cablevision tries to roll things out to everybody as quick as possible.

We folks in New Jersey would disagree.

We folks in Matamoras, PA would disagree even more!

chunk73
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reply to cbstegs
8 downstream channels confirmed in Fairfield CT on a Arris TM8222G.