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Skippy25
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Makes sense does it not?

Further news....
The sky is blue and water is wet!

It would only make since being those same people wouldnt spend $70 on a connection and the free version requires $300 for installation. Which can be paid over time, but none the less they may see that as a barrier. Add to the fact that it is either 1GB or 5MB. That gives little incentive for those that may be paying $30 or $40 for a lot more speed to switch if they simply dont want to take on the additional cost regardless of speed.

juilinsandar
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Google is such a rich company. Why can't they just do free installs and call it a business expense?

I thought the whole point of this build out was to help low income areas get good broadband service.

Shadow01
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said by juilinsandar:

Google is such a rich company. Why can't they just do free installs and call it a business expense?

I thought the whole point of this build out was to help low income areas get good broadband service.

I wonder why people don't work for free. Seems we think alike.
openbox9
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said by juilinsandar:

I thought the whole point of this build out was to help low income areas get good broadband service.

Where did you get that silly idea from? This experiment is a playground for Google to expand its advertising model. Even Karl Bode See Profile admits that Google isn't being altruistic with this project.
davidhoffman
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It is primarily designed to allow Google web application engineers to have a large enough experimental base to try out new ideas that require very large bandwidth among a relatively large base of subscribers. Google has said that this first fiberhood rally will not be the only chance for the fiberhoods to get enough people to sign up. They needed an indication of who was really interested in Google Fiber. The areas that are greened up by the deadline of 9 September 2012, form the first phase of signups that are activated. Google indicated that there would be a second rally for areas in KCKS and KCMO not listed in the first rally. After that would come the other small cities nearby that have signed on. Then there would probably be the second chance rally for areas that failed to meet the quota the first time. There has been a lot of criticism of the 25% requirement. Why was there not a 15% or 20% option for quotas?
25139889 (banned)
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And this is my whole point on Google. They do NOT care about anyone only the free PR this site and others are giving them and making the residents in that are look like - for lack of better words- a bunch of total nut cases begging Google for this service.

Google is going to do the same thing that other companies do. And as far as this Baltimore not having FiOS- that is NOT true. I was recently there on vacation and every neighborhood i went through had VZ ONTs on the homes. Even the rental properties I looked at.
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Karl is a HUGE fanboy of this project and barley andmits anything wrong against Google since they're a HUGE supporter of this website thus giving him a nice pay check each week.

He praises this beta like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. He has gone to say this would actually cause prices to drop in both TV and internet- which it has NOT in TV costs. Oh wait- he has claimed that about Apple and their TV product as well and the google TV product.

(starting to be another Ryan Seacrest and the amount of BS he advertises)

Google will sell this project in 2 years and Google will still be the hero as Karl and the other Google goons will claim "it wasn't a model that Google could stand to compete in" the same as Google did with GoogleTV and its Nexus products that were to shape the way Americans buy phones.

tiger72
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said by davidhoffman:

It is primarily designed to allow Google web application engineers to have a large enough experimental base to try out new ideas that require very large bandwidth among a relatively large base of subscribers. Google has said that this first fiberhood rally will not be the only chance for the fiberhoods to get enough people to sign up. They needed an indication of who was really interested in Google Fiber. The areas that are greened up by the deadline of 9 September 2012, form the first phase of signups that are activated. Google indicated that there would be a second rally for areas in KCKS and KCMO not listed in the first rally. After that would come the other small cities nearby that have signed on. Then there would probably be the second chance rally for areas that failed to meet the quota the first time. There has been a lot of criticism of the 25% requirement. Why was there not a 15% or 20% option for quotas?

Because by 2 years the entire city will be covered anyways?

The rallies are merely for who gets Google Fiber FIRST. Not who gets it at all.
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said by 25139889:

Karl is a HUGE fanboy of this project and barley andmits anything wrong against Google since they're a HUGE supporter of this website thus giving him a nice pay check each week.

He praises this beta like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. He has gone to say this would actually cause prices to drop in both TV and internet- which it has NOT in TV costs. Oh wait- he has claimed that about Apple and their TV product as well and the google TV product.

(starting to be another Ryan Seacrest and the amount of BS he advertises)

Google will sell this project in 2 years and Google will still be the hero as Karl and the other Google goons will claim "it wasn't a model that Google could stand to compete in" the same as Google did with GoogleTV and its Nexus products that were to shape the way Americans buy phones.

Yep, Karl's such a big fan of Google that any time the subject of Android comes up, he either ignores it entirely, or shits on it.

LOL.
Skippy25
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This project could be giving out golden eggs and food to all in poverty and you would still come here and find something to bitch about it and speak negative of it.

Just be honest... you dont like it because it shames the companies that you are trying to protect. Companies that, beyond making major profits, suck in just about every way. But really when it comes down to it, that is all you care about.
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said by Skippy25:

This project could be giving out golden eggs and food to all in poverty and you would still come here and find something to bitch about it and speak negative of it.

Just be honest... you dont like it because it shames the companies that you are trying to protect. Companies that, beyond making major profits, suck in just about every way. But really when it comes down to it, that is all you care about.

Spot on.
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said by 25139889:

Karl is a HUGE fanboy of ....

Likewise, I'd like to see you explain why Verizon wired so many ghetto areas with FIOS. I'll answer it for you: because they received government subsidies to do so and loved it.

Then again, pick any republiCon state, county or district. Time and time again, you will see the same people (especially businesses) who scold government and taxes, be the first to utilize these same funds.

Lets face it, business hates government doing anything but loves it whenever government funds their business. Case in point: $1 Trillion annual defense expenditure; with the majority siphoned off to unaccountable private contractors.

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You complain, and complain about Karl's news reportings, yet every time I see a Google news article, you come in and bash not only them, but also Karl.

Why do you come here?
dra6o0n
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Or maybe they are just farmers and don't need the internet?
davidhoffman
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I happen to know some farmers. They use the internet if they can afford it and it is available. Lots of satellite and dial-up. Some cellular and WISP. They research costs for equipment and supplies, equipment repair and modification techniques, new crop varieties and crop rotations, animal wellness issues, and, seed and crop prices. They do online banking and e-mail. How much they can do in the World Wide Web depends on monthly usage caps, connection latency, data transfer speeds, and reliability of the internet connection. Providing dependable affordable very high speed internet access to farmers and farm communities would help them function more efficiently and effectively. It can be fiber optic or something like Ubiquiti's new AirFiber »www.ubnt.com/airfiber or better satellite or OTA TV whitespace usage or something else. Just like we expanded electricity and POTS to rural areas to help them become better, we can find some combination of technologies that can expand higher speed internet service to rural areas. It is not going to happen in 2 years. It will probably be 2021 when we have the cost and technology issues resolved for the majority of rural areas. A lot of that depends on expanding some of the major and minor fiber optic trunk lines enough to provide feeds for wireless technologies. It also depends on wireless spectrum allocation decisions that have yet to be made.
maikii
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Never a question of altruism. Google is by far the largest seller of online ads. The more people online, the more money Google makes. So even if they lost a lot of money on the fiber installations, they would make that up many times over by larger numbers of people on the net.