Topic 'Re: frontier bonding adsl 2 + vdsl' in forum 'Frontier Communications' - dslreports.com

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:37:20 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Nice, that line was the problem. Looks much better now. Enjoy!

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:52:02 EDT

staregazer posted : I ran tests directly at the jack and then I ran another ethernet line to replace a phone line that was in place between the connection in my basement and my modem. The line stats are much better now. I've got two extra pair of wire to work with as well in case I have an issue with a pair down the road or need extra pair later on.

Statistics -- ADSL1

Mode: ADSL2+
Line Coding: Trellis On
Status: No Defect
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 26.6 15.5
Attenuation (dB): 3.5 2.3
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 12.8
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 27860 1244
Rate (Kbps): 11996 1019
MSGc (number of bytes in overhead channel message): 89 12
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 254 31
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 1
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 4
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 0 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 0.6775 0.9961
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame): 3011 257
D (interleaver depth): 1 1
Delay (msec): 0 0

Super Frames: 35280 31663
Super Frame Errors: 0 0
RS Words: 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 N/A

HEC Errors: 0 0
OCD Errors: 0 0
LCD Errors: 0 0
Total Cells: 16062833 463463
Data Cells: 39133 463463
Bit Errors: 0 0

Total ES: 0 0
Total SES: 0 0
Total UAS: 36 4294966798

Statistics -- ADSL2

Mode: Adsl2p, USINP = 0.0, USDELAY = 0 msec, DSINP = 0.0, DSDELAY = 0 msec
Channel: Fast
Status: Showtime

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 27.2 9.8
Attenuation (dB): 4.0 2.5
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 dBm 12.8 dBm
Rate (Kbps): 11996 1147
Super Frames: 46500 43941
Super Frame Errors: 0 1

LPR Errors: 0
HEC Errors: 0
LCD Errors: 0
Total FE ES: 1
Total ES: 0
Total SES: 0

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 01 Oct 2012 01:28:54 EDT

nfgbrian posted : I don't think it really matters which pair you use, just have to make sure the colors on both ends match up for the NID and the phone jack. Those line stats still don't look that good to me. Did you try connecting the modem directly to the test jack? If it's fine at the NID then I would assume that there is a problem on Frontier's lines outside of the house. Is the cat5e cable you are using now in good condition? Your SNR on line 1 is at 0.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:39:57 EDT

staregazer posted : I talked to Frontier tech and I decided to run the lines on the blue and orange pairs. Here are my line stats after putting it on the shorter cat5e line...

Mode: ADSL2+
Line Coding: Trellis On
Status: No Defect
Link Power State: L0

ADSL1
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 0.0 3.3
Attenuation (dB): 6.0 2.3
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 13.0
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 10436 556
Rate (Kbps): 11996 856
MSGc (number of bytes in overhead channel message): 89 12
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 254 26
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 1
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 4
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 0 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 0.6775 1.0000
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame): 3011 216
D (interleaver depth): 1 1
Delay (msec): 0 0

Super Frames: 311103 278067
Super Frame Errors: 2137 1
RS Words: 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 N/A

HEC Errors: 951 0
OCD Errors: 1 0
LCD Errors: 0 0
Total Cells: 141629764 1040812
Data Cells: 2035190 1040812
Bit Errors: 0 0

Total ES: 2502 4294967292
Total SES: 156 0
Total UAS: 1684 1338

Statistics -- ADSL2

Mode: Adsl2p, USINP = 0.0, USDELAY = 0 msec, DSINP = 0.0, DSDELAY = 0 msec
Channel: Fast
Status: Showtime

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 7.8 7.3
Attenuation (dB): 6.5 2.2
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 dBm 12.9 dBm
Rate (Kbps): 8347 935
Super Frames: 315567 298188
Super Frame Errors: 1 4294967154

LPR Errors: 0
HEC Errors: 1
LCD Errors: 0
Total FE ES: 0
Total ES: 8
Total SES: 3

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:49:05 EDT

staregazer posted : I've got a much shorter run of cat5e wire going from the outside phone box to my basement where my phone wires are tied in at. Do I use the ethernet standard just as you do when making ethernet cords stripe orange and solid orange for line 1 and stripe green solid blue for line two or does it matter? I know that ethernet is twisted pairs and figured that would help prevent interference and would be preferred over standard phone wire that is not twisted.

I was wanting to use the two best pair and then when I tied in where all the other lines are run, have line 1 which is also phone service be tied into the phones in the home in which each phone would have their DSL Filters while the modem gets both pair.

I take it that the second line has no dial tone or phone service at all, just data?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:06:59 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Sounds like the same problem I was having with the lower line stats even though you are close to the CO. I'd probably do the same thing I did and plug the modem straight into the test jack at the NID and see what your line stats are and what speed you sync at. If it works better and your line stats are higher then it's most likely an internal wiring problem. If it doesn't help at all then there is something on Frontier's end that needs to be fixed. Might as well give it a shot and see if it helps you at all. Running a new line was actually a pretty easy process.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sun, 30 Sep 2012 03:20:55 EDT

staregazer posted : I got my ADSL2+ bonded connection installed yesterday. I initially got 21 MB down and 1.7 MB up but since got anywhere from 10-17 MB down but upload has been hovering around 1.5 MB. I have talked to tech support. Resetting the modem got me from 10 MB back up to 17.5 MB My speed a few hours later has dropped back down to 14.5 MB and it is in the middle of the night so I doubt there is that much overcrowding on their backhaul this time of night.

They had to run a new line to my house since my old one was one pair and two pairs were required since they were bonding it at the home.

When calling Frontier inquiring about some things they told me that VDSL only requires one line but bonded ADSL2+ requires two lines.

The technician told me that the guy that originally installed the first DSLAM (there are three across the road from me) that he did not provision them right (I was one of them) but they fixed the issue later on. He also said that the guy was young and made some other mistakes that he had to fix later on. He mentioned that I was on a longer loop and that he shortened my loop but cutting out the extra wire in the loop. The DSLAM is across the road from me.

They would only give me 2 MB up, would not give me the 3 MB upload speed that the website says that I can get. I seen the attainable rate and rate speeds higher than this earlier this evening. I do have a few lines that I could shorten that go to the modem. Below are my statistics.

Statistics -- ADSL1

Mode: ADSL2+
Line Coding: Trellis On
Status: No Defect
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 7.9 7.9
Attenuation (dB): 6.0 2.4
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 12.9
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 9976 960
Rate (Kbps): 7267 959
MSGc (number of bytes in overhead channel message): 59 12
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 227 29
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 1
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 4
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 0 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 0.9995 0.9917
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame): 1825 242
D (interleaver depth): 1 1
Delay (msec): 0 0

Super Frames: 113385 103180
Super Frame Errors: 0 4294967075
RS Words: 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 N/A

HEC Errors: 0 0
OCD Errors: 0 0
LCD Errors: 0 0
Total Cells: 31552590 123100
Data Cells: 589938 123100
Bit Errors: 0 0

Total ES: 1264 4294967291
Total SES: 133 0
Total UAS: 107 4294967071

Statistics -- ADSL2

Mode: Adsl2p, USINP = 0.0, USDELAY = 0 msec, DSINP = 0.0, DSDELAY = 0 msec
Channel: Fast
Status: Showtime

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 6.4 7.8
Attenuation (dB): 6.5 2.3
Output Power (dBm): 0.0 dBm 12.9 dBm
Rate (Kbps): 9618 927
Super Frames: 138990 131264
Super Frame Errors: 0 4294967160

LPR Errors: 0
HEC Errors: 0
LCD Errors: 0
Total FE ES: 0
Total ES: 0
Total SES: 0

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:16:00 EDT

jpgr posted : ok thanks thats what I thought to bad they just buried my line in the ground .So i gues if i ever wanted this they will have to come bury another!

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:04:54 EDT

Smith6612 posted : At higher upstream rates it's not unusual for a modem to be slightly off-sync depending on the copper circuit (and both ends!), one re-train and then fine the next. It is a noise-related deal, but it may still be indicative of a problem. The upstream statistics he's getting is about right for what to expect though with the standard ADSL2+ deployments ISPs deploy in the US. Annex. A caps at 1.2Mbps upstream, Annex. M caps at 3.3Mbps.

My line syncs at 896kbps on the upstream, and this is over two miles and it finishes off at an SNR of 6dB. Sometimes it syncs at 832kbps but a re-sync will get it back to where it needs to be. It's just what happens when you have a small amount of upstream frequencies being used and the copper isn't superb.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:51:41 EDT

nfgbrian posted : This modem seems to be pretty sensitive. I gave it a restart and the second line is now syncing at 1151. The line stats look just about the same for both lines now. I'm getting much better performance then I was before so overall I'm happy.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:39:24 EDT

plat2on1 posted : looks better but you still have some kind of issue, your second line isn't syncing at the max speed of 1151

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:09:21 EDT

Smith6612 posted : That's looking a lot better. Great job getting it fixed up. Plenty of room for more speed and also you've gotten a speed boost, too.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:05:29 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Well I ran a new line this morning using Cat5e cable and these are my stats now.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:58:03 EDT

mkrasz posted : Your impression is correct. Bonded service requires 2 lines terminated to the modem. A function in the DSLAM and modem 'bond' the two lines to one aggregate bandwidth.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 05:38:25 EDT

jpgr posted : IM confused about bonded adsl . I was under the impression 2 lines come into my home to my modem not the other way around. But know 2 lines are fused from The CO to 1 line to my home modem?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:28:31 EDT

jpgr posted : ok thanks then 3 m download would be better then 1.5 but would I see actually 3m ore will there be some loss !

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:55:59 EDT

logcabinboy posted : It's called JK wire. Yes to your question on the cat-5. White Blue-Blue White, White Orange-Orange White

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:51:16 EDT

staregazer posted : They are bonding the connection on their end at their DSLAM. You only need one pair to receive the service.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:29:34 EDT

jpgr posted : I just connected my modem staright to the nid. cause I do not have any phones but I do not know how the set up is for bonded dsl !

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:25:43 EDT

jpgr posted : ok here a question I live 3.2 miles away from the CO . I am provisioned at 1.5m but realy get like 1.7 . So can I get bonded adsl2+ this far out to get 3m down? here my stats

Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data Path FAST

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1792 447
Margin (dB) 6.7 22.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 48.2 34.9
Transmit Power (dBm) 16.3 11.9
FEC Errors 25242088 0
HEC Errors 2707 2166
CRC Errors 503 0

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:04:27 EDT

nfgbrian posted : I lied I don't think its cat5e. I'm not sure what type of wiring it is honestly, but here is the a picture of the NID. So if I buy cat5e would I just connect the 4 wires to the 4 screws in the NID and run the new cord? I have dryloop and don't have any voice service at all.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:56 EDT

staregazer posted : If it is cat5e wire then it should not be that old and should work just fine.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:33:50 EDT

nfgbrian posted : The inside wiring is old and it looks as if its just cat5e cable and the phone jacks that you attach to baseboards. Would it just be easier if I bought new Cat5e and just ran a new line directly from the NID? I'll post a picture here shortly...

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:21:27 EDT

plat2on1 posted :

said by nfgbrian:

Here are my stats connected straight to the NID

I can't afford for someone to come out and run new lines. What are my options here? Can I run a new dedicated phone line for the modem myself? Anyone know how hard that could be? Could I run a phone cord directly from the test jack? I'm assuming this is something that wouldn't be included for free in a Frontier tech visit.

looks like you need to clean up your inside wiring, maybe you could post a picture of your NID

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:58:30 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Here are my stats connected straight to the NID

I can't afford for someone to come out and run new lines. What are my options here? Can I run a new dedicated phone line for the modem myself? Anyone know how hard that could be? Could I run a phone cord directly from the test jack? I'm assuming this is something that wouldn't be included for free in a Frontier tech visit.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:24:02 EDT

Action2 posted : Definitely agree you should get a tech out, I have attached my statistics as a comparison. I am about 2 and a half blocks from my CO.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:17:58 EDT

plat2on1 posted : n/m

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:46 EDT

Smith6612 posted : I would definitely try to, especially if Frontier boosts speeds in your area or if you should be running faster. VDSL2, for example won't like lower quality lines as seen frequently with U-Verse over at the AT&T forums.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:52:19 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Well I'm hitting 17mbps already, do you think it's worth having a tech come out to look at the lines when I'm already getting those speeds? From what I know bout the service the stats do look pretty low...

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:36 EDT

Smith6612 posted : 24Mbps is a theoretical max. I wouldn't count on being able to hold it for long. You should definitely be hitting 17Mbps though.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:33:17 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Yeah I''m on the phone with them now and they have no idea what I'm talking about. Apparently they can't test the line from there end and the guy has no idea about bonded service. He's setting up a tech visit and maybe they can figure it out. I'm literally right across the street from the CO. Do you think I should be maxing out at 24mbps?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:31:34 EDT

Smith6612 posted : Depends on the NID. Modern ones have telephone test jacks which are the easiest to use. These test jacks are found in the Customer size and are often found under plastic doors. If you have an older NID, it's a matter of wiring up the connection yourself to test. Frontier could replace that older unit for you if you prefer, as it should be free of charge.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:09:16 EDT

nfgbrian posted : I'm pretty new to doing this stuff, so am I just plugging a phone line into the NID, or is there anything I'm supposed to do to the connections there?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:05:53 EDT

Smith6612 posted : Definitely try the NID first. If no improvement, see if you can get a tech out to take a look at the lines to see what they can do.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:40:01 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Do you think there is anything I can do to those lines without calling the techs out? The ultimate speed is supposed to be up to 24mbps. I'm assuming the first line should be syncing at 12956 as well and it's only syncing at 8283. I don't have any problems with the stability of the service and I haven't lost sync at all.

The tech that installed the service said he had only done one other before. I saw them check the line stats before they left as well, so I figured everything was fine and the numbers were off. I haven't tried to connect straight from the NID yet. I can try and do that today.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:03:51 EDT

Smith6612 posted : Those two lines almost look like they're suffering from crosstalk from one another, or ADSL1 is on a bad pair. I would expect to see 17Meg/1Meg coming out of those lines with FastPath holding an SNR of about 10-12dB with also a lower transmit power. The attenuation is much too low for the speed on ADSL1 to be that low or for the power to be that high and not get the speed you're looking for. Do those statistics improve out at the NID when you connect both circuits up? The good news is they are both using ADSL2+ so that makes you capable of 24Mbps/1.5Mbps theoretical. If Frontier starts using Annex. M, with a hit potentially on the downstream as it pushes frequencies higher up into the band you could potentially see 24Mbps/3.3Mbps per line. Of course at that point, you'd rather set up VDSL/VDSL2 as it does practically the same thing, despite having less available modems.

Also, for a VDSL modem to work on an ADSL DSLAM and vice versa, the equipment the appropriate end must support falling back to another standard. If not, you won't sync.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:51:48 EDT

Action2 posted : That is strange, am I seeing that right? It seems that both lines are not syncing at the same speed. I thought that 17Mb speed was a little odd.

What is the speed of your ultimate service supposed to be?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:14:43 EDT

nfgbrian posted : I think the line stats look pretty awful, but the service works fine and I'm not losing sync at all. I'm honestly not too sure how accurate the modem is. My line stats looked awesome with my last modem, so I'm assuming something isn't right with the way it's calculating everything. I could be wrong.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:13:24 EDT

staregazer posted : If they just upgraded your area to DSL last year then do they have to do other work in the box to make the area capable of these higher speeds of 25 MB?

A picture of the DSLAM's that they are putting in is at the following link and it states that it is Adtran VDSL but my modem is a Westell 7500 that says ADSL2+. Is it backwards compatable or somethng? Why would they go to the expense of putting in all these Westell modems if they planned on upgrading the service that requires a different modem later? Wouldn't it have been cheaper to have went with a VDSL modem to begin with that supports the higher speeds without an additonal truck roll require along with another modem?

»www.prweb.com/releases/dslams/ac···1184.htm

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:32:37 EDT

Racerbob posted : Decided to stay with Time Warner here. Frontier was tempting, but TW came through today with a very attractive package for me for two years. Also rolling my Extreme 30/5 back to Turbo 20/2.
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Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:04:53 EDT

Smith6612 posted : How do your line stats look with those speeds? :)

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:40:04 EDT

nfgbrian posted : Looks like I've been moved to the ultimate tier that I had originally requested

[att=1]

Took a bit, but I'm happy with these speeds. Hopefully upgrades in other areas will happen soon. It's a major improvement from 6/448k

I'm still on ADSL2+, looks like no VDSL for my area yet.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:57:31 EDT

Intrepid1 posted : The website said I could get it but after talking to the regional engineer my area hasn't been upgraded at all. Nor is my area even targeted for a hardware upgrade.

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:05:58 EDT

staregazer posted : I contacted them a week or so ago and was told that I cannot get it. My friend that lives a quarter mile down the road along with myself called in the past few days and were told that we could get it and got an appointment for a technician to come out to install the service. Is there a chance that they could have been wrong and that we cannot get the 24 MB service? (They said it was 24 MB not 25 MB).

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:49:02 EDT

Botnet posted : Hmm I'm curious is it why they recently put some sort of box across the highway down the road from me?

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:32:42 EDT

AMDUSER posted : The pricing difference may have to due with the pricing of the competitor in the area... if a cable provider offers cable internet.. [in the northern part of WI.. Charter does provide service at 30 Meg for about $30 [on a tv, phone, internet - bundle promotion.. @ $30 each / per month.]

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:55:56 EDT

Racerbob posted :

said by cool88 :

try it and tell everyone on how the speed hold up and if anyone has the 6mbps plan pls post speed test below i would like to see if it holds its 6mbps speed and 700+kbps upload

I am afraid that Earthlink cable at 20/2 is going to trump Frontier DSL this time. I would like to try Frontier again,but I already know the product I have right now and Earthlink's speeds will be the same as Time Warner minus the Powerboost gimmick. At least now that Frontier has boosted speeds here I can possibly use them as a negotiating tool with Time Warner. I have to think about this for a bit...
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Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:50:32 EDT

anon posted : try it and tell everyone on how the speed hold up and if anyone has the 6mbps plan pls post speed test below i would like to see if it holds its 6mbps speed and 700+kbps upload

Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:29:28 EDT

Racerbob posted : I spoke with Frontier sales rep tonight and he confirmed the pricing for my area. (I am in the Rochester, NY service area) All speed plans are available to me and the pricing is $39.95/ $49.95 and $59.95. $49.99 install fee and a one year or two year contract required with a 30 day trial period.
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Re: frontier will be using a mix of bonded adsl2+ and vdsl2 tech

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:07:39 EDT

anon posted : i can not wait untill i can try out the 6m/769k plan gne be way better than 1m and 3m gone be alot better on xbox live while 2 xbox is on