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kocoman

join:2004-06-08

If I am provisioned ADSL2, can I still use ADSL1 modem?

If I am provisioned ADSL2, can I still use ADSL1 modem?

thanks


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC

Probably not worth it. You can get a brand new ADSL2+ modem for under $25. Do you really want potentially lower speed and/or less reliability?



TSI Gabe
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
kudos:7

No it won't work, though it works to other way around where you can use an ADSL2 modem on an ADSL 1 line (most modems do anyway)


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC

I think it may work. If the DSLAM have both ADSL1 and ADSL2 enabled then it will work


kocoman

join:2004-06-08
reply to kocoman

I ask because I can use another account that is ADSL1 if I am going to go over the monthly limit.

Are the pppoe accounts on ADSL1 and ADSL2 interchangeable?

thanks


kovy

join:2009-03-26
kudos:8

said by kocoman:

I ask because I can use another account that is ADSL1 if I am going to go over the monthly limit.

Are the pppoe accounts on ADSL1 and ADSL2 interchangeable?

thanks

Accounts have nothing to do with ADSL1 or 2+... they're not even related.


Glen1
These Are The Good Ol' Days.
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:8
Reviews:
·Bell Fibe
reply to kocoman

I have seen the older modems connected to an adsl2+ line and all they do is max out at their highest speed available...somewhere around 8 meg. If you want to use another user ID then the data downloaded will be charged to that particular account at this point. I don't think the counter is placed on the port but it is based on the ID from what I hear.
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My Canada includes Quebec.
Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies.


ruggs

join:2012-03-26
Ontario

Bandwidth is counted against the user ID, not the port



Glen1
These Are The Good Ol' Days.
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:8

Yes exactly, there was talk about counting the data on the port but it hasn't been implemented yet.


ruggs

join:2012-03-26
Ontario

said by Glen1:

Yes exactly, there was talk about counting the data on the port but it hasn't been implemented yet.

I'd be surprised if they implement that, just because of stolen ports etc.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to kocoman

I've done it, my parents were having trouble with their Sympatico service when they had 7-meg ADSL2+ due to a bum modem; the modem was having major issues with ADSL2+. Disabling support for it, which forced the modem to sync with ADSL1, resolved the issue long enough to get a replacement modem (ended up just getting one from Bell).

That said, with the cost of a good ADSL2+ modem at $25 or less, there's zero reason to do this.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org


Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Fibe
reply to kocoman

You can use any adsl modem at any time,

except:

You cannot use an adsl/adsl2+ modem when your line is setup for VDSL.

You cannot use the cellpipe modem as an adsl2+ modem.

When I use my SS5360 on my 16mbit adsl2+ line, it was syncing up at ~7mbps. So yeah, its very doable.



Paolo
Mr. Wireless

join:2004-05-29
canada

cool didnt know that, mi no no. thanks for the info cloneman, much appreciated


Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Fibe
reply to kocoman

Also, you can force an ADSL2+ modem to operate in ADSL1 mode. (provided the modem allows you to change this setting)

For example I'm currently having stability issues at 16mbps ADSL2+, so if I force my modem to ADSL1 it syncs at 8mbps without losing sync on a regular basis. A dumb trick to increase downstream SNR...



Paolo
Mr. Wireless

join:2004-05-29
canada

will my bell connection hub work as an adsl1 modem?


kocoman

join:2004-06-08
reply to kocoman

Why is that VDSL cannot fallback to ADSL1/ADSL2?


kovy

join:2009-03-26
kudos:8

said by kocoman:

Why is that VDSL cannot fallback to ADSL1/ADSL2?

Because that's not how Bell set the profiles... Not even sure it's possible.


Glen1
These Are The Good Ol' Days.
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
kudos:8
reply to Paolo

The connection hub is backwards compatible but the cellpipe isn't.