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FZero68
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reply to 04193189

Re: Teksavvy website = NEW spy agency for Google & NSA

Are you for real?



AkFubar
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reply to Tx

said by Tx:

said by urbanriot:

said by 04193189:

Teksavvy website = NEW spy agency for Google & NSA

... and then:

said by 04193189:

7. Teksavvy looses more customers by using a numbered menu phone system than anything else.

I'd be interested to hear how point #7 connects to the Teksavvy Spy Agency.

CIA rebranded to TIA (Teksavvy Intelligence Agency)

No ..... TPIA = Third Party Intelligence Agency .....LMAO
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Beauty. But does not cover the medulla oblongata leaving the target quite prone to various interference.

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Teksavvy should sue him for defamation.



Inssomniak
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said by ekster:

Teksavvy should sue him for defamation.

Hes probably not going to reply again, but I fail to understand, as he is a customer of TSI, that if he does not like the company, or its actions, then why he continues to support it by being a subscriber?

Im sure he has to understand, he has the right to leave!
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said by Inssomniak:

said by ekster:

Teksavvy should sue him for defamation.

Hes probably not going to reply again, but I fail to understand, as he is a customer of TSI, that if he does not like the company, or its actions, then why he continues to support it by being a subscriber?

Im sure he has to understand, he has the right to leave!

and go with Satan himself... surely you are not suggesting that are you


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This thread is awesome.

Expand your moderator at work


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Re: Teksavvy website = NEW spy agency for Google & NSA

g777 is very good at misreading legal documents to his own ends.

Take for example, his continuing reference to the charter as meaning the laws of the land.

The charter, put simply, states that governments cannot enact and enforce legislation that violates the rights granted in the charter. It states nothing about the application of laws unless they violate those rights. So, we are all subject to the laws of the land, just not to laws that violate the rights granted under the charter! What the quoted case R vs Dell confirmed was just that ... a person entering a private institution may be subject to investigative detention without the limitations that would be placed on the police (a government agency) doing the same thing.

Common law is nothing more than "precedent" ... and hence "case law" ... Common law applies when there is no specific codified law. Specific codified law therefore trumps common law.

Common law (often derived from religious beliefs) for example states, thou shalt not kill along with "an eye for an eye" whilst at the same time saying one should "turn the other cheek". But codified law states the punishments acceptable to society and the conditions under which killing may be lawful. g777 would have us believe that it's simply thou shalt not kill and who knows what his acceptance of punishment may be. If common law trumped written law, we would be in a real mess!



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[UMB] and so...

Nod, Nod, Nod. . . so I needed a laugh this afternoon.

Ha!


EoF.


... goes back to wondering about "Ood on a loo"

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Re: Teksavvy website = NEW spy agency for Google & NSA

finally someone with a somewhat valid challenge .. even though it is sbrook .. i have a good memory bud, even at my age

it's sbrook that's misleading ... here's why:
CONSTITUTION ACT clearly states that
"Primacy of Constitution of Canada
52. (1) The Constitution of Canada is the supreme law of Canada, and any law that is inconsistent with the provisions of the Constitution is, to the extent of the inconsistency, of no force or effect."

furthermore "CANADA" / the corporation of Canada has no power on the land unless given so by those who actually own it and hold "title" to it. Everything is only a contract between you and CANADA .. and they are all separate contracts .. no matter how much the police and other government agents threaten and lie.

what is CANADA? »www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/r···-21.html
“Canada”, for greater certainty, includes the internal waters of Canada and the territorial sea of Canada;
“Canadian waters” includes the territorial sea of Canada and the internal waters of Canada;"

territorial waters: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters
Therefore CANADA is only 12 miles of seas and inland waterways surrounding the land and it only has jurisdiction for such. Nothing else. It's an Admiralty entity for the purposes of immigration / delivery of cargo or doing commerce on the seas.

It is expected that anyone coming to this land goes through immigration and once though becomes a settler. There is a whole bunch of laws and privileges on that as well.
Anyone born here is given the chance to become a settler once they have learned their inherent rights and to do private commerce .. for themselves under Common Law.

Common Law is the law of the land and superior to any government. Under it everyone is it's own master, owner and title holder, Director / CEO, etc. .. and as close to God as you can get, even an Angel.
Beware, the penalties for breaching this law is much greater as you are fully responsible for your actions and liabilities ... hence why many contract with CANADA and get insurance .. and hence become wards of the state / chattel / cattle / cargo.

All initial papers with CANADA are contracts, and only contracts = birth certificate [not certificate of live birth which has much more power], social insurance, driver's license, health card etc. It is your choice to continue such or dissolve them. This also includes taxes if you are not running a registered business with CANADA or working for government.
Even with all those contracts you are not subject to them on your own private time. Same as a cop has no power to meddle in your affairs when they are off duty.

CANADA is designed to be a temporary thing til such time as you learn and get your affairs in order.

BTW: Common law is derived from disagreements and disputes between private individuals on the land. Goes back to Magna Carta of England and much further to original part of God's or Angel's law in ancient times, right back to creation of man [ man and woman].

nice try sbrook


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g777, may I respectfully suggest that whatever medications you stopped taking on 2012-06-17 should be restarted as soon as possible.

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Sears

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Re: Teksavvy website = NEW spy agency for Google & NSA

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.



AkFubar
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said by 04193189:

BTW: Common law is derived from disagreements and disputes between private individuals on the land. Goes back to Magna Carta of England and much further to original part of God's or Angel's law in ancient times, right back to creation of man [ man and woman].

nice try sbrook

BTW: That reminds me. Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons???
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04193189

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sorry, i don't have one. but there are already many resources that you may look at and use your own critical thinking for figuring out what government and it's agents omit [don't say]
Council of Canadians: »www.canadians.org/
»www.lawfulrebellion.org/
»www.sacred-texts.com/
»www.canadacourtwatch.com/
»marcstevens.net/ .. for US citizens
... just to name a few out of 1000's.
for original laws of this land you will need to see a combination of all indigenous tribes to this land. they are mostly verbal so bring your notepad or recording device, you will need it ... whichever is allowed



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said by AkFubar:

No ..... TPIA = Third Party Intelligence Agency .....LMAO

 
FOCROFPML !


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said by dillyhammer:

Beauty.

But does not cover the medulla oblongata leaving the target quite prone to various interference.

 
Beauty is the right description - but for another type of hat.

To make it authentically Canadian, eh, we need a Tin Foil TOQUE !

BTW, that would cover the medulla and those other lobes better too.

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reply to AkFubar

said by AkFubar:

No ..... TPIA = Third Party Intelligence Agency .....LMAO

lmao and it's already written in contracts everywhere... already a head start.


Judas

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said by 04193189:

1. New teksavvy site can't be properly run without turning on java script and google-analytics ... two major reporters of private data to Google, NSA, CIA, RCMP, CSIS and many other spy agencies. Google much more so than java.
It's a well known fact Google mines for private and personal data by default and is persistent in doing so. Even if one turns on HTTPS and uses a rotating proxy like "Tor" it still reports to spy agencies.
It's all well and good for a public forum such as dslreports as most already know how to say things without being targeted but for a private individual surfing the net this is an OUTRAGE!
So much for "net-neutrality" that Teksavvy promotes.

1. Their website has been like this since they changed it from the total red design a few years ago. Everything defaulted to Ontario if you didn't enable java, cookies and whatever else.

This isn't new. You are kind of late in complaining.

said by 04193189:

2. Furthermore we are hearing complaints from people about pages loading much more slowly with java turned on. An individual with crappy old modem connection or barely registering Wifi looking for better internet it takes 5 to 10 minutes to load the old page/s, between 30 minutes and 1 hr with java turned on. That's 12 to 13 Million people who can't access Teksavvy website in a timely manner.


2. What makes you think that almost 1/2 of the entire population of Canada is upset with teksavvy? I'd like to see the marketing poll you have done on this.

said by 04193189:

3. Furthermore, using Bell's or Rogers database for new customers is futile as it's purposely misleading in many areas. Anyone who's been with Bell previously or has outstanding disputes is automatically downgraded and or blacklisted. Only way to remedy this is to actually create an account and push it to it's limits / force Bell to upgrade line speeds.


3. Is there a Bell black-list? There was talk of this from Bell a few years ago. Has it finally materialized? Have any objective evidence to offer? Have you given your objective evidence to CIPPIC yet? Or even to the CRTC? Maybe the CCTS? I'd certainly like to see it.

As for, "force Bell to upgrade line speeds", I think the coalition of resellers have already done that to a large extent. That's why you can now get better than 5-meg, if that's in your area.

said by 04193189:

4. What business does Teksavvy have to use private and personal information to find a suitable location for new internet signup? .. on an open connection yet where anyone with basic knowledge can see their info. That's what phones and secure phones are made for and in combination with customer service people!


This is what the Get Smart cone of silence is for. Standard issue with a shoe phone when joining TSI.

said by 04193189:

5. By designing such an unsecured sight Teksavvy is actually breaking a host of Privacy Laws. See: »laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/ or talk to a qualified lawyer and attorney or knowledgeable individual.


The government of Canada websites are no different. Did you sue the government of Canada yet? Matter of fact, the privacy Commissioner of Canada has only implemented an SSL feed-back design only a week ago. But we all know SSL is insecure.... I say sue them!

said by 04193189:

6. Designing a website that uses step by step pages to get at an outcome is an old trick by Government and those connected with government to mine for your private and personal data. This is totally unacceptable in today's security conscious populace. Teksavvy is actually putting people at "grave risk" ... such as those under relocation programs, hiding from mafia or other similar criminal organizations or in other relevant circumstances.


Exactly how long have you been in hiding? The last time the men-in-black came for me I got someone else to set me up an internet account. Seems to have worked, I'm still here.

said by 04193189:

7. Teksavvy looses more customers by using a numbered menu phone system than anything else. Not many want to sit on their cell phone for 5 minutes to 1 hr for some agent that doesn't know their stuff to get on the phone. Your ONLY solution is to have call answer agents that forward new customers or users directly to appropriate knowledgeable employee.

5 minutes? I think many here would be in heaven if it was only 5 minutes to an hour. Horror stories here paint a worse picture than you. BTW, can I have the stat's you acquired on these people? Thanks.

said by 04193189:

8. There have been many reports of Teksavvy agents being forceful to outright threatening with new customers and present customers alike. I tested this myself and found out agent Kyle is the problem ... via direction from above at Teksavvy? Fix it immediately or Teksavvy is looking at a lawsuit.
Note: I/we don't get involved unless it's a serious problem.


Agent Kyle has immunity since he's also an agent of the government and Revenue Canada, and does some moonlighting working for the Justice League of America out of the Fortress of Solitude.

said by 04193189:

9. And, what right does Teksavvy have to charge a Religious institution, group or individual or "private individual" taxes?
The Law is perfectly clear on this matter:

The rest of us are under Common Law or God/s Law .. whichever one or ones you may believe.
It is why an attorney [ a turn key ] is needed to go between government laws and common laws. And common law is "superior" to and trumps anything government may say or do any day.


Teksavvy has abolished all forms of capitalism and created a city-state over in chatham, ontario, and created their own version of civil law. They also created their own god out of an empty Johnny Walker bottle. All collected taxes and revenue go directly to refill this bottle god. There are no other religions accepted. Tough luck.

said by 04193189:

*So here you have it in black and white. If you don't like it then that's just too bad. Go talk to your government on changing it. I'm sure most, 12 to 13 Million men and women across this land, will have something to say about it if you do.

I hear there are already individuals ready to take Teksavvy to court and or have Teksavvy shut down due to these breaches of Law.

Teksavvy Pages should be accessible to anyone, even someone with an old 8088 or Coleco Adam ... not just ones with high-end connections and computers. They / pages should be simple, fast and full of info ... as much as possible per page. You fail in these and all above simple tasks and you loose high majority of customers ... especially rural ones who need internet the most.



Talks with the government have reached an impasse. Half the population of Canada who have constipation don't give a crap. There are no breeches in law since teksavvy created it's own religion and own country with their own common law and those laws passed down by the empty bottles.

said by 04193189:

BTW: if you were anywhere close to using those brains God gave you you would realize that it's very simple to create a page where visitors have a choice: simple or advanced. I highly suggest you hire a professional security individual for all such matters as stated here and go take some basic Law lessons. Do I need to mention "or else"?
FYI: "else" means that at present an individual can put a commercial lien on your company, on your/owner's private property and anything else you may own until this is resolved. Basically shut down your whole operation. Do you really want to go there?


Do you have a TSI-Land passport? You will have to make an appointment & fill out the paperwork before you can take out a lien on anything. Kyle has the forms.

This was fun.


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Canada (and although a corporation may exist called Canada, that is a different matter) is a State. A State is that territory over which the particular body politic exercises sovereignty.

Now our predecessors created a self governing state back in the 1860s granting themselves on the basis of many things, including common ancestry, common defense against the United States of America, sovereignty over the land we know as Canada. The peoples of the time in the provinces and colonies gave their bodies politic that right and so it continued.

Whilst we may as individuals hold property in the state, the state claims sovereignty and has reserved the right to create laws amongst other things to maintain societal and economic and international relationship order for the bodies politic. That means that our forefathers have relinquished the right of individual decision on such matters to the body politic on the basis of societal good. This is a process which has been in place for thousands of years in various states of the world. Sometimes it doesn't work and for a multitude of reasons, such as the fall of the Roman Empire, or the fall of the Soviet Union and other Eastern European countries. But in every case, society has agreed to recreate new states in their place on a similar basis.

As individuals, we therefore have no rights to opt out of the societal states created by our forefathers, but we do have the right in Canada to protest for the change and we can do that through the ballot box. Although it's interesting to note that all of the bodies politic that have sought to form our governments continue with the same system instead of changing to one of individual rights such as you are suggesting.

What you are suggesting (individuals opting out of Canada) is simple anarchistic dogma. Such anarchy would mean we wouldn't be in this position ... companies wouldn't exist because they rely on co-operation that won't happen if all that we are looking out for is ourselves.

I reiterate, your reading of the constitution is highly suspect.



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I didn't realize that we were using the Wikipedia definition for territorial waters....that's all I wanted to say.....you had me until that "chink" in the armor so to speak....

But thank you for the laugh



TwiztedZero
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Ood on the loo, actually makes more sense. HONEST!



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Oh joy, a self-proclaimed "Freemen on the land".

By visiting that website you have given consent, therefore your disjointed arguments and flawed logic are completely null.



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I wont understand why the fuss over an ISP website, but I will take all the spare time he has. !!!
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