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mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
Premium,MVM
join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON

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reply to ShelaghDB

Re: New Rogers HITRON CGN2-ROG -Cant Stay Online

The solution to your problems is to do the following:

Return the Hitron and get the CISCO DPC3825 and acquire the Netgear WNDR 4500 wireless router. Put the DPC3825 in bridge mode then connect the WNDR4500. All your apple gear will work as you would like the gear to work plus you will have an outstanding wired|wireless network.
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Brief Background:

The HITRON is a integrated GATEWAY --- this means that it has a number of FUNCTIONS that are integrated ---- primary functions like [1] Cable Modem [2] Router [3] Switch [4] wireless radio(s) [5] other functions

I just recently got some experience working for a client who got the HITRON and based on that experience IMO that the HITRON I was exposed too is not a PREMIUM product. The Cable Modem works as well as the CISCO DPC3825 so in Bridge mode its equal. The HITRON does have much superior wireless capabilities than the SMC and or the CISCO but that is not saying much when compared to many other Wireless Routers like the Netgear WNDR4500 or the CISCO Linksys E4200 v1 for example. Many people like the IDEA of INTEGRATED functions but in the CASE of the HITRON, CISCO DPC3825 and the SMCD3GN the integrated functions do not perform as well as they should for many reasons -- In to-days technology marketplace, and in my experience most consumer grade mass produced ALL IN ONE integrated NETWORK products do not provide ROBUST seamless integrated capability and functionality in FIRMWARE [embedded system integrated capability and functionality like Routing, Firewall - NAT-T/PAT/SPI, VPN - IPSec/L2TP/PPTP, Ethernet Switch, Wireless Access Point, Cable Modem, DSL Modem]. And no matter how good the glowing reports and reviews are for these products, they all continue to have far too many disruptive issues.

Now to answer you’re Question;

I have 2 free phone lines on my Macbook. You are only supposed to have one per computer so if i want to use one, I open it up and turn it on but if I need to use the other one, naturally I have to make sure that the first one is shut down and then open the second one but naturally they cannot both work at the same time..................
or am i grasping at straws here?

The HITRON has a function that issues a private IP Addresses to each device -- a device can be hardware or software disguised as hardware --- phones can be hardware devices or software devices disguised as hardware. So if you have 2 free phone lines active EACH phone line is assigned a Private IP Address BUT your software that controls your allocations does NOT permit 2 Phone lines to operate --- so YOU are causing a conflict because you insist on having 2 installed where only one is permitted --- so each phone line has been assigned a private IP Address when in FACT you are only allowed one IP address for PHONE USE by the software control system.

So why do the IP addresses differ by a few digits? The HITRON DHCP server dynamically assigns IP address whenever the Phone lines request address renewal and based on how the DHCP server is configured those private IP address may be the same address or a different address.


avernar

join:2002-05-23
Mississauga, ON

said by mozerd:

Return the Hitron and get the CISCO DPC3825 and acquire the Netgear WNDR 4500 wireless router. Put the DPC3825 in bridge mode then connect the WNDR4500.

said by mozerd:

The Cable Modem works as well as the CISCO DPC3825 so in Bridge mode its equal.

So if the Hitron cable modem part works as well as the CISCO cable mode part in bridge mode and you want him to put the CISCO in bridge mode, why not just put the Hitron in bridge mode and use the Netgear router with it?


mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON

said by avernar:

So if the Hitron cable modem part works as well as the CISCO cable mode part in bridge mode and you want him to put the CISCO in bridge mode, why not just put the Hitron in bridge mode and use the Netgear router with it?

My experience with the Hitron is very limited. My experience with the DPC3825 is significantly longer so I generally recommend to go with stuff that I've had longer experience with.

So yes the OP can go with the Hitron in bridge mode .... As a DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem it works very well.
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David Mozer
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Information Technology for Home and Business


elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
kudos:2

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reply to avernar

said by avernar:

So if the Hitron cable modem part works as well as the CISCO cable mode part in bridge mode and you want him to put the CISCO in bridge mode, why not just put the Hitron in bridge mode and use the Netgear router with it?

Cisco; rock solid past performance and American made. Hitron: unheard of till last month with no proven track record. Hmmmm...tough call.


mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON

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said by elitefx:

Cisco; rock solid past performance and American made. Hitron: unheard of till last month with no proven track record. Hmmmm...tough call.

I can no longer recommend CISCO wireless routers or most anything made by CISCO. The only exception to this is the DPC3825 -- as a DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem operating in BRIDGE mode --- for now but that may change if more shenanigans surface.

The broken TRUST issue
--
David Mozer
IT-Expert on Call
Information Technology for Home and Business

JAC70

join:2008-10-20
canada

said by mozerd:

I can no longer recommend CISCO wireless routers or most anything made by CISCO. The only exception to this is the DPC3825 for now but that may change if more shenanigans surface.

You have that pretty much backwards. As a wireless router, the DPC3825 is a piece of crap. The e3000/e4200v1, on the other hand, are quite decent routers, when paired with 3rd party firmware.

yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:2
reply to elitefx

said by elitefx:

said by avernar:

So if the Hitron cable modem part works as well as the CISCO cable mode part in bridge mode and you want him to put the CISCO in bridge mode, why not just put the Hitron in bridge mode and use the Netgear router with it?

Cisco; rock solid past performance and American made. Hitron: unheard of till last month with no proven track record. Hmmmm...tough call.

Cisco's track record has been pretty abysmal lately and most of their products are manufactured in China and not in the US. Hitron has been supplying modems to many North American MSOs for quite a while now.

I'd still recommend the Cisco in bridge mode vs. the Hitron, simply for the fact that it will save you $12 a year and I don't condone giving Rogers money for a premium product that can't deliver.


elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
kudos:2

1 edit

said by yyzlhr:

I'd still recommend the Cisco in bridge mode vs. the Hitron

Agree 1000%. Better the devil you know. Anyhoo, I've always used a top of the line standalone Wireless N Gigabit Router.....I value my privacy...


mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON
reply to JAC70

said by JAC70:

You have that pretty much backwards. As a wireless router, the DPC3825 is a piece of crap. The e3000/e4200v1, on the other hand, are quite decent routers, when paired with 3rd party firmware.

I agree that the as a wireless router, the DPC3825 is a piece of crap --- and I should have qualified my statement [now done as an edit]. And Yes the e3000/e4200v1, on the other hand, are quite decent routers BUT due to the broken trust issue I will not recommend or suggest that anyone acquire their products --- the only exception being the DPC3825 operating in bridge mode strictly as a DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem.
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David Mozer
IT-Expert on Call
Information Technology for Home and Business

JAC70

join:2008-10-20
canada

said by mozerd:

I agree that the as a wireless router, the DPC3825 is a piece of crap --- and I should have qualified my statement [now done as an edit]. And Yes the e3000/e4200v1, on the other hand, are quite decent routers BUT due to the broken trust issue I will not recommend or suggest that anyone acquire their products --- the only exception being the DPC3825 operating in bridge mode strictly as a DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem.

To which issue are you referring? The whole cloud and illegal use TOS thing? Yeah, that was annoying but they fixed that pretty quickly and with 3rd party firmware it's not an issue.


mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON

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