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scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

Defective SB6141 Modem?

I bought my own SB6141 so that I could utilization channels better, but I noticed recently is that it would stop working about once a month. But It is not easy to determine the issue until yesterday it did it again and I rebooted both my WNDR3700 and SB6141 and internet came back on. I had really slow page loading(high pings) then all pages stopped loading entirely. Then today it just did it once more and rebooting the modem allowed me to get on the internet, so I'm now 99% sure it is indeed a bad modem or maybe a bad coaxial cable, which isn't very old. My modem seems to had 5000 correctable errors within 17hours. But I'd like to get a second opinion on the matter. Also my signal is well within range 3 dBmV / 45 dBmV and an SNR of 38 so its not that.


swintec
Premium,VIP
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:4

Is it possible your router has gone bad? Another unit you have kicking around that you can try for a bit?
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scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

It has been knocked around a few times by our cats, so it could be, but what is odd is that I lost internet so I rebooted the modem and the internet started working. Yesterday I rebooted the router first and it didn't come back on still, so I rebooted the modem then it started working fine after a few mins. Both times I coudl get into both the router and the modem, but the internet would not work. The top of the SB6141 feels very warm. There are no errors in the log other than it shows that I unplugged the modem to get internet to work, but it did show "SYNC Timing Synchronization failure" only once, last time I'd say about a month ago.



TransitMan
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-05
Dayton, OH
kudos:1
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to scififan68
Those 5000 correctables from the log is indicative of noise problems on the line, outside of the residence.
Contact TWC tech support and give them this information. They will be able to see your area to find out where the problem might be.
They may also do a truck-roll, just to make sure the drop from the pole to the house is OK.

Just because the cats knocked over the router does not make for a defective router. The problems lies elsewhere.



DrDrew
So that others may surf.

join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:8

said by TransitMan:

Those 5000 correctables from the log is indicative of noise problems on the line, outside of the residence.
Contact TWC tech support and give them this information.

5000 correctables can be a drop in the bucket.

The number of correctables/uncorrectables should ALWAYS be compared against the number of unerrored or total codewords.

Often you'll find the percentage of correctables/uncorrectables to be some minuscule percentage of the total codewords received, in which case it's nothing to worry about.
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If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes.


Buclic

@rr.com

reply to scififan68
Do you have to remove a router from the path before logging into the modem?

And secondly, where is the poster seeing a correctable/uncorrectable errors log? The last time I looked in my modem it had a log, but it was not very detailed and didn't have that kind of information, but I think I went through the router.. It mostly showed boot-up info.
Thanks.


scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

reply to scififan68
I also have an Arris TM602G which I could switch over with a call to TWC. I will also revert to stock firmware on my WND3700 once everyone is off the internet. We do get sporadic drops from wireless with this router, but wired is rock solid, the wireless drops could be a firmware issue. @DrDrew I was thinking the modem was causing correctable to increase, but that probably isn't right.
@Buclic On the SB6141 you can see all the signal stats including correctable and uncorrectable errors as well as signal stats on the same page.



DrDrew
So that others may surf.

join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:8

Just to give an example of my earlier post:
5943703026+419+1739=5943705184=100% of codewords
1739 uncorrectable codewords= 0.000029% of codewords or 1 uncorrectable in 3.4 million codewords.

The uncorrectable codewords are not a problem.
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If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes.


scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE

@Dr drew Yeah I know which is why I am focusing on my modem and router.


scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

While I was sleeping it seems that my modem switched channels from 741MHz and 36MHz to 735MHz and 32MHz and when I checked the logs I got one 'T4 timeout' and two 'SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync' errors. Clearly something is very wrong, I'm going to to have Tier 3 check on my arris modem for the same errors since I cannot get into it myself. Here is a picture:



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by scififan68:

While I was sleeping it seems that my modem switched channels from 741MHz and 36MHz to 735MHz and 32MHz and when I checked the logs I got one 'T4 timeout' and two 'SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync' errors. Clearly something is very wrong, I'm going to to have Tier 3 check on my arris modem for the same errors since I cannot get into it myself. Here is a picture:

no those T4 timeouts and SYNC Timing errors are normal when your modem switches channels on the downstream or upstream. Likely your area is using loadbalancing and your modem got reset overnight due to maintenance and the modem rebooted into 735MHz downstream and 32MHz upstream. You might have had DOCSIS 3.0 work going on at that time of night last night as TWC is trying to get almost 100% coverage of DOCSIS 3.0 by the end of the year.

scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

1 edit

Ah, well there is nothing about Fremont, or even Lincoln on the network status page, but they did finally upgrade to the new navigator last week, and I was told by the office sometime in September for Docsis 3, but I won't believe it until I see it. EDIT: Also both modems went out, seems to be something with TWC itself.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by scififan68:

Ah, well there is nothing about Fremont, or even Lincoln on the network status page, but they did finally upgrade to the new navigator last week, and I was told by the office sometime in September for Docsis 3, but I won't believe it until I see it. EDIT: Also both modems went out, seems to be something with TWC itself.

I am pretty sure if both of your modems went out either the CMTS was being worked on or a new firmware was pushed out but since one modem is a motorola and the other an arris I am going to bet CMTS maintenance.

scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

2 edits

Well I got another "SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync" on Sep 20 2012 15:40:09.



It now shows 0 dBmV(was 2to4dbmv before) even after rebooting, anyone ever seen this? I've read that they could have turned off the measurement of the downstream signal level.
EDIT 9-22: seems to be all modems in my city, not just mine, hmmm it looks like my signal really is 0 now, interesting, but it did move up to 1dBmV.

scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

I wonder if my issues with my SB6141 are due to noise, I woke up today and checked my arris mta and my snr is 27, I've checked all wiring on the inside and no problems there and even hooked up my now unused SB6141 to a different port on the splitter and yeah the snr is still 27! I also had 13% correctables, I checked that with tier 3 today. I find it funny how my signal is 1dBmV and 43dBmV with an SNR of 27, while the only noticeable issue is speedtests come out lower, TWC is coming out Monday to fix it.


scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

2 edits

reply to scififan68
I bought a second SB6141 to try out and I just had a T3 timeout with jump in uncorrectable errors by millions. "Nov 23 2012 04:09:27 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out"
This isn't the first error I've had with this modem, I did have a drop in the internet with these errors:
"Jan 01 1970 00:00:14 6-Notice Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout
Nov 14 2012 21:58:45 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted
Nov 14 2012 21:58:45 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries exhausted
Nov 14 2012 21:58:43 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out"
I've looked up those and I believe it was noise on the upstream that caused the drop. I called tier 3 about that and they said my signal is fine, but they saw a bit of a drop, and to call them if I have any other issues. That was 9 days ago, and what I'm wondering what is causing these big jumps in errors, enough to cause a T3 timeout. My signal is fine and doesn't move around more than 3db. Should I be worried or am I worrying too much?
Edit: I know that the % of errors vs total codewords is pretty small, so I shouldn't worry at all? T3's only cause drops when you have many of them, but I'm trying to determine if I should return this modem or keep it.




JohnnyG101
Mafiaoso
Premium
join:2000-12-25
Charlotte, NC
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to DrDrew

said by DrDrew:

Just to give an example of my earlier post:
5943703026+419+1739=5943705184=100% of codewords
1739 uncorrectable codewords= 0.000029% of codewords or 1 uncorrectable in 3.4 million codewords.

The uncorrectable codewords are not a problem.

thanks for this explaination/example....always wondered about this.
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Emiya

join:2006-03-30
Southington, OH

reply to scififan68
I just activated a new SB6141 and am getting T3 timouts on any upload over about 2mbps for more than a few minutes. I've spent a few hours on the phone with L3 and finally managed to convince one that there was an issue. I only get 1 T3 timeout in my logs per disconnect. The modem recovers in a minute.

Signal levels are fine. All 4 bonded downstream channels show a snr of 36-37dB, power is 0-1dBmV. My upstream is 48dBmV. There is very little fluctuation in the numbers at all. None of the techs I've talked to have seen anything at all wrong signal-wise but I have a truck roll scheduled for Sunday morning.


scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

I haven't any disconnects since 9 days ago, but the correctable and uncorrectable errors are climbing, a few channels have over a million more errors. Whats funny is that my internet speeds are fine and nothing disconnecting right now, but you never know.


Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2

reply to scififan68
Just an FYI: your downstream power is supposed to be within the range of -10db and 10db. 0 is "perfect" for downstream strength.


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