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decx
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reply to Mike

Re: Sept. 12 invites for iPhone 5? release...

Actually SPSS just managed to catch back up with Chrome, it just got to v21.



HiVolt
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reply to Thinkdiff

I wonder if it'll be called iPhone LTE. lol... They did it with the 3G...



Octavean
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reply to haroldo

Meh,....

A rose by any other name,......

I just can't quite see what they could do to the iPhone 5 to live up to expectation of the namesake.

I don't have an iPhone yet, although I do have a new iPad, iPod Touch and MBP. This may be the point at which I buy an iPhone but I think I might make it a 4S, 4 or maybe even 3GS if I am. Feeling cheap,....

And I just might give it to my loving Wife,........LOL,....... You hear that!!!



Alcohol
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reply to haroldo

It's going to be called 4GS. No reason for the 6th generation phone to be called 5.
Edit: Or the new iphone.



Mike
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reply to Octavean

"4G"

The only reason to get it.



bobrk
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reply to Thinkdiff

This. Even though the MBPr I'm typing on says internally MacBook 10, it's not referred to as such in marketing materials.

And my "sad" comment above is contextual. Obviously, I'm not as "sad" about this as I was when I lost family members, duh.



Jackarino
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reply to HiVolt

I wouldn't be surprised for the new name to be iPhone LTE

But looking back at the invite. It looks like it will be the iPhone 5



dellsweig
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reply to haroldo

The folks in Cupportino must be falling out of their conference room chairs watching this and the hundreds of other forums and talking heads....

ONLY they know what it looks like, whats in it and what it will be called.

I would bet they have a team that feeds misinformation, "leaked" parts photos and reports just for occasions like this

That shadowy '5' might be there just for to do exactly this - create buzz.......

If they never showed a real picture and opened the order lines - they would still sell MILLIONS - sight unseen..... And I will be there placing my order with the rest of you

They are geniuses
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Alcohol
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reply to Jackarino

said by Jackarino:

I wouldn't be surprised for the new name to be iPhone LTE

But looking back at the invite. It looks like it will be the iPhone 5

And get sued by countries that don't have LTE? Like they did with the ipad?
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Jackarino
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You have a good point there


Daemon
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reply to Thinkdiff

said by Thinkdiff:

said by HiVolt:

I think desktops/laptops are different, because they've always been many iterations of them with the same name.

And now there will always be many iterations of the iPad with the same name.

The numbering is not sustainable. If they stuck with that, we'd have the Mac 4,194,304k instead of just "the new iMac".

It'll lead to confusion at first, but somehow the original iPod, the iPod nano, and iPod touch line has managed to survive in the consumer electronics space without numbers after the name.

When Apple only has one line of products under a name, those products are numbered (iPhone 3s/4/4s)
When apple has multiple lines of products in a line, no numbers (Mac book MacBook pro, iMac, Mac pro; iPod, iPod mini, nano, shuffle ,touch)
When apple goes from one line to multiple, the number disappears (iPad, soon to include iPad mini)
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haroldo

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Numbers add, to some extent, marketing and branding confusion. Methinks Cook, a marketing oriented guy, probably preferred no numbers, thus the iPad changeover (was it a test to see how it would sell and be perceived?)
Since iPhone is like a car, that is, people think temporary... "I like to get a new one every three years, etc"., the number of the product (4, 5, etc.) reminds them that it's getting old, just like a 2005 car starts to feel old. People would keep their cars a lot longer if they didn't have the year associated with it. No one says, "I have a 2007 refrigerator (or television), time to get a new one", but phones, cars and (i guess) milk are temporary products where the consumer likes to recycle, renew and refresh...and, oh, yeah, spend money.
iPad, iMac, MacBook, etc., are more akin to refrigerators and TVs, held for a longer period of time, so no need to be reminded (nagged) that the product is becoming ancient and need of replacement.
The iPad lack of number was a bold marketing decision.
Just a few wild guesses, however, I took a couple of courses in marketing a few decades ago and learned only a little...and forgot most of it anyway.



ptrowski
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reply to haroldo

So far a bigger screen is not enough to have me saying I will get it. There just doesn't seem to be any must have improvements in it.



HiVolt
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said by ptrowski:

So far a bigger screen is not enough to have me saying I will get it. There just doesn't seem to be any must have improvements in it.

I'll wait a bit, because there wont be a JB for a while anyway. There are some things I won't give up for a shiny new phone... I'm happy the iPhone 4 lasted me two years.


ptrowski
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said by HiVolt:

said by ptrowski:

So far a bigger screen is not enough to have me saying I will get it. There just doesn't seem to be any must have improvements in it.

I'll wait a bit, because there wont be a JB for a while anyway. There are some things I won't give up for a shiny new phone... I'm happy the iPhone 4 lasted me two years.

Very true. A jailbreak is a must.
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J E F F
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I'm holding out until the 6....still go another 16 months on my contract anyway...and iPhone 6 (to be named simply iPhone) will be about 50% faster than the iPhone 5..
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haroldo

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said by J E F F:

I'm holding out until the 6....

Not 5S?


J E F F
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said by haroldo:

said by J E F F:

I'm holding out until the 6....

Not 5S?

I figure the 5S will be available in May or June of 2013. My contract expires in January 2014, so that is just after the iPhone release date.
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DrModem
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I'm up for an upgrade but we'll have to see how compelling the new phone is first. Otherwise I'm happy to keep my 4S...



darcilicious
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reply to haroldo

I'm on an iPhone 4 and have already started working on the hubby about an upgrade...
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Thaler
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reply to haroldo

Somehow I just picture Samsung sitting outside Apple with a loaded patent shotgun, just waiting for this press release.

Is it the right thing to do? Hell no - only the consumers lose in this fight. But it is the game of Thermonuclear War that Apple asked for.



Alcohol
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Makes sense. Samsung owns a shit ton of LTE patents. But Apple has been buying up LTE patents of their own from various companies.

»www.slashgear.com/iphone-5-prepa···4245915/

I don't see an injunction being grated since these patents are probably under FRAND. Apple already started paying Motorola, they might end up with a cross license deal with samsung.
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MEDIAN2k3
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reply to haroldo

I have purposely kept one line on my account without contract in expectation for this day, if its worth it I will purchase online and happily sign another 2 years with ATT.

Their LTE service is not so bad at all.

I have a no name brand LTE smartphone with them now and its pretty damn fast.
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HiVolt
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I wish the contracts here were 2 years... All the freakin blood sucking companies here that offer the iPhone are 3 year contracts... Or purchase outright from Apple at $650+



haroldo

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said by HiVolt:

I wish the contracts here were 2 years... All the freakin blood sucking companies here that offer the iPhone are 3 year contracts... Or purchase outright from Apple at $650+

The "blood sucking companies" (???) are giving you a great deal.
It's the manufacturer that sets the price...NOT the telcos.
If you have a complaint with any blood sucker out there...look no further than Culpertino...they're the ones who are charging $650+. As it is, local bell is making it cheaper for you to make the initial purchase.
Your complaints against the bells are unfounded....these are loss leaders for them. The more units they sell, the lower their earnings.


HiVolt
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said by haroldo:

The "blood sucking companies" (???) are giving you a great deal.
It's the manufacturer that sets the price...NOT the telcos.
If you have a complaint with any blood sucker out there...look no further than Culpertino...they're the ones who are charging $650+. As it is, local bell is making it cheaper for you to make the initial purchase.
Your complaints against the bells are unfounded....these are loss leaders for them. The more units they sell, the lower their earnings.

You obviously don't know much about Canadian telecom...

The terms are 3 years for an top notch phone like an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy, as well as for crap low end phones if you want them for $0...
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Octavean
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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

I wish the contracts here were 2 years... All the freakin blood sucking companies here that offer the iPhone are 3 year contracts... Or purchase outright from Apple at $650+

Well you could always buy the phone outright,.....as you said

I personally dont see a problem with that option and I'm glad its there to take advantage of. Subsidizing is a great option too especially if you get some sort of damage / loss / theft coverage,….

I mean the key here is options,....


HiVolt
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I don't mind the option of subsidy, but 3 years is a lot, especially in the modern product cycle of phones.



haroldo

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reply to HiVolt

The US companies would love to move to three year cycles. We're it not for staggering, they'd do so in a heartbeat.
AT&T's contract (with Apple) is up first, if they go to a three year cycle, Verizon will steal their market share (advertising a two year deal), so AT&T wont...and then when Verizon's deal is up, they wont change because they're afraid of losing market share to AT&T...kind of a brilliant unintended (intended?) consequence of giving AT&T exclusivity.
In any event, as you (and others have) said, you can always pay the true price on the phone. In fact, if you do, you can probably upgrade every year or so and peddle on eBay the old phone for a net cost of ~$100/year to have the latest and greatest. YMMV.



Nezmo
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reply to haroldo

I'm not up for renewal until May although I could get partial discount before then. May suits me fine. The 4S is great and even if the 5 is compelling to me, waiting gives the accessory market time to settle down with the alleged new dock connector. I have so many things my phone connects to I'd like to see what adapters etc come out. It's hard to see how an adapter will stay in keeping with the slickness of how some accessories connect now. I envision a big ole dongle thingy between my stuff and the phone/cord. Yuck. Just bought a new charger and cord for the car too.
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