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bobrk
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Re: Sept. 12 invites for iPhone 5? release...

There are numerous rumors floating out there that they are covering this issues with $10 adapters, like they did with the MacBook Pro Retinas.

»arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/ap···dapters/



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Just like when they made pin-out changes... we bought adapters (used with varying degrees of success...)
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What sucks is that apparently only Apple will sell them...

Though I guess after a little while there will be a flood of knockoffs from china.



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Yup, so the pin connector change is just a way to make a boat load of more cash. $10 for an adapter. $19 for a cable? I'll start greasing now for this shafting I guess.

I shouldn't pre-judge but I'm having a hard time seeing how an adapter will work in accessories where the iPhone sits in the device. Surely now the thing will sit up higher and maybe not even fit at all. I guess if rumours are true that the phone width is unchanged problems may be limited but that adapter must have to take up space.

I realize things have to change sometimes but when Apple has the ecosystem wrapped-up and then does something like this it smells to me. Telling me it allows for another 0.1mm reduction in phone width ain't gonna fly.
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»www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/329799···ts-claim

quote:
A bizarre and troubling story has come from China today. Both The Shanghai Daily and the CNR News radio station have reported that up to several thousand Chinese students were pulled out of school and into Foxconn to "work on the iPhone 5."
Excellent. This means we will get the iphone in time so start camping outside the stores now!!!!
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haroldo

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The adapter change is because... of the current 30 (??) wires, I believe, 10 (more or less) are no longer used. In addition (not an expert here) there might be enhanced functionality with newer wires, etc.
Change is good.
Yeah, $10 here or $20 there is a nuisance, but Apple has always been a premium product, it's the cost of doing business.



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said by haroldo:

The adapter change is because... of the current 30 (??) wires, I believe, 10 (more or less) are no longer used. In addition (not an expert here) there might be enhanced functionality with newer wires, etc.
Change is good.
Yeah, $10 here or $20 there is a nuisance, but Apple has always been a premium product, it's the cost of doing business.

When Monoprice can sell high quality cables for $2 that others sell for $20+, what's that cost of doing business again? Premium product is one thing. A flat out gouge is another.

Enhanced functionality with fewer connections? Hmmm. I do get how they will market this change. I'm not interested in marketing excuses.
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I bought a $2 usb charging cable for my iPhone from monoprice and the thing literally fell apart in three weeks (the plastic case that connects to the dock side). I'm not hard on my cables either, never had anything like that happen before. In fact, I still have many of the original Apple cables from years ago -- but I had to replace a stolen one and one that my cat chewed up

Went with the RadioShack (aka Gigaware) version most recently and like that they don't have locking mechanism on the sides -- they just slip in and out of the connector nicely.
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said by darcilicious:

I bought a $2 usb charging cable for my iPhone from monoprice and the thing literally fell apart in three weeks (the plastic case that connects to the dock side). I'm not hard on my cables either, never had anything like that happen before. In fact, I still have many of the original Apple cables from years ago -- but I had to replace a stolen one and one that my cat chewed up

Went with the RadioShack (aka Gigaware) version most recently and like that they don't have locking mechanism on the sides -- they just slip in and out of the connector nicely.

No doubt Monoprice carries crap in some cases. In my case I have bought about two dozen HDMI cables of various lengths. They are hefty and seem good quality. Then again, they are not constantly unplugged. But in general I think Monoprice carries good stuff and at reasonable prices.

But again, $20 for a USB cable is gouging regardless. And if Apple intends to lock down that market for a while it doesn't take a genius to work out their plan.

I have many older cables from Apple too. Most are coming apart where the cable joins the plug. I never unplug by pulling on the cable - only ever the plug itself.
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Just got a WSJ alert.

Apple is in talks to license music for a custom-radio service similar to the popular one operated by Pandora Media, in what would be a bid by the hardware maker to expand its dominance in online music.

Such services create virtual "stations" that play music similar to a song or artist of the user's choosing, either on Web browsers or smartphone apps. Apple's service would work on its sprawling hardware family, including the iPhone, iPads and Mac computers.
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said by Alcohol:

Just got a WSJ alert.

Apple is in talks to license music for a custom-radio service similar to the popular one operated by Pandora Media, in what would be a bid by the hardware maker to expand its dominance in online music.

Such services create virtual "stations" that play music similar to a song or artist of the user's choosing, either on Web browsers or smartphone apps. Apple's service would work on its sprawling hardware family, including the iPhone, iPads and Mac computers.

I'm always curious about new 'radio' services. With Pandora and the plethora of other services that stream radio from all over the world I wonder about saturation. I guess this could be another move to make everything Apple. Ping flopped didn't it? I wonder how this would go if the news is true.
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said by Nezmo:

said by Alcohol:

Just got a WSJ alert.

Apple is in talks to license music for a custom-radio service similar to the popular one operated by Pandora Media, in what would be a bid by the hardware maker to expand its dominance in online music.

Such services create virtual "stations" that play music similar to a song or artist of the user's choosing, either on Web browsers or smartphone apps. Apple's service would work on its sprawling hardware family, including the iPhone, iPads and Mac computers.

I'm always curious about new 'radio' services. With Pandora and the plethora of other services that stream radio from all over the world I wonder about saturation. I guess this could be another move to make everything Apple. Ping flopped didn't it? I wonder how this would go if the news is true.

They should focus on spotify instead of pandora. Pandora is too random.
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said by Alcohol:

»www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/329799···ts-claim

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A bizarre and troubling story has come from China today. Both The Shanghai Daily and the CNR News radio station have reported that up to several thousand Chinese students were pulled out of school and into Foxconn to "work on the iPhone 5."
Excellent. This means we will get the iphone in time so start camping outside the stores now!!!!

More:

»www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=511136

THOUSANDS of students in an east China city are being forced to work at a Foxconn plant after classes were suspended at the beginning of the new semester, it has been revealed.

Students from Huai'an in Jiangsu Province were driven to a factory in the city run by Taiwan's Foxconn Technology Company after the plant couldn't find sufficient workers for the production of Apple's much-anticipated iPhone 5, they said in online posts.

A student majoring in computing at the Huaiyin Institute of Technology said 200 students from her school had been driven to the factory.

They started work on the production line last Thursday and were being paid 1,550 yuan (US$243.97) a month for working six days a week, she said.

But they had to pay hundreds of yuan for food and accommodation, she said in an online post under the name of mengniuIQ84.

Several other students from at least five colleges backed up what she said, saying they were being forced to work for 12 hours a day.


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Haha.. Nice forced slave work instead of education... Good Job Apple.



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To be fair it's not directly Apple. It's their biggest supplier Foxxcon. But Apple is partly to be blamed for not keeping watch on their biggest supplier. It's normal in the manufacturing industry to monitor the working conditions at your partners plants. Foxxcon has a history of this. Remember the suicides and the contracts forbidding people from killing themselves?
Apple reduces the business with Samsung due to the lawsuits, but continues to grow it's business with Foxxcon »news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57438···w-plant/
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Apple has bazillions... Why don't they build their own factory, their own fab plant? 100 billion in cash buys a lot...


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said by HiVolt:

Speaking of that alleged new dock connector... Its absolutely idiotic.. The pins on the cable are exposed, and if you leave it connected to the USB on a charger or computer, and something metal touches it, it's a short circuit and a fire hazard...

I've no idea who in the world thought that would be a good idea...

It's extremely easy to check for short circuit conditions in a digital circuit and then refuse to provide current. USB already provides that capacity.
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they have bazillions because they outsource...what ever they're doing...they're doing right and they shouldn't change a thing



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said by haroldo:

they have bazillions because they outsource...what ever they're doing...they're doing right and they shouldn't change a thing

Exactly. Why should Americans care about the inferior chinese children. Let them suffer as long as we get our new toys on time.
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said by HiVolt:

Apple has bazillions... Why don't they build their own factory, their own fab plant? 100 billion in cash buys a lot...

Building a factory doesn't make sense, but they should look at how the auto industry manages their suppliers in asia. It's very systematic. They have random visits to their suppliers (suppliers only find out on the morning of). Even if the supplier isn't exclusively doing your products, they still get to dictate working conditions and safety standards.. Or they lose their contract.

Ofcourse the working conditions are a lot harsher for the auto industry but I don't see why Apple can't keep a team in China that monitors Foxxcon.

Chinese kids are being pulled out of school to work on the iphone. There is no way Apple doesn't know about this. But i'm sure their PR team is going to spread the same bullshit lies like they always do.
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said by Alcohol:

said by haroldo:

they have bazillions because they outsource...what ever they're doing...they're doing right and they shouldn't change a thing

Exactly. Why should Americans care about the inferior chinese children. Let them suffer as long as we get our new toys on time.

.. and Apple get's their profits and shareholders get their slice.
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said by bobrk:

Frankly I'm sad they're calling it the 5. I thought they would do New iPhone like they did with the last iPad.

Most people I know call the "New iPad" iPad 3
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said by Kearnstd:

said by bobrk:

Frankly I'm sad they're calling it the 5. I thought they would do New iPhone like they did with the last iPad.

Most people I know call the "New iPad" iPad 3

True, but not Apple.


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said by Alcohol:

said by HiVolt:

Apple has bazillions... Why don't they build their own factory, their own fab plant? 100 billion in cash buys a lot...

Building a factory doesn't make sense, but they should look at how the auto industry manages their suppliers in asia. It's very systematic. They have random visits to their suppliers (suppliers only find out on the morning of). Even if the supplier isn't exclusively doing your products, they still get to dictate working conditions and safety standards.. Or they lose their contract.

Ofcourse the working conditions are a lot harsher for the auto industry but I don't see why Apple can't keep a team in China that monitors Foxxcon.

Chinese kids are being pulled out of school to work on the iphone. There is no way Apple doesn't know about this. But i'm sure their PR team is going to spread the same bullshit lies like they always do.

Looks like the number is 32,000 children if anyone wants an update to the story.

»www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/···-school/
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Customers probably just want to know when their phones will arrive.



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Can't wait for tomorrow!



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Can someone make this the official thread to keep everything nice n tidy?
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I'm sure duplicate threads will be locked (if you need to, click on the "hey mods" link at the bottom of the post that starts a new thread)...
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said by Nezmo:

Yup, so the pin connector change is just a way to make a boat load of more cash. $10 for an adapter. $19 for a cable? I'll start greasing now for this shafting I guess.

I shouldn't pre-judge but I'm having a hard time seeing how an adapter will work in accessories where the iPhone sits in the device. Surely now the thing will sit up higher and maybe not even fit at all. I guess if rumours are true that the phone width is unchanged problems may be limited but that adapter must have to take up space.

I realize things have to change sometimes but when Apple has the ecosystem wrapped-up and then does something like this it smells to me. Telling me it allows for another 0.1mm reduction in phone width ain't gonna fly.

Wouldn't it be funny if the "new adapter" thing was part of their disinformation campaign... But I doubt it. Sigh.
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said by Alcohol:

Looks like the number is 32,000 children if anyone wants an update to the story.

»www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/···-school/

The article says 'students' not 'children'. The NY Times article linked in your link suggests the students are young adults.