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Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | FBI Has Explaining to Do? How about AntiSec Let's put the blame where it mostly lies - with another lowlife hacking group. |
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 rrw1313Premium
join:2001-03-05
Taylor, PA
1 edit | I'm not sure who I distrust more. The group that's telling me the FBI keeps this info, or the FBI for having it without my knowledge. Why do they need it and what other info does the FBI have on me?
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 crazediamondMaybe you shouldn't be so proud?Premium
join:2002-01-19
Atlanta, GA | reply to Linklist
Right, it's antisec's fault that the FBI has this information.
Wait, what? |
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said by Linklist:Let's put the blame where it mostly lies - with another lowlife hacking group.
...for exposing the potentially illegal things a government is doing...
Sometimes people need to be shown in bold some things, or they won't believe it. Hell the vast majority of people thinks the Federal Reserve Bank is a government institution and wouldn't conceive otherwise... |
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Greenville, TX
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No, the FBI has explaining to do, not them.
AntiSec has done quite a few impressive jobs. If you disagree with their point of view, and assuming you actually read through the articles linked...
To sum it up: The FBI, a government agency, had a computer that was exploited and found a large amount of apple devices.
My question isn't why did AntiSec they do what they did - who cares, they do what they want to do... |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to Linklist
said by Linklist:Let's put the blame where it mostly lies - with another lowlife hacking group. I disagree. It is our duty as citizens to keep the government honest.
This incident would never have happened if the FBI had not had this information. I demand to know why a government agency has this information, without my consent, and without any probable cause.
And yes, any time it is an incident involving government, I always presume the government guilty until it proves that it is not, because 99% of the time, it is.
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said by LightS:No, the FBI has explaining to do, not them.
AntiSec has done quite a few impressive jobs. If you disagree with their point of view, and assuming you actually read through the articles linked...
To sum it up: The FBI, a government agency, had a computer that was exploited and found a large amount of apple devices.
My question isn't why did they do what they did - who cares, they do what they want to do...
I am sure there is some risk involved by the FBI to answer the question "why".
Taking the tinfoil hat off, 12 million isn't every iPhone in the world, or the US.
»www.learn-cocos2d.com/2012/03/io···support/
Granted, who knows how legit the above link is for sales statistics, but we all know that the interwebs never lies. But seriously, 12 million in iPhones, iPads, and iPods from god knows when is probably not every single iOS device in the US. Article is FUD. |
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LightSPremium
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Greenville, TX | Sorry - I edited my post, I omitted a word by accident.
Although, I agree there's no way that's every apple device. however, I don't like the fact that they have it... |
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I agree. That doesn't mean hacking should be legal, but it does mean that the responsibility should lie with whoever has your personal info to properly secure it. This also means keeping it out of the wrong hands. Sometimes the wrong hands is the Government. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by fifty nine:I agree. That doesn't mean hacking should be legal, but it does mean that the responsibility should lie with whoever has your personal info to properly secure it. This also means keeping it out of the wrong hands. Sometimes the wrong hands is the Government. If it was up to me, I'd give AntiSec a pardon on this one. It is worth it considering they exposed a massive abuse of power.
Sadly though this is a "bipartisan" issue, in which both parties agree that the FBI should be allowed to have this information. I'd love to see the FBI chief brought in front of Congress to explain the actions of his agency.
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join:2003-07-03
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Wow, there you are again defending the Obama administration. You must really love the guy. |
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AntiSec is any better by releasing it? |
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blushrts
join:2001-01-06
New Cumberland, PA | reply to pnh102
"This incident would never have happened if the FBI had not had this information. I demand to know why a government agency has this information, without my consent, and without any probable cause."
"Patriot" Act? |
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For exposing the abuses of our government? Sure, they are better.
See that is the thing about lying.
1.) It takes a lot more work to cover up the lie than it does to explain the truth and deal with it.
2.) The truth will always come out eventually. Then more lying trying to continue to justify it puts up back at #1.
There are very few things our government has to actually do in secret. There are even fewer things that need to remain a secret after they have been done. That even applies to our National Security and quest to save the children. |
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crazediamondMaybe you shouldn't be so proud?Premium
join:2002-01-19
Atlanta, GA | reply to battleop
Look, Romney's big fan up there said the blame lies with antisec. Unless antisec put this data on the FBI laptop, the blame lies with the FBI.
Romney's big fan is trying the "hey look over there" defense. As someone else responded, apparently because he's a big fan of the Obama administration as well. |
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| said by crazediamond:Look, Romney's big fan up there said the blame lies with antisec. Unless antisec put this data on the FBI laptop, the blame lies with the FBI.
Romney's big fan is trying the "hey look over there" defense. As someone else responded, apparently because he's a big fan of the Obama administration as well.
Two sides, one coin. |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Linklist
FBI categorically denies they were source of data |
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Re: FBI Has Explaining to Do? How about AntiSec "For exposing the abuses of our government? Sure, they are better."
There may be 12 Million people who will disagree with you. AntiSec has no justification in releasing the contents of what they found.
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 Rogue WolfReally Ties The Room Together
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY | reply to Linklist
Re: FBI categorically denies they were source of data It's a seriously sad state of affairs when, given conflicting statements between a government agency and a hacker group, I honestly don't know which one to believe.
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Evanston, IL | reply to battleop
Re: FBI Has Explaining to Do? How about AntiSec They also have no obligation in protecting it. |
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