 tshirtPremium,MVM
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Re: lot of data said by TamaraB: Unless you returned it to it's owner, which is what essentially has taken place here.
Really? They seem to be suggesting public release which certainly won't help the privacy of the individuals to whom the info ID's, even IF it demonstrates the validity of their claim to have hacked that data.
No one likes what the FBI has done, some of it may be usefully security wise, but the secure handling of that info is a paramount duty so IF the FBI really lost it, that's a crime of it's own (aren't they now required to notify each user of its loss?)
Whistleblowers are protected for reveling a problem, but not if they found the problem by criminal means outside the scope of their normal employment.
something similar should apply to third parties, no matter how good their intentions (or not) the hacking itself is still a crime. |
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kudos:3 | But the privacy of the individuals was already breached. At least now people know about it. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
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| MAYBE data taken as they claim, MAYBE they got it elsewhere, and are blaming the FBI (makes a good story) MAYBE they have little or no data (it's most a story, for the PR value)
But suppose it happened as they say.
I would liken that to breaking into each house on a road, eventually I may find evidence of some illegal or unsavory actions in some house. reporting it is the right thing to do, but doesn't justify my break-ins.
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| said by tshirt:
I would liken that to breaking into each house on a road, eventually I may find evidence of some illegal or unsavory actions in some house. reporting it is the right thing to do, but doesn't justify my break-ins.
Actually, that has happened many times over in court. As long as the one who committed the crime was not the lawyer, the person tends to get a pardon on their actions in return for bringing vital evidence to a case. (Not every time though depending on how severe the crime was)
The problem here is this haxing group going public rather than saving it as evidence. They are trying to play a public judge and jury themselves without having any legal counsel doing research into what they have. 
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tshirtPremium,MVM
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| It MIGHT be used to excuse that directly connected crime, but a continuous crime spree?
Isn't that exactly what they are accusing the FBI of?* That is thousands of illegal searches looking for that needle in the haystack/for evidence of more serious crimes?
*we can't say if the FBI action is in fact justified or legal/illegal due to the secercy of the action if any. we can certainly say that the hackers are operating outside the law, and evidence they present is suspect (or should be) because it is also the justification of their cause.
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ThalerPremium
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Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | said by tshirt: Isn't that exactly what they are accusing the FBI of?* That is thousands of illegal searches looking for that needle in the haystack/for evidence of more serious crimes?
Problem is, one of these groups is a random bunch of assholes that occasionally do something productive in their troll sprees. The other group is a government agency rifling through my junk in a questionably legal manner.
I don't expect much from anonymous internet denizens. I should be able to expect someone I fund (albeit through taxes) to not screw me in return. Maybe I just expect too much. |
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