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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

reply to Telco

Re: This Is News?

said by Telco:

Much like the aviation industry, the private telco sector has yet gain colluded and failed Americans.

Difference is: Airplane fails and people die. Failure to get affordable, quality Internet connectivity: Not so deadly.

said by Telco:

While the rest of the world overtakes us in yet another industry we effectively co-invented, ...

Co-invented? For much of it: I don't think there's any "co-".

said by Telco:

I'd love to see a RWer explain this one, considering you beat on daily about the free market and my favorite lie of 'letting the consumer decide'.

Would libertarian do, in place of a RWer? (Tho, if you're a "liberal," which I'm guessing you are, you can't tell the difference.)

I explain it this way: I feel subscription TV is too expensive for what you get. So I don't buy it. I feel smart phone data plans are too expensive for what you get. So I don't buy it. I do feel that SOHO business class Internet connectivity is worth what they want, so I do buy that. If I didn't feel so: I wouldn't buy that, either.

The model appears to be working for me.

We are getting screwed, tho. Most people aren't aware of it. Even if they were: Most are too lazy and short-sighted to do anything about it. (I.e.: Stop buying it.) My overseas friends, family and colleagues are flabbergasted by what we pay for what we don't get, here in the U.S.

Jim


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Sure, you can choose to not buy broadband.

Or you can get raked over the coals, due to the lack of competition and choices and "Failure of the market" (IE Collusion of Big Business and Government.)

His point exactly.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to jseymour
»Re: I don't trust that 'handy tool'

It's not hard to avoid smart phone data plans if you don't own a smart phone.



jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

said by rradina:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27490614-I-don-t-trust-that-handy-tool-

It's not hard to avoid smart phone data plans if you don't own a smart phone.

True, but I'm missing your point.

Jim

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

said by jseymour:

I feel smart phone data plans are too expensive for what you get. So I don't buy it.

If you don't trust smart phones, it's difficult to believe your statement about avoiding smart phone data plans because they are too expensive.

That's like complaining about the price of natural gas but you don't trust gas so you own an all-electric house or complaining about the price of water but you don't trust the public water supply and you drilled your own well.


jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

said by rradina:

said by jseymour:

I feel smart phone data plans are too expensive for what you get. So I don't buy it.

If you don't trust smart phones, it's difficult to believe your statement about avoiding smart phone data plans because they are too expensive.

What possible motive would I have for saying such a thing if it wasn't true?

What I actually wrote in that thread was:
quote:
This story is one of the reasons I've not been particularly anxious to own a "smart" device.

I actually have many reasons for not yet owning a smartphone:

• The cost of the plans and, to a somewhat lesser extent, the devices
• The increased security risk in having my private/personal data on a network-connected device such as a smartphone
• The increased security risk of having my private/personal data mirrored to or backed up on cloud servers, rather than a server or desktop under my control
• The relatively lousy consumer satisfaction numbers for smartphones vs. "dumb" ones
• The poor-to-non-existant PIM functionality of most of today's "smart" phones
• Being unwilling to spend another $5-$10/mo. for insurance, the almost paralyzing fear that it'd be lost, stolen or destroyed

The plan cost is the biggie, tho. I could probably talk myself into living with the rest of it. I guess I'm just odd that way, but, to me, $1000+/year for a smartphone with a data plan is a lot of money.

said by rradina:

That's like complaining about ... the price of water but you don't trust the public water supply and you drilled your own well.

The price of water around here is exorbitant, but I'm not complaining because I'm on my own well

Jim

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

Again, *sigh*, forest for the trees.

Until you own one and derive benefit or detriment, your comments must be considered of the Monday morning QB variety.


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