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Hahausuck
Premium
join:2003-12-14
kudos:2
reply to hrickpa

Re: Neighbors satelite dish is overhanging on my roof

Reminds me of a time years ago when I installed a yagi on the side of a customers building to get service for Internet.

The yagi was almost six feet long and it overhung an ally which Apperantly was "owned" by the neighbors. They bitched and threatened to sue the customer of ours so I had to go out and move it. Never mind it took me mos of the day to anchor it with tapcons at the top of a 28 foot extension ladder.

Jerk.
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J.E.H.


Bruschi
Premium
join:2001-04-16
Cape Cod
kudos:1
reply to hrickpa
Take out the sawzall and cut that lnb off. I would. Then let dish deal with it.
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Professional student pilot!


Juggernaut
Irreverent or irrelevant?
Premium
join:2006-09-05
Kelowna, BC
kudos:2
reply to alkizmo
said by alkizmo:

You can ask for a change of menu. There are so many menus.

BTW if slander is spoken and libel is written (Your words, not mine), then answer me this: Are you reading this question, or hearing it? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN

I think you mean, 'venue'.

FYI, you didn't libel in this post. You asked a question.
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Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.


Bruschi
Premium
join:2001-04-16
Cape Cod
kudos:1
reply to Hahausuck
said by Hahausuck:

Reminds me of a time years ago when I installed a yagi on the side of a customers building to get service for Internet.

The yagi was almost six feet long and it overhung an ally which Apperantly was "owned" by the neighbors. They bitched and threatened to sue the customer of ours so I had to go out and move it. Never mind it took me mos of the day to anchor it with tapcons at the top of a 28 foot extension ladder.

Jerk.

So you trespass on somebody's property and hes the jerk. Thats one of the problems today is everybody feels entitled to whatever they want.
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Professional student pilot!

hrickpa

join:2001-06-07
Reading, PA
reply to hrickpa
the worst part about it, a subcontrator for dish installed it right after my roof was replaced. their other dish they have on the 3rd floor the base of that one looks like a tarball landed on the base of the direct tv dish


dolphins
Clean Up Our Oceans
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join:2001-08-22
Westville, NJ
kudos:7
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to Hahausuck
My brother had a run-in with some Dish Network idiots about a year ago. My brother cancelled the service and the idiot that came out to remove the dish dropped his ladder on my brother's car. He left without saying a word but a neighbor was a witness. It took months to get reimbursed. What's really messed up is he had to go to court 50 miles away because that's where the company is based. I always thought that where the accident takes place has jurisdiction but I guess I was wrong.
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Stop The Mindless Killings Stop Over Fishing


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1
reply to Juggernaut
said by Juggernaut:

FYI, you didn't libel in this post. You asked a question.

You sir, are some kind of law person.
On this "issue", my "cause of action" is to "rest" on my pillow "case" now.


Juggernaut
Irreverent or irrelevant?
Premium
join:2006-09-05
Kelowna, BC
kudos:2
I 'rest' my case.

You plead 'indefensibility' of your statements. And, I'm no lawyer.

hrickpa

join:2001-06-07
Reading, PA
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
reply to hrickpa
the dish network dish is attached to a sewer vent pipe that is brittle. that i am also worried that in a bad wind storm the pipe would break and fall and dammage my roof.
their other dish that is on their 3rd floor roof did get knocked down in a bad windstorm the year before
my neighbors have both Dish Network and Direct TV

the dish network dish is loose. it is wobbly


Nick_L
Premium
join:2003-01-22
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to hrickpa
There is no way that a dish of that diameter is blocking your OTA broadcast reception (unless the reception is EXTREMELY weak to begin with). OTA is NOT a line of sight type of broadcast. I'm surprised the antenna experts here haven't chimed in yet.

If it really is a problem, your best course of action is to continue your assault on Dish Network. While petty, your complaint is likely legally sound. Demand to speak to a supervisor (politely but firmly). Suggest to them that you will retain a lawyer if they do not remedy the situation to your satisfaction. That should get them moving.


Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
kudos:2
reply to hrickpa
said by hrickpa:

My neighbor had Dish Network installed. The installer attached the dish to a cast iron pipe the LNB is over hanging over my Roof
I called dish network They would not move it. i also asked my neighbors the refuse to move It. what can i do to make them move the dish the white roof is my property the red is the Neighbors roof.

Obviously the dish is not the issue, it is just an example of a larger neighbor dispute. It is not causing a problem for your OTA. (though I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the installer somehow damaged your antenna line during the install) And even if you go through the process of complaining enough to get it moved, they will likely just move it the few inches back to clear your part of the roof, still in the line of site from your antenna. (again, not that it is actually causing an issue)

To answer your question, what you can "do about it" is learn to get along with your neighbors, and stop trying to pick a fight over stupid stuff. There are no winners in a war with the neighbors, eventually both sides suffer. Legal or otherwise.


hortnut
Huh?

join:2005-09-25
PNW
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to hrickpa
In your first post and other posts, you bring up many other underlying issues not included in the OP.

More photos of the OTA Antenna, roof and other concerns will be useful to those following this thread and trying to help. How are we to provide you with concrete answers without the evidence?

So for my $.02, photos, photos, photos and more are needed.

Otherwise this seems to be a petty issue/s.

A little story, that some have addressed in their posts:
I used to have acreage and one of my neighbors encroached on part of it by a great deal - not inches but tens of feet. I was there 15 years before he bought his property. Instead of getting a coronary with a non-cooperative neighbor [got along with all the others in my area very well], sent a cordial letter, certified and registered, exerting and protecting my rights. I did so to prevent the neighbor from exerting an eminent domain [think that is the legal jargon] claim later and then claim my property as his. I followed with the same letter every two years.

Two years later, he had a number of problems and needed my help, very badly. I had the machinery and skills to fix his problems and did so without charge, even though it took me over 7 hours. he never offered and I never asked. Figured that he would get "it" someday. Then his well pump went out, I allowed him to hook up to my water system for a week, even though it strained my irrigation setup. I had verbal/handshake agreements with other neighbors for similar things. When initially presented with such an arrangement, he brushed me off and was quite rude. I figured Karma would bite him in the butt some day and it did, he eventually needed my stuff. And he eventually realized that living out in the country, one needed to have great relationships with those around you.

hth


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
reply to hrickpa
If his Directv dish is "Loose and Wobbly" then your neighbor is not able to receive the Directv satellite signal. The alignment of the dish is critical and movement like that would render it useless.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
reply to hrickpa
One of the reasons why Bell ExpressVu does not allow installers to go on a roof. They can install from a ladder on the side of the building, but can't attach a dish to a standpipe or roof beyond their reach and a cable run on a roof is a definate "no no".
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
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I've noticed that Directv now is installing the dish on a roof. I don't know when they started doing it because mine and my other neighbors are in the yard. My next door neighbors recent installation is on the roof with IMO the most ugly roof mount imaginable.
Expand your moderator at work

lcnoble

join:2006-11-11
Nancy, KY
reply to hrickpa

Re: Neighbors satelite dish is overhanging on my roof

Grounding, codes, and pipe security? I doubt the pipe is steel, probably just clay or iron. Pipe strength? I would not like electricity or lightening rods around flammable sewer gas! I wonder what would happen to the pipe if wind took off with the dish? As for loss of the OTA, the installers may have cut the OTA antenna cable or used the OTA cable for the LNB cable. Maybe someone realigned the OTA antenna! The original post has valid concerns.


Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Germantown, OH
kudos:2
reply to hrickpa
said by hrickpa:

The problem is it is in line with my antenna for my over the air DTV and blocking my signal. when it was put in i can no longer to recieve the channels that are over the air.

Bull ! No way it would block your signal.
said by hrickpa:

there is already a war over my Wi-Fi
they want access to my internet

Simple solution is to tell them "I don't have wireless internet. It must be another neighbor's WiFi."

unami99

join:2008-04-10
Norristown, PA
reply to hrickpa
said by hrickpa:

there is already a war over my Wi-Fi
they want access to my internet

They are upset that you are not giving them free internet access that you pay for? That is pretty crazy. Who do they think they are?

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4
reply to Hall
said by Hall:

said by hrickpa:

The problem is it is in line with my antenna for my over the air DTV and blocking my signal. when it was put in i can no longer to recieve the channels that are over the air.

Bull ! No way it would block your signal.

maybe his OTA is too weak to begin with and he's just passing on the blame to that dish...

maybe using a better antenna will do the trick for him...

said by hrickpa:

there is already a war over my Wi-Fi
they want access to my internet

how can neighbor's have a war over wi-fi...really...was it like you seeing their devices and confronting them about it??

it's either you don't know how to secure your wi-fi or you just leave it open hoping nobody in their right minds will use it. que horror!


DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
Premium
join:2000-05-14
Martinsburg, WV
reply to hrickpa
Treat it like an over-hanging tree branch.


treeman
Premium
join:2000-07-15
Mcgaheysville, VA
reply to hrickpa
Call Dish network not the company that installed it if they are a RSP. You need to call Dish and tell them how this dish is installed. The way it is installed fails QAS standards, they will most likely remove the dish as they are not allowed to penatrate a tile, or metal roof


Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom
said by treeman:

Call Dish network not the company that installed it if they are a RSP. You need to call Dish and tell them how this dish is installed. The way it is installed fails QAS standards, they will most likely remove the dish as they are not allowed to penatrate a tile, or metal roof

Why? The OP has nothing to do with where it's physically mounted on someone Else's roof. Besides I think it was stated it was mounted to a sewer vent which already penetrates the roof.

hrickpa

join:2001-06-07
Reading, PA
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
reply to hrickpa
I had called Dish they would not do anything the installation was not in their system.

After the dish network dish was put there
I have been having the following problems
1. having issues with Wi-Fi connetions in the room below the dish
2. having problem with cell service on the 1st floor below the dish
I did not have these issues before it was put there.
The pipe it is attached to is clay and the coax cable runs across the ridge to the roof and goes though the window frame on the 3rd floor. My Roofer will not finish the roof until my neighbors move the Dish and the coax cable. the only problem is they refuse to move the cable and dish. my city is no help.

A friend of mine has a simmular problem her neighbor has a 20ft horizontal antenna on his roof that is over my friends roof. my friends Roof needs to be repaired but every roofer she calls, they refuse to work on because of the large antenna. she has been trying to have the antenna taken down.
The city where i live in will not do anything.

"Always check your cable and satelite bill to make shure that you are not paying for boxes that you don't have "


Ken
Premium,MVM
join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN
said by hrickpa:

My Roofer will not finish the roof until my neighbors move the Dish and the coax cable.

I'm not sure why your roofer can't just work around it. However the proper thing for you to do would be to send your neighbor a letter certified mail informing them that their dish extends over on your property and is in the way of your roofer redoing your roof. It should say they have 30 days to move the dish so it is not extending over the property line or you will move it for them. That doesn't mean that after 30 days you can just go rip it off and throw it on the ground breaking it though. I would like to point out your roofer extended your roofing across that same property line and onto their roof, so if you really push the dish issue they might push back.


Draiman
Let me see those devil horns in the sky

join:2012-06-01
Kill Devil Hills, NC
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

4 edits
reply to Hall
said by Hall:

said by hrickpa:

there is already a war over my Wi-Fi
they want access to my internet

Simple solution is to tell them "I don't have wireless internet. It must be another neighbor's WiFi."

Just turn off the SSID on the wifi device. It won't show up on a wifi search but it will work just the same. You just have to know the SID to connect to it going forward.

On a side note: You could turn your PC off and give them the key. Once they get onto your network you grab their mac address and ban it. They can never get on your network again with that network device. I normally go the other way. I ban all device except the mac address of the devices in my house. They could spoof a mac to get on still but my $&# if they go to that trouble you've got bigger issues.

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4
reply to hrickpa
said by hrickpa:

I had called Dish they would not do anything the installation was not in their system.

After the dish network dish was put there
I have been having the following problems
1. having issues with Wi-Fi connetions in the room below the dish
2. having problem with cell service on the 1st floor below the dish
I did not have these issues before it was put there.
The pipe it is attached to is clay and the coax cable runs across the ridge to the roof and goes though the window frame on the 3rd floor. My Roofer will not finish the roof until my neighbors move the Dish and the coax cable. the only problem is they refuse to move the cable and dish. my city is no help.

A friend of mine has a simmular problem her neighbor has a 20ft horizontal antenna on his roof that is over my friends roof. my friends Roof needs to be repaired but every roofer she calls, they refuse to work on because of the large antenna. she has been trying to have the antenna taken down.
The city where i live in will not do anything.

"Always check your cable and satelite bill to make shure that you are not paying for boxes that you don't have "

let's see....you have...

1. pesky neighbors
2. neighbors trying to steal / hack wifi
3. leaking house [wall and roof]
4. uncooperative city
5. cell issues
6. did I mention stupid, if not dangerous neighbors..

»Re: Cause more Wi-Fi theft
said by hrickpa:

I had several people knock on my door asking for the WPA key for my Wi-Fi connection. I live in a row home one side of me is an empty house the other side is my neighbors. in 2004 I shut off the Wi-Fi my neighbors had a fit over me shutting the Wi-Fi off. I move the only wireless desktop and hard wired it until upgraded my router that supported WPA/wpa2
as of right now where I live the 2.4 Ghz Wi-Fi is crowded
I am using 802.11a 5Ghz Wi-Fi WPA-AES enterprise using a free radius program and using MAC filtering. three access points one on each floor

The city where I live they want to use GPS to locate the Wi-fi connections so they can tax secured Wi-Fi

7. i forgot, stalkers too...

»wireless security
said by hrickpa:

I am having problems with someone trying to get my WPA2 key

some one had posted an ad on the internet that they were offering a $500 reward to the person to hack my WPA2 key.
The ad's were removed. I have been seeing people in a car across the street from where I live. when go outside they pull away This has been happening for a few days
on Friday April 24th some one rang my door bell, the person at my door wanted to give them my WPA2 key
i am using WPA2-PSK (AES).
the problem i have that the police here will not do anything.

in the city i live the highest crime is band-with theft and utility theft
Reading PA.

I would move if I were you....like one poster said before, it looks like you have BIG issues with neighbors


michieru
Premium
join:2009-07-25
Miami, FL
reply to hrickpa
Note to self: Avoid Reading, PA like the plague.

Just move. I live in the ghetto and I don't have those kinds of problems.


John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:8
reply to hrickpa
Turn off your SSID...

medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
kudos:4
said by John Galt:

Turn off your SSID...

he had an SSID before that said.... no free loaders

his neighbors according to him told him that it was insulting to them...lol...

my SSID is No free loaders - »Re: wireless security

»Re: wireless security
said by hrickpa:

My SSID is changed and is hidden.
and used the grc site to create a new WPA key
I still have people trying
hopefully they will give up soon or I will use 802.11a

what's stopping his stalker / freeloader / hacker neighbors from knocking again on his door and asking for both ssid and password since they know this guy has internet because he plays online games...??