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Re: Organic Food.. not as safe? said by Ian:Quick question though, when was the last time there was a produce recall in Canada due to excessive pesticides? None that I can remember.
There was also the Ottawa incident a few years back that was in all the news about strawberries having way too much pesticides. people were ending up in area hospitals with blistering on the lips and tongues and other allergic reactions.
This was about 6 years ago (+/-).
It happens...
Did you not hear of this Ottawa incident? Was on all the news at the time. Alerts were constantly being put out all summer so people would extra wash the berries. Since it wasn't too long ago, is should be findable on google... A quick search didn't show anything. Maybe a google-ninja can find it.
But that is extreme cases. But does that make lower concentrations just peachy and ok?
Lower concentrations of fat soluble DDT (and it's metabolites) won't harm you either in the short term. Should we put it on your eggs? |
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said by DKS:You really don't know how the media works. I do - and I can tell you that you're very naive as to how it works.
Want one example - dig up one major scathing article about MDG Computers exposing their unethical business practices in a major news publication where they advertised major full page spreads frequently.
Right down to influencing even local papers that distribute through Metroland/other conglomerates.
A company with a history of screwing over people for over a decade, and not one person manages to blow the whistle? I wonder why that is... |
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said by elwoodblues:That might be in community TV, not in commercial TV, I've spent enough time in it to know exactly how the system works.
That's right. Happened enough times in the states. but guess he knows all.
Also happened to Myth Busters and their RFID show 3-4 years ago that never aired. Discovery backed down and cancelled the airing of that show because the advertisers got all fired up about it
Money and advertisers pull the strings.
Quite a few examples of this that occurred. |
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said by DKS:said by Xstar_Lumini:Lol at you guys been swindled. The corporation that PAID the TV series W5 to investigate and put down the organic small farmers was Dosanto corp the world' biggest genetically modified grain supplier that is striving to PATENT the world's food supply, they are being sued by brazilian farmers right now.
Got proof? CTV and W5 don't accept money. I heard this about 2 days ago on 640 AM the John Oakley show, he's not going to lie or fabricate this, it's well-known that Mosanto sponsored the investigation and W5 accepted the "help". That's blatant conflict-of-interest if you ask me. |
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| I couldn't find anything on Google about the payment to W5 by Mosanto but I found this:
»www.ctvnews.ca/scc-ruling-means-···1.267426
(CTV network virtually cheering a Mosanto court victory over impoverished small farmers, what a coincidence that CTV is the only network in Toronto reporting this victory) |
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said by elwoodblues:said by DKS:said by elwoodblues:Technically you are correct, however they could have bought ad time on the network and fluff disguised as a news piece is created.
Seen this many times
Sales and editorial are two separate lines with different executives. The two do not cross. That might be in community TV, not in commercial TV, I've spent enough time in it to know exactly how the system works. And given that there is something called journalist ethics, the suggestion that there is a crossover (Sun Media excepted) is exaggerated.
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DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
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said by Xstar_Lumini:said by DKS:said by Xstar_Lumini:Lol at you guys been swindled. The corporation that PAID the TV series W5 to investigate and put down the organic small farmers was Dosanto corp the world' biggest genetically modified grain supplier that is striving to PATENT the world's food supply, they are being sued by brazilian farmers right now.
Got proof? CTV and W5 don't accept money. I heard this about 2 days ago on 640 AM the John Oakley show, he's not going to lie or fabricate this, it's well-known that Mosanto sponsored the investigation and W5 accepted the "help". That's blatant conflict-of-interest if you ask me. Just because you heard John Oakley says it doesn't mean it is so.
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said by Xstar_Lumini:I couldn't find anything on Google about the payment to W5 by Mosanto but I found this:
»www.ctvnews.ca/scc-ruling-means-···1.267426
(CTV network virtually cheering a Mosanto court victory over impoverished small farmers, what a coincidence that CTV is the only network in Toronto reporting this victory)
If you google "monsanto organic" there is considerable media interest in the subject.
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Re: Organic Food.. same as non organic? »www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZtiyAPU···e=g-vrec
one more reason organic is better - it's not genetically modified |
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Re: Organic Food.. not as safe? said by CanadianRip:A company with a history of screwing over people for over a decade, and not one person manages to blow the whistle? I wonder why that is...
Wow, it's funny you bring that up... I'm the only person outside of a group of people I'm friends with thats ever echoed that question.
I'm familiar with MDG's extremely unethical business practices, right down to criminal acts, and I've always wondered how they were never called on their shit. |
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| said by urbanriot:Wow, it's funny you bring that up... I'm the only person outside of a group of people I'm friends with thats ever echoed that question.
I'm familiar with MDG's extremely unethical business practices, right down to criminal acts, and I've always wondered how they were never called on their shit.
I need to walk a fine line in what I say, but I will say this: There are a few ticked off journalists out there that tried to publish for their respective publications and where not allowed.
In fact MDG managed to get their PR machine to write up a full page editorial on Goran Varaklic the CEO as some kind of brilliant business person.
If a smaller company like that can manage their PR in that manner, then imagine what Kraft, General Mills, PepsiCo, and Nestle can do to combat a growing organic movement that directly threatens their entire business model with some spend?
You think they can squeeze out a bad report or two? Nah... we can fully trust all our for profit media companies 100%! How you can read that last sentence and not understand how idiotic it sounds is baffling. |
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said by CanadianRip:Want one example - dig up one major scathing article about MDG Computers exposing their unethical business practices in a major news publication where they advertised major full page spreads frequently. MDG is still in business? Looks like they have expanded into furniture. They have a grand total of ten stores in Canada! Their Line of Credit is an obvious rip off. So is their web site, with no prices listed. And they ask you to give up your SIN for a credit check. Obvious traps. But I haven't seen an MDG ad in print or on TV for years.
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said by Thats right :said by elwoodblues:That might be in community TV, not in commercial TV, I've spent enough time in it to know exactly how the system works.
That's right. Happened enough times in the states. but guess he knows all. The US isn't Canada.
Also happened to Myth Busters and their RFID show 3-4 years ago that never aired. Discovery backed down and cancelled the airing of that show because the advertisers got all fired up about it
Money and advertisers pull the strings.
Quite a few examples of this that occurred.
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said by urbanriot:I'm familiar with MDG's extremely unethical business practices, right down to criminal acts, and I've always wondered how they were never called on their shit.
Did you ever complain? Write to Goldhawk? Marketplace? Ellen Roseman (to name a few)?
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said by CanadianRip:In fact MDG managed to get their PR machine to write up a full page editorial on Goran Varaklic the CEO as some kind of brilliant business person.
A quick search brought up all kinds of legal actions like this »www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf···/MDG.pdf against MDG. That's doesn't mean that the media are ignoring him or that they are influenced by advertisers. Just that MDG is a company I would not do business with. Caveat Emptor.
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Re: Organic Food.. not as safe? said by DKS:said by urbanriot:I'm familiar with MDG's extremely unethical business practices, right down to criminal acts, and I've always wondered how they were never called on their shit.
Did you ever complain? Not through social or organizational methods, but more through legal channels. They did change one practice shortly thereafter but we're not sure if that was a natural change or prompted by action.
Some of their actions though, difficult to voice a complaint. They did one shady deal where you buy a PC and you get a free printer! ...unfortunately they removed the colour ink cartridges, which the printer wouldn't function without. If you wanted the 'colour option' you'd have to pay $35 or something like that.
I'm not sure if such in-store deals represented company policy but they had a reputation amongst IT people 'round these parts and we all continually wondered how their reputation wasn't known to the general public. How are these guys still in business?
Sometimes I think CanadianRip is off his rocker... sometimes I think he might be on to something... |
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kudos:2 | said by urbanriot:said by DKS:said by urbanriot:I'm familiar with MDG's extremely unethical business practices, right down to criminal acts, and I've always wondered how they were never called on their shit.
Did you ever complain? Not through social or organizational methods, but more through legal channels. They did change one practice shortly thereafter but we're not sure if that was a natural change or prompted by action. Some of their actions though, difficult to voice a complaint. They did one shady deal where you buy a PC and you get a free printer! ...unfortunately they removed the colour ink cartridges, which the printer wouldn't function without. If you wanted the 'colour option' you'd have to pay $35 or something like that. I'm not sure if such in-store deals represented company policy but they had a reputation amongst IT people 'round these parts and we all continually wondered how their reputation wasn't known to the general public. How are these guys still in business? Sometimes I think CanadianRip is off his rocker... sometimes I think he might be on to something... The practice of removing the printer cartridge is an extension of the printer manufacturer's practice of putting partial cartridges in new printers so that you print a few pages and then have to buy a new one... which you don't discover until too late.
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| said by DKS:The practice of removing the printer cartridge is an extension of the printer manufacturer's practice of putting partial cartridges in new printers so that you print a few pages and then have to buy a new one... which you don't discover until too late.
Uhm no.
»www.moneyville.ca/article/124307···k-of-ink
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