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Re: [Exede] Help choose a good router? Footnote - Linksys E1000 Limitation
Although the E1000 houses four Ethernet ports, the router is best used when connected to one computer at a time. The lack of a Gigabit Ethernet port (which is used by many networked consumer devices) means that you won't be able to tap into the blazing fast speeds of the now-standard wired connection
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT | Unless you're transferring files between computers, gigabit isn't going to help and definitely will not make your sat connection faster.
Plus, I'd stay stay from Cisco for security reasons (see Cloud Connect) unless things have changed recently. |
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| How about using HDHomeRun?
»www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/
Of course, while others are surfing/etc? |
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As long as you have decent firmware and decent hardware, HDHomeRun shouldn't be a problem unless it is a very high def bitrate that exceeds 100mbps.
Most people don't seem to understand just how fast 100mbps really is. It is 100mbps both ways, per port. Not 100mbps total, although consumer routers and switches cannot move the theoretical limit on all ports simultaneously. The hardware simply is not powerful enough.
The n56u is a nice router. I don't believe it is as exceptional as they market it to be, but I would say it is one of the best home networking routers around. |
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Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT | I operate 2 HDHomerun boxes connected to my Cisco 3550 48port switch. I also have our main router, about 15 servers, 5 workstations, 3 access points, a 6TB Windows Media Center, 3 printers, a few Xbox1s (XBMC), 2 Xbox 360s, and a couple flatscreens connected.
Ya, it's 100mbps both ways, so it's 200mbps total bandwidth per port. This is why you get a switch instead of a cheap hub.
A good Cisco switch can be grabbed on eBay for under $50 that can handle a ridiculous amount of torture (the 2950 series). I still use my old 2950 as a backup and for testing configurations.
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Linksys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router reviewed
As you can see from the numbers, you'll find it hard to complain about the WRT54G's routing speed, which was evenly matched in both WAN-LAN and LAN-WAN directions. If 20Mbps isn't good enough for you, then I'm not sure you should be using a consumer-class router!
»www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-wrt···0-6.html
Actual throughput of 10/100 routers
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Please bear in mind that WAN-LAN throughput is what limit's your Internet connection, but it's NEVER mentioned on the box.
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Goodwater, AL | The short answer is a new router will not increase your speeds on a satellite ISP service..
Most customers don't realize that the limiting speed factor is the available bandwidth the modem gets from the satellite...a router can not increase that.
Many think that if their speed is 12mbs using a single computer at a time then with a router they will get the same speed using two or more devices at a time.
The truth is in understanding what a routers' job is...that is to DIVIDE the available bandwidth (speed) among all the active devices connected to the router, wired or wireless.
That means if one computer can get 12mbs when no other device is using the internet then two computers (or other devices) using the internet at the same time will only get 6mbs each....3 devices at the same time will get 4mbs each, and so on.
A router can't increase the speed coming from the modem...it only divides it among the devices trying to use it...
All routers, including the older ones, are much faster than the speed coming from the WB/Exede modem so a newer, faster router will not improve your speeds when more than one device is sharing your available speed from the modem..
If your router is working OK for a single device then I would suggest you keep it and alert everyone that speeds will be divided among everyone trying to use the internet at the same time..
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| said by wm4bama:The short answer is My Router, with two computers hard-wired to it, and WiFi turned off. Linksys E1000 Routing throughput running the latest v1.0.01 build 7 firmware measured 90 Mbps WAN to LAN, 90 Mbps LAN to WAN and 88 Mbps with both directions running simultaneously. » www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless···n-routerConsequently, this 300MHz CPU router with 32MB RAM is fit for duty in my setup. » infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Linksys_E1000_v1.0I would suggest doing some quick research and verify your router's WAN to LAN speed. |
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Billings, MT | said by DrStrangLov:said by wm4bama:The short answer is My Router, with two computers hard-wired to it, and WiFi turned off. ..then what's the point of getting a WiFi router?
Sorry, but it seems that you're spamming information about multiple routers in this thread from different sites without any real world experience. |
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wm4bama
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Goodwater, AL | reply to DrStrangLov
said by DrStrangLov:I would suggest doing some quick research and verify your router's WAN to LAN speed.
You're not on the same measurement page as my discussion...my point is with your two computers downloading the same file at the same time your router is not the limiting speed factor...it's the modem and the available bandwidth (speed) it's getting at the time of the downloads...if one computer could get 12mbs, 2 computers doing exactly the same download at exactly the same time could get 6mbs each, not 12mbs each...
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said by Simba7:..then what's the point of getting a WiFi router?
ebay special...lightly used...twenty bucks shipped. Previous owner found out, the hard way, he needed a faster router.
Sorry, but it seems that you're spamming information about multiple routers ....without any real world experience.
Those with older routers with lower MHz CPUs and little RAM may have issues on Exede...OP was looking for relevant info, btw.
When ViaSat's birds are sending data in bursts, I have recorded them at around 50 mbps; this may be related to SB2 modem, satellite transfer rate, or how router spits it out. In any event, if your equipment (router/computer) can not handle these bursts, then consequences are the end result. |
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said by wm4bama:You're not on the same measurement page
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All routers, including the older ones, are much faster than the speed coming from the WB/Exede modem
I'm not sure this has been established. As I noted, "I would suggest doing some quick research and verify your router's WAN to LAN speed."
I cited one router's specs above that indicated its WAN to LAN was around 20 mbps. I have seen "Current Transfer Rates" in Networx exceeding this value. |
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The WAN to LAN argument is a valid one. I have an old linksys router myself that although it has a 100mbps WAN port, it cannot move anywhere near that much data. With the SPI firewall turned on, it simply cannot move much data. With it turned off, it can move significantly more (but still not near 100mbps). However, this router is also at least 10 years old. It was never designed with the intention of moving data at speeds like we see today and for slower connections, it runs well.
I don't think most modern routers suffer from this problem unless you try to move very high amounts of data. Even 50mbps likely wouldn't be high enough to notice an impact. |
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| said by silbaco:The WAN to LAN argument is a valid
...I don't think most modern routers suffer from this problem...
From an engineering viewpoint, be it on FIOS/CABLE/SATELLITE, if an user can't handle the speed, what does their equipment (i.e., Cisco et.al) have for a solution?
Like throttle down users?
SB2 modem does have a buffer, but if an user's computer is tied up with other or "hidden" tasks, say consuming 75% CPU load, does "stuff happen." Also, some (all?) routers need to be rebooted with time; if not, these routers will "choke the flow rate."
If an user's router/computer is stopping or retarding the flow rate, I would think ViaSat's equipment (or Cisco, etc) would reduce that user's flow-rate, logically speaking. |
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said by DrStrangLov:said by DrModem:previous router buckled under the pressure of 8 devices...and kept freezing the entire network.
Did SB2 modem reset under this loading? No. The modem has taken everything I've thrown at it. |
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