Topic '[Professions] high end weapon enchants' in forum 'World of Warcraft' - dslreports.com

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:42:28 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

LK in howling fjord?

Its in a quest

You use some incense to enter the spirit world then you're supposed to avoid the valks and LK and find the secret vrykul

And when in the spirit world there's Lich King with about 30M health, if you go near him he flattens you to the ground with a 2minute debuff and after about 1:30 he kills you after talking a bit.

you can click the incense buff off and live and just wait out the debuff.

I had forgotten what I was suppose to find so I let LK kill me thinking that might be what I was supposed to find, BTW its not.

You're suppose to find this one house that has a mother and father Vrykul that had a human baby and they're worried about their king finding out, so they send the kid far away (some on wowhead think the kid could be the human orphan in shattrath, but timelines wouldn't fit)

What you've never done that quest chain?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:30:19 EDT

mettachain posted : LK in howling fjord?
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:27:34 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I like how mobs can't kill me.

Ok LK in howling fjord did but that was my fault for walking up to him.

Other wise I just case power word shield and if its a tough mob I toss on renew before the shield drops and smite/holt fire/ect till win.

Its been so easy to level a priest, my mage died ALOT, pull to many mobs on the mage and dead, pull to many on the priest and it'll just take longer.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:23:30 EDT

mettachain posted : priest Tier has the hit not spirit on it. I have a couple pieces that I could use for both Disc and Shadow but most were only shadow. btw, like how shadow is now. a lot of MS procs and it seems like every MB cast i can then use DP. maybe it's just me but it seems that way
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:22:27 EDT

cymraeg posted : disc used the glyph for smite and fire hit, thats baked into the spec now

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:21:21 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Ok I never played shadow I've leveled my priest as holy with an unused offspec of disc.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:18:50 EDT

cymraeg posted : negative, shadow still needs spell hit, this auto hit only applies to healing specs

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:15:44 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by cymraeg:

metta priest get auto hit at 15% now even without hit on the gear, same with druids so you could reforge even more hit to through put or mana regen you wanted to

Besides wasn't there a spirit to hit talent for priests before 5.0.4 so shouldn't even a shadow priest be stacking spirit?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:14:07 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I'd reforge a lot of hit out, as 15 is the new 17.

Unless you wanta go after the rabbit, and want tons of extra hit to hit a +8lvl mob. Which IIRC its exponential so you'd need like 50% to hit the rabbit reliability.

BTW it seems (although I can't find the passive for it) that healers get an auto 15% hit.

My lvl69 holy priest with zero hit gear has exactly 15% hit, and I need to learn to heal on it, the last time I tried healing was the diremaul, and got disgusted with the tanks for ganking the group.

And now I have a bunch more healing spells and not yet sure what I should be using, I was going to que for a random Wrath dungeon but opted to wait till I know WTF I was doing for healing.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:11:34 EDT

cymraeg posted : metta priest get auto hit at 15% now even without hit on the gear, same with druids so you could reforge even more hit to through put or mana regen you wanted to
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:07:34 EDT

mettachain posted : After the patch, I became curious how Disc played out on my priest. I have 4pc T13 Sahdow gear that I reforged for Disc and healed a few HoTs. I have no issues with healing in all that hit gear and my Atonement Smite/Holy fire hits are guaranteed. I have 17% hit still even after reforges lol
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:00:06 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I look forward to 90 and seeing how well that last tier will do, I fully expect it won't be as good as the nutty regen at 85, and that I'll go back to using mana gems, and evocation.

as a side note I'm liking the regen my low level priest has (lvl69 atm) Before 5.0.4 in hellfire I had to keep some mana pots on me but after 5.0.4 my priest doesn't need to use them anymore, though unlike my mage the priest can go OOM it just takes a little while.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:56:15 EDT

mettachain posted : Ah ok. I misread. thanks for clearing it up.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:54:26 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I think you read wrong.
I'm stating what Blizz said.

the last tier (ie you can't get till 90) is needed for regen so for 85-89 they doubled base regen.

Right now at 85, Fire has infinite mana because Blizz doubled the base regen for all mages.

Blizz saw (or believed) that till you could get the regen tier (ie the lvl90 one) that arcane mages would be hurting from 5.0.4 till mop hits, so as some are still raiding at 85 they doubled the base regen for mages for 85-89

I didn't say lacked in the last tier but lacked without the last tier. (big difference there.)

As is is a fire mage at 85(in 5.0.4) simpily can't run out of mana, I can go the whole maddness fight and still be at 99%+ mana (base regen at 85 is over 11k per5)

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:48:53 EDT

mettachain posted : Mages lacked mana regen in the last Tier? I beg to differ.

In frost (PvP) you could do anything with all your mana and have enough till you died.

In Arcane it was still pretty boring but at least there were two different phases that; the mana burn phase and the regen phase. Mana wasn't an issue.

In Fire (IMO the most fun) you couldn't go cross eyed playing this spec. You had to get timing right, you DID watch your mana for longer fights. You did use your mana gem for mana instead of just a SP buff (arcane). but overall, mana still wasn't an issue.

Seem mana using classes right now have NO issue with regen whatsoever. Frost mages are pretty good in PvE now too!
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:36:29 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by Goldheart:

As a warlock I suppose Jade Spirit is better than the Elemental Force enchant. Sadly the 25% spirit bonus is useless though. Any idea of how long each proc lasts?

I have a feeling they might have just made spirit useful to DPS casters again.

Though Mage's atleast from 85-89 have crazy buffed regen (because blizz felt that they needed it to make up for the lack of the last tier) so with the Mana not going up with intel anymore and DPS casters having real combat regen again I'm wondering, though mana gems, evocation, rune of power might be all we need.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:36:15 EDT

cymraeg posted : did you take echo of the elements as a talent if not thats possibly why, did you get the glyph of telluric currents to get mana back, are you still flame shocking first, unleash elements with lava proc.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:30:52 EDT

Goldheart posted : As a warlock I suppose Jade Spirit is better than the Elemental Force enchant. Sadly the 25% spirit bonus is useless though. Any idea of how long each proc lasts?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:21:41 EDT

djlar posted : IDK elemental is sucking so bad, maybe I have the wrong rotation or something.. I lost like 5K dps

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:49:21 EDT

mettachain posted : After another spat of raiding this week I'm going to drop my enhancement spec and go elemental so i can hit the ground running on 26 Sep
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:57:06 EDT

cymraeg posted : i played bothe enh and ele in early beta, at that time enh was slow clunky and not very powerful, ele on the other hand was awesome very smooth game play, mana efficient and extremely pahwerful.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:41:14 EDT

djlar posted : The MoP bandages and food work well, Cata stuff is not gonna make it, you'll have 200K HP to heal in a short time, first order is to train and advance first aid, if an HP food drop keep it for later use..

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:41:03 EDT

mettachain posted : Is the beta still open? Has anyone played as an enhancment shaman in beta?

I would like a possible comparison between Enh and Ele in MoP. Currently mine looks like this. Resto ilvl 404, Enh ilvl 401.

I was thinking about dropping Enh for Ele as I can AoE things down and not have to worry about insta-respawns or getting caught by something I didn't see behind me.

I could just use my resto set and reforge for Ele (still have my 5pc of resto T13 though). Thoughts?
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:08:44 EDT

McBrain posted :

said by cymraeg:

Diss, not at all it will be difficult in quest greens from TH but if you have some blues or even some 378 gear from HoT heroics it will easier but you can get your shit pounded even in that gear if you pull too many.

This is what I was thinking...For Cata I was fully ilvl264 geared with a handful of 277 pieces and I'm 99% positive that I didn't replace my last piece until I hit TH...With an avg ilvl of 400 on my Priest I don't expect to fully be in MoP quest rewards until ~87 or so. And I'll probably have my Heroic Insignia until 89 or 90...cause we all know how few and far between trinkets as quest rewards are.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:55:59 EDT

bTU posted : Not sure how it will be on live but in beta the monkeys and tigers all around the alliance start area were respawning while you were killing one from the same point. Sucks for melee, I went in on my rogue and would shadowstep and open on a monkey and at about 20% left another monkey would spawn right on top of the one I was killing. Nice that I could get my 10 kills or whatever it was in the same spot, but I had to vanish and sprint to get out of combat once I was done. You may want to invest in health pots to level with, just in case. I already have flasks and food set aside for leveling on all my 85's, just to help make things a bit easier.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:20:43 EDT

cymraeg posted : Diss, not at all it will be difficult in quest greens from TH but if you have some blues or even some 378 gear from HoT heroics it will easier but you can get your shit pounded even in that gear if you pull too many.

on the ally side you land on a beach and there are a couple go gather these and kill some monkey quests that will give you a few pieces of new gear that will greatly improve your survivability, for the horde side you end up next to an airship with a couple of go talk to this person and revive these gits that died and kill some monkeys, now the horde side is a bit harder because there are fucking monkeys every damn tree it seems running next to you and you think that you don't have aggro then it turns and attacks just be aware of your aggro. on either side solo you'll be fine 2 mobs you should be fine, 3 or more down them relatively fast. they hit hard focus one at a time and you'll be fine.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:23:38 EDT

djlar posted : All gear quest rewards are for your class only, that's a big improvement, for multiple spec classes they give you 2 choices, for example a shaman you can choose between agility and int rewards.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:12:45 EDT

mettachain posted : You might get a real sense of accomplishment from completing quests instead of the usual:

Pick up a bunch > go to collect items/kill things > turn in > Auto choose highest vendor value item > get XP > yay....

Now it'll be:

Pick up a bunch > go to collect items/kill things (cautiously) > turn in > look at the gear that might give you a fighting chance the for the next quest you get > get XP > YAY!! Man I felt like Frodo Baggins encountering every fucking thing bigger than me and wanting to beat the shit out of me but I have no GD eagles to come save me!....feeling
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:19:05 EDT

Dissembled posted : I have several alts that will be freshly dinged 85's when they hit MoP. Are you guys saying it's going to be extremely difficult for them to even quest the first zone?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:46:32 EDT

Nick D posted :

said by Caelharrad:

... they were considering going through some kind of "statistical squashing" when the next expansion came out. Looks like they decided to leave well enough alone.

Yep, no squish whatsoever.

They did add commas though, so you can easily tell 100,000 from 10,000!

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:42:10 EDT

Caelharrad posted :

said by cymraeg:

theres a reason for it cael, armour and hp are way up once you get to the land of the panderan, take you highest geared toon to highlands and kill something around the twilight fort, very easy right now, now plop that guy down in panderia and make sure you dont aggro more than 2 or you may end up dead, they hit harder and can take a hit as well.

Sounds like fun. Questing is MUCH more interesting, when you might actually get beat up a bit. :)
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And, I understand the reason for the inflated stats, since everything else (HP, damage, heals) is going up as well, for both character toons and mobs. Just that I remember seeing some "ask the devs" type stuff from about a year ago, where they were saying that they were concerned about stat inflation, and that they were considering going through some kind of "statistical squashing" when the next expansion came out. Looks like they decided to leave well enough alone.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:48:05 EDT

djlar posted : I died questing many times on the beta, mobs hit hard, and there are swarms of enemies on most zones, some of them don't hit that hard but some hit like regular mobs, not even a good AoE'r gets alive...

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:47:25 EDT

cymraeg posted : not at all, after the first 6 quests, you should have your main pieces replaced i e chest legs weapon and then youll be better off, the horde quests are abit tougher than ally because you have more ground to cover on foot, remember no flying til 90, than the allies do.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:37:46 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by cymraeg:

So are you suggesting 5man questing?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:34:54 EDT

cymraeg posted : theres a reason for it cael, armour and hp are way up once you get to the land of the panderan, take you highest geared toon to highlands and kill something around the twilight fort, very easy right now, now plop that guy down in panderia and make sure you dont aggro more than 2 or you may end up dead, they hit harder and can take a hit as well.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:22:23 EDT

Caelharrad posted :

said by djlar:

Yup there are scopes, and with similar procs..

The lower end scope gives about 850 crit, the high end scope gives 1650 Agility.

The 2 high end weapon enchant recipes on the list are only buyable at faction vendor and hitting exalted with them, those will be very expensive...

Thanks for the info. And... +850 crit? +1650 agility? Holy crap. Looks like the stat inflation isn't slowing down anytime soon.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:20:25 EDT

DarkLogix posted : And someone that wanted to test could test with cata enchants.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:18:17 EDT

djlar posted : Yup there are scopes, and with similar procs..

The lower end scope gives about 850 crit, the high end scope gives 1650 Agility.

The 2 high end weapon enchant recipes on the list are only buyable at faction vendor and hitting exalted with them, those will be very expensive...

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:52:59 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by mettachain:

said by DarkLogix:

And power Torrent also says "Permanently enchant melee weapon"

Give it a try it might work and be worth it.

The exact verbage...

Permanently enchant a weapon to sometimes increase Intellect by 500 for 12 sec when dealing damage or healing with spells. Requires a level 300 or higher.

Well look at the enchants in the OP

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Enchant Weapon - Jade Spirit

Permanently enchants a melee weapon

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Enchant Weapon - Dancing Steel

Permanently enchants a melee weapon to sometimes increase your Strength or Agility by 1,650 when dealing melee damage. Your highest stat is always chosen. Requires a level 372 or higher item. 600 615 615 615

They might have scopes but it also might be worth testing.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:38:31 EDT

bTU posted :

said by DarkLogix:

And power Torrent also says "Permanently enchant melee weapon"

Give it a try it might work and be worth it.

Wands are 1h weapons now, not ranged for purposes of character slots and enchants. Hunter bows/xbows/guns will have scopes still I believe.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:34:00 EDT

mettachain posted :

said by DarkLogix:

And power Torrent also says "Permanently enchant melee weapon"

Give it a try it might work and be worth it.

The exact verbage...

Permanently enchant a weapon to sometimes increase Intellect by 500 for 12 sec when dealing damage or healing with spells. Requires a level 300 or higher.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:19:44 EDT

DarkLogix posted : And power Torrent also says "Permanently enchant melee weapon"

Give it a try it might work and be worth it.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:13:50 EDT

mettachain posted : Enchant Weapon - MIghty Agility
Permanently enchant a two-handed weapon to increase Agility by 130. Requires a level 300 or higher item.

No, you didn't have to run up and melee to proc the 130 agi from that...

As you said in another thread though, it'll make it easier for the bads to be bads....which obivously you're falling into that category with this argument.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:08:20 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Vs spell damage

what harm does it do for you to try?

AFAIK hunters do melee damage with arrows, its just ranged melee.

or did you run up to proc the staff enchant before?

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:56:30 EDT

mettachain posted : specifically says "when doing melee damage"

ranged with likely still have scopes, albeit buffed up stats.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:21:43 EDT

DarkLogix posted : And what kind of weapon do you put PT on?

its the same class of weapon just different stats, just go and try putting the enchant that hunters used on their melee weapons on the bow and give it a spin.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:15:29 EDT

mettachain posted : those are all melee enchants.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:15:06 EDT

mettachain posted : my wife logged onto her lvl 80 hunter and she plays about as much you say your wife does. she wanted to get everything set up. i pointed her to some hunter sites for basic info (noxxic/ the huntsman's lodge, petopia, etc.) and she began reading.

I even set up several macros for her (no, not castsequence macros...i hate those).

i think she asked me one time if i could set everything up for her to just go out and start questing.

i can't be bothered with that crap. i have my own set of toons to worry about. i told her man up and figure her own shit out. done.
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:12:31 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Well I know you can now put Power torrent on a wand, so I'd guess you can put a weapon enchant on a bow now too.

Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:46:10 EDT

Caelharrad posted : Any news on MoP enchants for ranged weapons? My hunter says "BAH" to all of these melee enchants.
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Semi-related note: my wife has a hunter she has hardly played since dinging L85 several months ago. She got on WoW last night for the first time in a couple of weeks, looked at her hunter and said, "I need a better bow. Can you make me one?" She's currently sporting the Finely-Tuned Throat Needler (ilvl 333) - not a great weapon, but fine for questing and regular dungeons, which is about all she ever does. I have a 525 engineer who could make her a weapon in the ilvl 346-365 range... but I told her, "just wait a few weeks, you'll probably end up with a quest green that's better than anything I could make you". If MoP quest greens are in the ilvl 370-380 range, then looks like I was right.