Topic 'Re: Shaw Unlimited 100' in forum 'Shaw' - dslreports.com

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:37:11 EDT

zod5000 posted :

So you are suggesting a 'wait and see where this goes' approach?

Yup. Telus has a long enough trend of not enforcing that I find it hard to believe they would at this point. If Shaw's bump up program gets ugly (IE the bump you out of grandfathered rates) I think I'd be ok with going back to my old method. Internet on Telus, TV on Shaw.

Of course the reason I left Telus in the first place was because they wouldn't sell me internet faster than 15mpbs, so I would by now they've improved it to 25mbps or 50mbps.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:54:30 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by zod5000:

said by ShawX:

Enjoy your Telus metered internet as of Feb 1, 2013. Wish I was on Turbo 25 with a 250gb limit!!

»telus.com/content/home-phone/not···12120401

It's kind of moot. Telus has never charged overage and doesn't enforce their caps. I have no idea why they decided to mess around with their posted caps when they don't enforce them. It was like all that hoopla a few years ago when Telus posted overage rates, but it was all of for not, because they don't charge them.. lol.

So you are suggesting a 'wait and see where this goes' approach?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:31:15 EDT

zod5000 posted :

said by ShawX:

Enjoy your Telus metered internet as of Feb 1, 2013. Wish I was on Turbo 25 with a 250gb limit!!

»telus.com/content/home-phone/not···12120401

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:30:26 EDT

anon posted : I believe the 100 unlimited automatcailly gets upgraded to 250 unlimited (no extra cost to customer) once the network upgrades are complete to offer those speedst. Correct me if i am wrong.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:33:38 EDT

DanteX posted : So how does Shaw justify making people pay 195 dollars a month for 100 unlimited mean while Shaw 250 unlimited is the exact same prince? Why not drop the price of 100 unlimited down to like 100 a month

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:29:24 EDT

ShawX posted : Enjoy your Telus metered internet as of Feb 1, 2013. Wish I was on Turbo 25 with a 250gb limit!!

»telus.com/content/home-phone/not···12120401

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:58:43 EDT

ShawX posted : Having Shaw's site set to Medicine Hat the unlimited packages are now $195!!

Did they go up again by $5? That's crazy!

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 02 Nov 2012 11:59:47 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by Timerider222 :

And now I have to get back to my SLOW but un-metered connection and low monthly bill................ :D

Instead of a fast but un-metered connection. I'm okay with that. Enjoy. Welcome to the free market where you have this choice, and thanks for chipping in on the discussion.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:21:48 EDT

kevinds posted : The Telus vs Shaw pricing is VERY close for the speeds that are close... Shaw is not charging for overages either, so that idea really doesn't matter either.

I was talking to an account rep from Telus two months ago, asking her for the same services I have from Shaw cheaper, or better services for the same price, and Telus couldn't come close, so not cheaper...

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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:53:16 EDT

anon posted : Yes Telus has had overages listed on their site for a long time but as I have read elsewhere on this site, nobody has ever received an overage charge. I have gone over my limit every month for almost two years now and have never heard a peep, (I used to get regular calls from pissed off Shaw CSRs making threats and telling me to quit using the internet so much". The final straw was the big UBB fiasco, I dumped Shaw and have never looked back. Lately Telus has activated their meter to keep track of usage but is still not enforcing their caps. If any of this info is wrong somebody please correct me. Whether Telus enforces caps in the future is anybody's guess but for right now it's not happening.

I know most people are craving the speed these days, but if you are a little patient you can get slower speeds for a way more reasonable monthly rate. As others have said on here, because Telus can't compete with Shaw's speeds maybe not enforcing their caps is a way to keep their service appealing. I know I couldn't stand living under hard caps with overage charges, I was paranoid about going over and was constantly obsessing about my usage and Shaw's dumb meter, is that really the best way to enjoy the internet (I SAY NO).

Bottom line is if you want the faster speeds Shaw's gonna make damn sure you pay for it. Do the research most Canadian Telecoms are bending us over and printing their own money with little or no upgrades to service even though equipment prices are dropping yearly. I am not a Telus fanboy and was a loyal Shaw internet customer for over 12 years before switching, but watching Shaw's slimy tactics and trying to implement UBB in whatever form they can even 2 years later makes me want to puke.

If Telus ever starts charging for overages I will probably check out a Teksavvy Unlimited account next. One thing Shaw taught me is to stop giving these large corporations any loyalty, now I will go to whoever has the best deal and not get sucked into the "Telus Family", "Shaw Family" etc, feel good advertising, it's all B.S. The new customers get the best deals and offers so if your not happy move somewhere else, become a new customer, finally get a good deal for a change.

Sorry for the long post, but SHAW still gets me steamed even two years later. The shareholders are Shaw's prime concern, not their employees or their customers.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:01:35 EDT

kevinds posted : Additional Download/Upload Usage $2/additional GB used

From the telus.ca page... Which was on their site well before Shaw's UBB ideas...
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:19:24 EDT

Doonz posted :

said by Timerider222 :

Once a CROOKed company, always a CROOKed company. I see people are forgetting the big UBB storm from 2 years ago and all the slimy crap Shaw was pulling. They lure you in with the supposed high speeds and then bend you over once your hooked. I know someone on here will tell me to "shut up" but just remember, "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me".

And now I have to get back to my SLOW but un-metered connection and low monthly bill................ :D

You mean Telus hasnt charged me yet for overages....

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:07:00 EDT

anon posted : Once a CROOKed company, always a CROOKed company. I see people are forgetting the big UBB storm from 2 years ago and all the slimy crap Shaw was pulling. They lure you in with the supposed high speeds and then bend you over once your hooked. I know someone on here will tell me to "shut up" but just remember, "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me".

And now I have to get back to my SLOW but un-metered connection and low monthly bill................ :D

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:47:13 EDT

spectrum posted : BB100+ has also been around for a while.

I contacted Shaw yesterday and they said their 'upgrade' roll-outs were delayed because of that fire they had at the Shaw building in Calgary.
Whether or not that's true, I have no idea.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:53:37 EDT

molfert posted : The bump up program has been on the Shaw.ca site for over a year now. It has been mentioned many time on this forum.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:13:06 EDT

Baud1200 posted : Just hit Shaw's site and noticed that they have added a "+" package which allows increased usage, now giving the BB100 speed category 3 tiers.. IE BB100, BB100+, BB100 Unlimited. They also clearly note "Subject to Bump-up" right on the advertising as well now. Common sense says that this will be added soon to some of the other packages as well in 2013.
»www.shaw.ca/Internet/Broadband-100/

"‡When you subscribe to one of our Broadband Internet packages, you will be opting into the Bump-Up Program. If you exceed your package’s included data, you will automatically be bumped up to the next level of Broadband Internet package for the remainder of your billing cycle. Once your new billing cycle begins, you will return to your original Internet package and your data will be reset to zero. The first time your included data is exceeded, you will receive one month’s grace and won’t be bumped up to the next tier. The Bump-Up Program is coming soon in 2013."

Its safe to assume that the addition of both the + plan and the note about the bump up are clear indications that they will be paying a bit more attention to usage now, in addition to the increased price, implemented throttling, and reduced upload already mentioned above. Even an idiot can put this together with the congestion users are reporting and get an overall picture of the status of their network, and their reluctance to upgrade it.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:37:38 EDT

Baud1200 posted :

said by bb100 :

Has anyone else noticed that they changed the upload speeds recently as well?

Before this last update, so I suspect sometime between July and September, they posted the upload rate as 10mbit for the 100mbit plans. As of today, they show 5mbit again.

I also called them within 2 days after their price bump to $190 for unlimited and they would not honor the old $130 price for unlimited, and said that all existing unlimited users would be bumped up to the new $190 price. Can anyone confirm this? I definitely would have gone to the unlimited plan at that time.

Ya. I had now a couple friends that were going to get the 100 but changed their mind after the upload reduction. Network seems to be bogging down (here anyways i see slowdown during prime hours where it never used to) so they are cutting back on upload as well as jacking up prices, and enforce p2p throttling as per contract agreement applies to the now heavily used node; rather than upgrade the infrastructure. Because of this even if you did get it at 130 you are still paying more for less.

Wish I could say its the first or last time we have or will see these shady tactics from ISP's, its across the board with them because profit is the bottom line to these large companies. As long as we live in a society that accepts this it won't change.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:44:23 EDT

kevinds posted : With Novus, the caps are seperate up and down, I didn't see them as too low.

If I could, I would choose Novus internet.
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:39:18 EDT

pfak posted :

said by kevinds:

In Vancouver,

25/25 $75
50/50 $141
100/100 $241
300/300 $339

Small market, small company, no responce really needed.

You forgot to mention the strictly enforced $0.50/GB overage charges, with low caps. Sorry, I'm in a building that has Novus and I would never get it -- not with those kind of overage fees.
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:23:25 EDT

Doonz posted :

said by hrmmmmmm :

unlimited is a bad choice to offer consumers in general because without accountability, people will just allow torrents to upload at 100% speed 24/7 effectively permanently cutting off a portion of the networks bandwidth.

Lol Go away and go back to dial up

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:16:09 EDT

anon posted : unlimited is a bad choice to offer consumers in general because without accountability, people will just allow torrents to upload at 100% speed 24/7 effectively permanently cutting off a portion of the networks bandwidth.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:24:22 EDT

anon posted : Has anyone else noticed that they changed the upload speeds recently as well?

Before this last update, so I suspect sometime between July and September, they posted the upload rate as 10mbit for the 100mbit plans. As of today, they show 5mbit again.

I also called them within 2 days after their price bump to $190 for unlimited and they would not honor the old $130 price for unlimited, and said that all existing unlimited users would be bumped up to the new $190 price. Can anyone confirm this? I definitely would have gone to the unlimited plan at that time.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:30:03 EDT

borntukill posted : anybody have some good value for firefox about:config settingsfor bb100?
these are my settings, hoping for some inputs, thanks

network.http.pipelining.maxrequests = 15

nglayout.initialpaint.delay = 0

network.http.pipelining.firstrequest = True.

Find network.dnsCacheEntries and change its value to from 20 to 512.
Find network.dnsCacheExpiration and change its value from 60 to 3600.
Ipv6 disable or enable?
Find network.http.max-connections = 96
Find network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server = 12
Find network.http.max-connections-per-server = 24

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:39:27 EDT

anon posted : With wan speeds of 100mbps+ i'm not sure why people want that via wireless, boggles my mind!

IMO wirless is convienent not reliable, go wired!!

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:56:37 EDT

spectrum posted :

said by borntukill:

How much is everyone averaging on wireless speedtest?

Using my own wireless AP (Apple Airport Express), I get the same speed as I would wired (roughly 95-98Mbps), with a little more latency.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:18:22 EDT

borntukill posted : i just traded in my modem only for the cisco 3825. the wireless range cover sucks on this modem, as usual.Any advance settings I should change to get better signal coverage speed? I did a speed test, didnt fair mcuh better on wireless speedtest, around 60mpbs max? How much is everyone averaging on wireless speedtest?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:21:57 EDT

borntukill posted : im using dlink d655 mixed GN,hmm maybe i should switch to shaw's wifi modem?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sat, 06 Oct 2012 00:04:12 EDT

anon posted : I am doing 1.7 to 3TB per month since March on residential BB250. Never even been called once...

I would just use a lower tier and see if they bug you TBH while saving money...

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:31:52 EDT

kevinds posted : What type of wireless are you using? ABGN? or ABG?
Shaw's is N in the 2.4 GHz range, with a maximum physical connection at 300mbps, the actual throughput will be much lower, as with all wireless connections.
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 19:12:59 EDT

DanteX posted : any chance of Broadband 100 unlimited coming down in price to something affordable?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:57:56 EDT

borntukill posted : I just got BB100, was told by shaw tech i can only go around 65mbps on my own dual band wireless, i hit around 100mbps on wired. i didnt get their wifi because usually shaw's routers are crap. Can you guys get higher speed using shaw's wifi modem, or am i sol?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:16:49 EDT

kevinds posted : 300/15 is $103 but not symmetrical...

While Shaw competes with Novus, the size Novus is (footprint and number of customers), I don't think Shaw sees them as much of a threat.

And the same could be said for Google Fiber internet.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:00:55 EDT

anon posted : ahh ic, your speaking novus, which your comment now makes sense to a point, Novus should also be dropping their price per tier.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:05:52 EDT

anon posted :

said by kevinds:

In Vancouver,

25/25 $75
50/50 $141
100/100 $241
300/300 $339

Small market, small company, no responce really needed.

There's no logic with your statement. Chattanooga is smaller then Shaw's, so less clients or revenue with high overhead implementing the network. If anything Shaw's Rate per customer on any tier should be a lot lower.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:35:06 EDT

kevinds posted : In Vancouver,

25/25 $75
50/50 $141
100/100 $241
300/300 $339

Small market, small company, no responce really needed.
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:51:40 EDT

anon posted : Must be nice to have somewhat fair ISP, Chattanooga EPB 250mbps/250mbps for $139.99
What would this be with shaw..$400.00? comments Shaw?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:01:49 EDT

kevinds posted : I've seen pricing for 1000/1000 from a few of the big companies... They are all fairly close in pricing.
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Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:17:20 EDT

anon posted : Im afraid to see what Shaw would charge for a 1000mbps/1000mbps unlimited line speed based on their current pricing model. Im guessing a bargain price of over 1000.00 per month. We love to pay more it seems.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:20:36 EDT

zod5000 posted : Maybe they could increase the bandwidth for existing packages.

I always thought the 100gb diff between bb50 and bb100 was small. Maybe bump bb50 to 500gb, bb100 to 750gb, 1tb, and unlimited packages?

My usuage seems to fall between 400gb and 750gb a month. My highest month was 778. That would of been a real expensive month....

Maybe they could make some more bb50 tiers? I find bb50 to be pretty fast, and even though I blow through the cap, my connection is idle more than 90% of the time (at least it feels like it). I don't always need the faster speeds, more usage works better.

It would probably help if Telus came out with something new and competitive. While they don't enforce their caps they've stalled out at the 25mbps tier of internet (which isn't even rolled out in all city areas, including mine :(). If it did get expensive for usage on shaw again, I could probably make do with telus' 25mbps package (its still really easy to do 700gb on 25mbps package).

My conclusion is that I agree with the posts above. That could be a huge bump up fee after you hit 750gb. I don't really want to worry about my usage, but I would if there was a barrier like that.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:03:28 EDT

Ikarasu posted : Wow, so going over 750 GB is going to cost me $200 a month?

Right now I'm hitting 750 - 1 TB a month, in the odd month, on broadband 50. 300-400 GB most months.. And thats with only downloading a couple shows a day, and some Hd movies. Nothing time sensitive. So $190 a month every odd month? No thanks.

Looks like Teksavvys 25 MB / $45 a month unlimited plan is where I'll be going.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:04:31 EDT

stolen posted : Looks like Bump up has been delayed yet again. Looking at the bottom of the page
»shaw.ca/Internet/Broadband-50/
It says:
"The Bump-Up Program is coming soon in 2013."

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:29:32 EDT

anon posted :

said by ravenchilde:

Sean's point seems to be that since the bump up program hasn't been initiated yet, and we don't know what it looks like, we don't have the data required to have a logical discussion about it.

I'm sure your feelings about the current information will be noticed.

Yes the bump up program isn't initiated yet, but it has been implied and insisted in these forums by members, it should be fair and on par with global offerings, Shaw's intentions is not fair by any means, nor on par with ANY other ISP globally.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:08:39 EDT

ravenchilde posted : Sean's point seems to be that since the bump up program hasn't been initiated yet, and we don't know what it looks like, we don't have the data required to have a logical discussion about it.

I'm sure your feelings about the current information will be noticed.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:57:00 EDT

rotohoto posted : I don't think there was any confusion over which plan this impacts. I'd assume most people here realize this is about the 100/250 unlimited tiers.
I think it's safe to say the frustration stems from the fact that when these plans were announced, exceeding your plan limit, even going to the point of getting bumped up to unlimited was a fairly reasonable dollar amount.
This reasonable amount calmed a lot of the people that were up in arms about Shaw's UBB plans that never actually came to pass.

Now that we're getting closer to being able to get these higher packages, the cost from going over your allotment and being put on "unlimited" is massive.
The significant price increase combined with no options in between is what's putting people off.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:06:04 EDT

ShawSean posted : Hey guys,

Hopefully I’m able to shed a bit more light on the subject.

Since launching our new broadband packaging back in May 2011, we’ve been better able to determine what makes sense for the business, while also providing customers with value in terms of data and speed allotment. This change was specific to pricing unlimited data – while the internet product is a function of both data and speed, they really represent two value equations.

As for the bump up program, this is still in the works. We don’t have any additional information on this as it’s just too early to tell. Once I’m given more direction, we’ll be able to address your questions on monthly overages.

Cheers
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Sean
Shaw Community Manager

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:35:56 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by kevinds:

We can imply that it means externally from our LAN, but the way I read it, as running a server which may be...

You actually cannot OFFER services on the Shaw network is what the ToS is actually saying. You can operate whatever services you want on your internal network. Nobody will care. You cannot offer services to the Shaw network however.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:55:57 EDT

tired posted : But if we're grandfathered on Unlimited 100, what happens when our areas are finally upgraded and we want to change our accounts to Unlimited 250?

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:45:39 EDT

GWSurvey posted : As i said before, the price increase is only for new customers. Any existing customers already on bb100/250 get granfathered.

This was told to me by a source. I am sure shawsean can confirm.

Re: Shaw Unlimited 100

Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:57:20 EDT

rotohoto posted : I'd assume that we won't see anyone get a price increase until:
1. Upgrades are finished and all areas are 250mbps capable
2. The bump up program comes in to effect (March 2013 now?)

But... you know what they say happens when you assume...

Also, if I was a betting man, I'd say the delay of the bumpup program is directly related to the delays in getting the 250mbps upgrades done. Originally they said all areas would be done by Aug 2012, now there's no timetable that they're making public.