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Mele20
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Which browser is recommended for security reasons?

Opera is winning this poll. I have no idea why. Opera 12.2 can't even open the Sophos site (and others have also complained that their Opera cannot open the poll site...so it is not just me. I bypassed Proxo for this poll).

My browsers don't even open the Opera blog properly, much less the Sophos poll site. I tried Fx 4, Fx 10 ESR, Sea Monkey 2.11 (it opened the image on the Opera blog page so I could try to vote but I couldn't put a mark in the correct field and then SM couldn't open the Sophos poll site...but at least it opened the image on the Opera blog page, and Fx 4, and Fx 10 ESR could not even do that). Opera 12.2 opened the image on the Opera blog page, but could not open the poll site.

Finally, I tried IE 8 and, by golly, it actually worked correctly on IE and I was able to vote and to then see the results of the poll on the Sophos page. Fx and SM block 12 trackers at Sophos but that can't be why they don't work right at Opera page or Sophos page because Opera itself can't load Sophos page and Ghostery doesn't work for me on Opera so it isn't blocking the trackers there. Why is IE 8 the only browser that works right for this?

Anyhow, do you guys agree that Opera is the browser to recommend security wise? I voted for Firefox.

EDIT: Geez...I'm an idiot. I forgot the link.

»my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/20···-reasons
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MagnusM
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Chrome is currently the most secure browser. Firefox second. Don't use Internet Explorer unless you want to get badly hurt.
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Dude111
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reply to Mele20

 

That site and Poll opened fine for me on IE6 Mele

»polldaddy.com/poll/6507228


I voted for IE -- IE CAN BE JUST AS SECURE AS ANY BROWSER IF YOU SET IT UP RIGHT!!

Its amazing which browser is winning! (People are blinded by mainstream BS and its sad)



MeDuZa

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Re: Which browser is recommended for security reasons?

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said by Mele20:

Opera 12.2 can't even open the Sophos site (and others have also complained that their Opera cannot open the poll site...so it is not just me. I bypassed Proxo for this poll).

My browsers don't even open the Opera blog properly, much less the Sophos poll site. I tried Fx 4, Fx 10 ESR, Sea Monkey 2.11 ...

Hmm, Opera is not everyone's browser
No problem to open the sites you are complaining about. Works fine here with Opera 12.02 and Fx ESR 10.07.
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Mele20
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I forgot to put the link in my post (it is there now). I was talking about the Opera blog and voting there and then being sent to the Sophos poll page and how none of my browsers except IE 8 worked right.

IE 6, for me, makes a real mess of displaying the Opera blog page and then when IE 6 opens the Sophos page there is a blank box where the poll results should be. But my IE 6 is really old as I have SP 2 for XP not SP 3.
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Name Game
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Re: Which browser is recommended for security reasons?

Opera is winning the poll...so funny.

1. Everyone knows Chrome is the safest browser when it comes to Security.

2. I voted 5 times with the same browser just by clearing the cache

Guess those Opera peps did the same thing..

Since this is the question asked for the poll "if one of your friends or family had suffered a computer security problem, what browser would you recommend that they use? What's your preferred browser security-wise?"

I'll go one step better..not only do I installed Chrome for them..I fix/cleanup the PC..locked down the OS.. update it..then uninstall the A/V they might have and tell them to run without any. None have ever suffered computer security problems again or been whacked by a badboy.

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norwegian
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reply to Mele20


I wish Opera is or was the safest, but since 'Unite' and 'Sync' modes and the firewall rules it allowed, there has to be no way it is safe. If you turn off all the fruit sure. We could review it, but for default settings, it hasn't been for so long now.

As for the pages loading, all fine for me. But then as you mention Mele20 See Profile, so many products are not compliant with anything below XP sp3, IE 7, so I cannot help offer any solutions.
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norwegian
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reply to MagnusM

said by MagnusM:

Chrome is currently the most secure browser. Firefox second. Don't use Internet Explorer unless you want to get badly hurt.

Even now with Win 7 and IE9 and protected mode?
I understand in the past it's ties with the O/S, there was no way it could be safe, but even now?

Your comment surprised me.
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bt06437

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reply to Mele20

My Opera 12.02 opened the site, no problem, even voted.

Recently, I have unchecked the option for "ask websites not to track me". Seems on some sites, no items would be added to the sites Shopping Cart, if this option were selected.



Name Game
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reply to norwegian

Does not surprise me.. even hear the same thing from other developers of A/V's out there on twitter.



norwegian
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I thought there had been more improvement in that dept - but if there is troubles still, they (A/V devs) certainly would be the proving ground on what is working and not. But for a second though, is it malware that hits IE the most, due to it's the 'nature of the beast'?

I just thought there had been advances in IE9 with protected mode and Win 7 over earlier versions.
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Name Game
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Since most people now days use web mail via the browser and not some vulnerable client I would say the browser is the key to keeping safe.

IE9 and Win7 are moving in the right direction..but look at the numbers of total users out there compared to those who might have win7 and IE9 that are facing the internet. You can't just tell someone to run out and buy and new PC or laptop if they want to be safe.
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norwegian
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True, and also add in a cloud to boot.....if I'm reading this correctly.

A company I know is starting to invest in an internal documenting software, and they do use a cloud for load sharing. The new Office platform though just won't win many hearts if they expect business to load their secrets into a Microsoft Cloud...hearsay I know and is a view and not facts yet, and I may get called a troll if someone does know more than that, but I'd like to start or see a topic on the new software to come and security and privacy concerns from a user to a enterprise platform point of view.

Not everyone wants an ipad, tablet or similar tool, both at home or in the enterprise, at least not yet....but we are all dummies to be trained.

But as you say, the browser may in fact be more important than the underlying O/S with the direction we are looking at. Almost the next Netscape/browser step almost?

Little bit off topic I know, but relevant still I believe?
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computerman2
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Uses Internet Explorer on 4 Household PC's here, been using IE since version 4.0, no major infections over the years, just the browser always preferred to be using..

So Internet Explorer has my vote



StuartMW
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I use Mosaic.

WOT?
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Name Game
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It was a sad day when NCSA took down the Mosaic pages. But for a while there..you could not even view well with Mosaic the pages they did have there. Only got hanging chad

Mosaic

Plaque commemorating the creation of the Mosaic web browser.
Perhaps one of the most important results of the Gore Bill was the development of Mosaic in 1993.[13][14] This World Wide Web browser is credited by most scholars as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s:
Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later.'[15]

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_an···chnology

Browser Wars IV: A New Hope
»www.2bitsabyte.com/browserwars.htm
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Name Game
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Let's watch Viola do the Samba

»archaeopop.blogspot.com/2011/12/···web.html


windaz

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reply to Mele20

"Out of the box" and excluding browsers like Lynx. Google Chrome, then Internet Explorer (of course, not older versions), then I'm not sure.



StuartMW
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So Al Gore did invent the internet?

That explains a lot...
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StuartMW
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said by Name Game:

Browser Wars IV: A New Hope

Well my browser is better/faster/more secure than yours
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Hank
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said by StuartMW:

So Al Gore did invent the internet?

That explains a lot...

Yes, he did. Almost simultaneously Bill Clinton helped him invent all the pornographic sites.


StuartMW
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reply to Mele20

BTW I like a pissing contest as much as the next person--just as long as I'm not the one getting all wet
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DownTheShore
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reply to Mele20

They should have included an "Other" choice in that poll, since not all currently available browsers were listed.



ZZZZZZZ
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reply to StuartMW

quote:
Well my browser is better/faster/more secure than yours
And my browsers are all better/faster/more secure because I configure them properly.


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Common sense while browsing the Internet is the safest browser.

I was a HUGE fan of opera until recent versions. I use Firefox, and IE8 (xp) and Firefox and IE9 on Vista, 7.

Use spyware blaster for restricted sites list, and set custom security levels. But really, it's all common sense.
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slajoh01

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I can only vote for IE 8 or above.
Because IE has more granular security settings and controls via Group Policy.



Selenia
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Re:  

said by Dude111:

That site and Poll opened fine for me on IE6 Mele

»polldaddy.com/poll/6507228

I voted for IE -- IE CAN BE JUST AS SECURE AS ANY BROWSER IF YOU SET IT UP RIGHT!!

Its amazing which browser is winning! (People are blinded by mainstream BS and its sad)

Mainstream BS? Denial is not just a river in Egypt. The only way IE6 can come close to secure is with group policy, external programs(namely sandboxing and script sanitizing) and most of it's outdated plugins disabled. Lots of work to prove a point, Dude111. IE6 is Swiss cheese in need of you plugging all its holes. That is not what I call secure. My picks are Firefox with AppArmor or SeLinux, otherwise Chromium, which sandboxes the vulnerable Flash plugin and JavaScript engine. Doesn't that sound easier than plugging IE6, which is ugly anyways(rendering and interface)?
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slajoh01

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Thats correct. IE is actually more secure in that respect IF setup correctly via Group Policy. But an average Joe user does not know this.



Dustyn
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Re: Which browser is recommended for security reasons?

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I voted Opera. I also used IE to render the site. It worked perfectly just as it did with Opera 12.2.


Name Game
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you posted at 3:19pm and this is what it looks like at 4:40PM. Since there is a big deal direct link to the poll at the Opera site it's pretty much rigged. BTW I just voted a 4th time..this time Firefox.