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mettachain
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Re: [Professions] high end weapon enchants

Mages lacked mana regen in the last Tier? I beg to differ.

In frost (PvP) you could do anything with all your mana and have enough till you died.

In Arcane it was still pretty boring but at least there were two different phases that; the mana burn phase and the regen phase. Mana wasn't an issue.

In Fire (IMO the most fun) you couldn't go cross eyed playing this spec. You had to get timing right, you DID watch your mana for longer fights. You did use your mana gem for mana instead of just a SP buff (arcane). but overall, mana still wasn't an issue.

Seem mana using classes right now have NO issue with regen whatsoever. Frost mages are pretty good in PvE now too!
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DarkLogix
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I think you read wrong.
I'm stating what Blizz said.

the last tier (ie you can't get till 90) is needed for regen so for 85-89 they doubled base regen.

Right now at 85, Fire has infinite mana because Blizz doubled the base regen for all mages.

Blizz saw (or believed) that till you could get the regen tier (ie the lvl90 one) that arcane mages would be hurting from 5.0.4 till mop hits, so as some are still raiding at 85 they doubled the base regen for mages for 85-89

I didn't say lacked in the last tier but lacked without the last tier. (big difference there.)

As is is a fire mage at 85(in 5.0.4) simpily can't run out of mana, I can go the whole maddness fight and still be at 99%+ mana (base regen at 85 is over 11k per5)


mettachain
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Ah ok. I misread. thanks for clearing it up.
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DarkLogix
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I look forward to 90 and seeing how well that last tier will do, I fully expect it won't be as good as the nutty regen at 85, and that I'll go back to using mana gems, and evocation.

as a side note I'm liking the regen my low level priest has (lvl69 atm) Before 5.0.4 in hellfire I had to keep some mana pots on me but after 5.0.4 my priest doesn't need to use them anymore, though unlike my mage the priest can go OOM it just takes a little while.


mettachain
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After the patch, I became curious how Disc played out on my priest. I have 4pc T13 Sahdow gear that I reforged for Disc and healed a few HoTs. I have no issues with healing in all that hit gear and my Atonement Smite/Holy fire hits are guaranteed. I have 17% hit still even after reforges lol
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cymraeg
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metta priest get auto hit at 15% now even without hit on the gear, same with druids so you could reforge even more hit to through put or mana regen you wanted to
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DarkLogix
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I'd reforge a lot of hit out, as 15 is the new 17.

Unless you wanta go after the rabbit, and want tons of extra hit to hit a +8lvl mob. Which IIRC its exponential so you'd need like 50% to hit the rabbit reliability.

BTW it seems (although I can't find the passive for it) that healers get an auto 15% hit.

My lvl69 holy priest with zero hit gear has exactly 15% hit, and I need to learn to heal on it, the last time I tried healing was the diremaul, and got disgusted with the tanks for ganking the group.

And now I have a bunch more healing spells and not yet sure what I should be using, I was going to que for a random Wrath dungeon but opted to wait till I know WTF I was doing for healing.


DarkLogix
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said by cymraeg:

metta priest get auto hit at 15% now even without hit on the gear, same with druids so you could reforge even more hit to through put or mana regen you wanted to

Besides wasn't there a spirit to hit talent for priests before 5.0.4 so shouldn't even a shadow priest be stacking spirit?

cymraeg
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negative, shadow still needs spell hit, this auto hit only applies to healing specs


DarkLogix
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Ok I never played shadow I've leveled my priest as holy with an unused offspec of disc.

cymraeg
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disc used the glyph for smite and fire hit, thats baked into the spec now


mettachain
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priest Tier has the hit not spirit on it. I have a couple pieces that I could use for both Disc and Shadow but most were only shadow. btw, like how shadow is now. a lot of MS procs and it seems like every MB cast i can then use DP. maybe it's just me but it seems that way
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DarkLogix
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I like how mobs can't kill me.

Ok LK in howling fjord did but that was my fault for walking up to him.

Other wise I just case power word shield and if its a tough mob I toss on renew before the shield drops and smite/holt fire/ect till win.

Its been so easy to level a priest, my mage died ALOT, pull to many mobs on the mage and dead, pull to many on the priest and it'll just take longer.


mettachain
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LK in howling fjord?
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DarkLogix
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said by mettachain:

LK in howling fjord?

Its in a quest

You use some incense to enter the spirit world then you're supposed to avoid the valks and LK and find the secret vrykul

And when in the spirit world there's Lich King with about 30M health, if you go near him he flattens you to the ground with a 2minute debuff and after about 1:30 he kills you after talking a bit.

you can click the incense buff off and live and just wait out the debuff.

I had forgotten what I was suppose to find so I let LK kill me thinking that might be what I was supposed to find, BTW its not.

You're suppose to find this one house that has a mother and father Vrykul that had a human baby and they're worried about their king finding out, so they send the kid far away (some on wowhead think the kid could be the human orphan in shattrath, but timelines wouldn't fit)

What you've never done that quest chain?