 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to pnh102
Re: Well Yea... said by pnh102:said by BF69:said by pnh102:For people who have one phone per account, paying a lot more for less stuff makes 0 sense.
More. not "a lot" more. $10 difference. Yes, a lot more. If you have an old Smartphone plan with Verizon you currently pay $30 a month for unlimited data. The new plans charge $50 a month for 1GB of data and $15 per GB overage. Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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| said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to BF69
said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. But that just makes it worse. If you're paying $30 a month for 2GB, the cheapest Verizon Share Everything option is now $50 for 1GB, before overages. You pay $20 more and lose half your data.
If you want 2GB with Share Everything, you pay $60 a month for that. You pay $30 more for the same exact data you had before.
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small.
let's have fun with math.
Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA! |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference. But that just makes it worse. If you're paying $30 a month for 2GB, the cheapest Verizon Share Everything option is now $50 for 1GB, before overages. You pay $20 more and lose half your data. If you want 2GB with Share Everything, you pay $60 a month for that. You pay $30 more for the same exact data you had before. Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account.
Old pricing $2 GB data $30 unlimited texting $20 TOTAL $50. Share Everything unlimited texting and 2 GB data =$60. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming everyone on a old Verizon plan has unlimited data. Most people I know have the 2 GB plan for $30. I know exactly 2 people that have unlimited data with Verizon. Everyone else pays $30 for 2 GB. So yes $10 difference.
I know a bunch of people with unlimited data with Verizon. Even my 75+ year old parents each have unlimited data on their phones.(although they don't really use alot of data). But my brother who also has unlimited data with Verizon uses 10GB to 20GB each month good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small. let's have fun with math. Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90 Share Everything 2 GB plan $100 price difference $10 . TA DA! That is still $20 more than I pay for unlimited for the 2GB price you quote. After taxes it would be closer to $100 which brings it inline to $20 more than the $78 I pay after taxes.
And it might not be the norm, but the bulk of people I personally know with Verizon phones have unlimited data. And unfortunately with the new pricing I will be forced to keep the plan I have as long as possible. And I'll probably be forced to leave Verizon at some point if I get forced to their shared plans. What would I have to end up paying, double for my usage with the new shared plans? That is a crazy amount to pay for just one phone. |
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said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming ...
Aren't you doing the same? Assuming, I mean. You're assuming your light data usage applies to all, are you not?
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 djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:1 | reply to BF69
But what if I don't want unlimited texting? |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to jseymour
said by jseymour:said by BF69:Not everyone has unlimited data. I don't. Quit assuming ...
Aren't you doing the same? Assuming, I mean. You're assuming your light data usage applies to all, are you not? Jim Nope I'm not. I'm comparing apples to apples. That's all. You can throw in unlimited but the fact is the unlimited plan was NOT available right before Verizon switched to Share Everything. It in fact had been discontinued a year before. The fact is someone signing up with Verizon on June 27th and getting old pricing and someone signing up on June 28th and getting new Share Everything pricing the difference is $10. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to djrobx
said by djrobx:But what if I don't want unlimited texting?
Well go with another carrier |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to BF69
said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account. Texting is worthless, and that is why I do not factor it in. If you have any data plan you should have carrier-based texting blocked and be using any number of zero cost alternatives.
Anyone who is a regular on THIS website should NOT be paying for texting.
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said by BF69:let's have fun with math.
Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA!
That's just slightly disingenuous. Not long ago a minimal plan was:
450 minutes + 250 text messages + unlimited data was $45 + $5 + $30 = $80.
Now a minimal plan is $100.
Price difference: An additional 25%. TAH DAH!
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account. Texting is worthless, and that is why I do not factor it in. Um you HAVE to factor it otherwise you just fudging the numbers to prove you point. Which is basically like lying. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | said by BF69:Um you HAVE to factor it otherwise you just fudging the numbers to prove you point. Which is basically like lying.
Why?
On the one unlimited Smartphone plan I have, we have carrier-based texting blocked specifically because I don't want to pay for something I can get for free with the data.
But even if you want to pay (a lot) for something that can be obtained at zero cost, that still doesn't change the fact that these plans charge a lot more for data than the previous plans, capped or uncapped. Making texting "free" adds absolutely zero value to these plans. The same goes for unlimited voice. We use about 100 minutes a month. Making that unlimited added absolutely zero value whatsoever.
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said by BF69:good for you but that's not the norm. I can 100% guarantee you that the number of Verizon customers that have unlimited data is very small. You're one of my favorite posters here, so I'm a bit disappointed to see you making these sorts of assertions without any evidence to back them up. It's a fairly safe assumption that a good portion of Verizon customers still have unlimited, until recently you were not required to give it up. There will be a significant number of unlimited users into the foreseeable future, as not everybody upgrades every two years. Many people are content to keep their old devices until they completely die, I have friends who are still using their first edition RAZRs.
said by BF69:let's have fun with math.
Old pricing 450 minute, unlimited texting, $30 data plan for 2 GB. TOTAL $90
Share Everything 2 GB plan $100
price difference $10 . TA DA!
The pricing was very carefully calculated to maintain existing revenue for the same level of service. My wife and I:
700 talk/text plan: $99.98
My unlimited data: $29.99
Her 4GB (double data promo) plan: $30
22% discount: ($26.40)
Total: $133.57
New system:
2 x smartphones: $80
4GB of data: $70
22% discount: ($15.40)
Total: $134.60
Essentially the same price, I deliberately picked the 4GB data plan to roughly match what someone would have with two lines on the old entry level (2GB) data plan.
The plans really save money for multi line accounts where people don't use a lot of data. If I was willing to give up Pandora my wife and I would average 600-800MB/mo and could safely get away with the 1GB plan. In that instance our bill would be $119, a yearly savings of $175, which is real money for most of us. |
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said by BF69:Um the "data" portion also includes unlimited texting which is $20 under old pricing. funny how you don't take that into account.
Um, who needs, who ever needed, unlimited texting? Under the old plans you could get 250 text messages for $5 or 1000 for $10.
What VZW has done is make unlimited the services for which use is dropping (voice and text) and increase the charge for the service that's climbing in use: Data.
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No matter how you slice it, $50 for 1Gb is an absolute rip off. Then you have to pay a fee to be able to access this overpriced data bucket. |
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Or you just use Straight Talk $45 and save $535 over the year.
That's a new iPhone each and every year. Add in the taxes that are through the roof and the savings add up to even more. |
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So it was a $10 price hike for no reason? |
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You are the one fudging here to prove your point.
If I am fine with 450 minutes, which is the reason I was on it to begin with then you just started charging me $10 a month for nothing as your unlimited has no value to me. It is the exact same thing with texting. If I was on a 250txt plan, then I am fine with that. You changing it to unlimited and adding a $10 or $20 cost is doing nothing but raising my price as your "unlimited" has no value. |
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