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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI

[Race to 90] Ugh...decisions.

I've probably posted about this before - but cut me some slack, I'm bored, working on a huge quote package :-P I'm going to play in MoP I decided (on a limited basis) - and I need to decide how I'm going to limit myself. I have an 84, 8 85's, and a 80. I'm really tempted to delete a bunch of them, just to keep myself from being a serious alt-aholic again. If I'm going to keep JUST 2 - and I'd like to have the option to tank, heal, dps, and do PvP - what would you guys think? Here's what I have:

Warrior (85) - has 475 BS, 500 Inscription
Death Knight (85) - 525 herb/alch
Druid (85) - 525 mine/engineer/fish/cook
Paladin (85) - 525 mine/JC/cook
Hunter (85) - 525 LW/Skinning
Shaman (85) - 525 LW/Skinning
Priest (85) - 525 tailor/475 JC
Rogue (85) - no professions
Warlock (80) - no professions
Mage (84) - 475 tailor/525 ench

I'm torn - really torn. My current thought is to maintain the Mage (PvP, and for ench - this will be a large moneymaker for D/E I think at start of MoP) and Druid (all-around role abilities, plus maxed fishing and cooking and mining). What's your guy's opinions, if you're bored enough to care?


Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:8
I'd say go with the DK for dps/tank/pvp and choose between the shaman and the druid for your healer/dps. Naturally, I lean toward the druid... but having just leveled a shaman... they are very fun.


puppy

join:2010-01-28
reply to clawfury
If you only have a limited amount of time and don't plan to raid (same situation as I am), just play the druid. Multiple roles, and honestly you don't need to cover all the professions nowadays.

Even profession gets 80 stat (well except your mining/engineering) and the crafted stuff is BOE. If you don't raid then you don't even need to min/max all that much.

Just make sure you like the mechanism of each of the druid roles though. I personally don't like the boomkin or feral kitty dps, too complicated.


qualitybobby
Premium
join:2009-12-29
Middleville, NY
reply to clawfury
said by clawfury:

I've probably posted about this before - but cut me some slack, I'm bored, working on a huge package :-P

O.o


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
Premium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3
reply to puppy
said by puppy:

honestly you don't need to cover all the professions nowadays.

Sure you do there's an achev for getting them all to 600 and you must get that if you have enough max lvl toons.


mettachain
Goblineer

join:2011-09-27
Azeroth
kudos:1
There's an achievement for raising ALL professions to 600? nice
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DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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Its an account wide one.

And seems to be a stepped achev, starting with raise 5 primary to max level (600)


mettachain
Goblineer

join:2011-09-27
Azeroth
kudos:1
outstanding! i have everything at max right now. that achievement should be worth an easy 30 achieve points due to the amount of time/money/mats you have to get and produce
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DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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Baytown, TX
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well in 2 weeks get them to 600 and post results.

djlar

join:2009-04-23
799228
reply to clawfury
Professions will give, I believe 320 of something..
Enchanting 160 of your best stat to each ring
LW 320 extra stat to your bracers (and "free" leg enchants)
BS 2 extra sockets for a 160 stat gem each
JC 160 gems (max 2), never got to learn those on Beta though.
Inscription 320 extra to shoulder enchant
Mining 160 stamina
Skinning 160 crit

Exact math for Tailoring and Engineering I forgot right now on their respective proc/use stuff

clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to qualitybobby
said by qualitybobby:

said by clawfury:

I've probably posted about this before - but cut me some slack, I'm bored, working on a huge package :-P

O.o

Sorry, I should consider my audience and specify "quote package" lmao

clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to puppy
said by puppy:

If you only have a limited amount of time and don't plan to raid (same situation as I am), just play the druid. Multiple roles, and honestly you don't need to cover all the professions nowadays.

Even profession gets 80 stat (well except your mining/engineering) and the crafted stuff is BOE. If you don't raid then you don't even need to min/max all that much.

Just make sure you like the mechanism of each of the druid roles though. I personally don't like the boomkin or feral kitty dps, too complicated.

Thanks for the responses, guys. I do plan to raid, but just casually. I'm one of those guys that played feral back when it was way more complicated, so I don't mind that I think for sure the druid is staying - but I'm tempted to drop engineering it's such a dud.

clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to qualitybobby
said by qualitybobby:

said by clawfury:

I've probably posted about this before - but cut me some slack, I'm bored, working on a huge package :-P

O.o

Man, I just got trolled. :-(


mettachain
Goblineer

join:2011-09-27
Azeroth
kudos:1
i don't know what raiding casually means....

it's either you agree to show up every week with the same people on the same days/times or you LFR.

i hope you realize that there likely won't be many successful PUGs raiding Mogushan Vaults any time soon
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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
said by mettachain:

i don't know what raiding casually means....

it's either you agree to show up every week with the same people on the same days/times or you LFR.

i hope you realize that there likely won't be many successful PUGs raiding Mogushan Vaults any time soon

That's fair enough, I'll explain raiding casually:

In WotLK, I raided with a Proudmoore guild called Manly. We ran two raids: a 25 man on Saturday (one morning - 3 hours), and a 10 man on Sunday (2-3 hours). Attendance was 75-90% for every person, mostly on the 90% side. We cleared everything in every tier, except Yogg on 25 (the 10 man did, with all achieves).

That's my benchmark for "casual". Not raiding 4 nights a week, no screaming on vent, no sending screenshots of your UI and macros for "review" before you get accepted into the raiding group, etc. Solid progress with a decent group of low drama peeps, who generally play well, but aren't pros, and won't clear everything at server first levels.


Immer
Gentleman
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join:2010-01-07
Evans, GA
kudos:8
Raiding in a casual atmosphere is awesome.


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3
said by Immer:

Raiding in a casual atmosphere is awesome.

Ya, not raiding because the guild wants to wait a month after launch stinks.

I'm really considering a new guild, and with the rep buff it wouldn't be so bad, but as it is the current guild is willing to help me get the legendary staff though they're only doing 10man and for the first time I've only downed 3 FL bosses in a lockout (where as before I had atleast cleared 6 bosses each time I got into FL.

I'd like a causal guild like claw said.
80% show up atleast (to make it a guild run)
Not screaming in vent. (and people that atleast try to avoid vent feedback and overly loud voices)
People who install DBM (because its standard and has good interactions with other DBM users
Are willing to TRY a new boss on heroic and not just toss in the towel.

but also not rage at someone for being just a little late or making a mistake on 1 pull.

My current one is almost there, but has attendance issues for anything but DS and they don't plan to ever try raiding MOP till November. (which as I have so many vacation days I want to hit MoP raids on opening week.)


McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
kudos:2
reply to djlar
Tailoring is a proc, so the math is wonky for it.

Engineering tinkers will equal out to the same as every other profession (+320), if you use them on cooldown.

I just have my glove tinker macro'd into my rotation, that way it never fails to go off. One thing to note is that Engineering tinkers cannot be used at the same time as on use trinkets.
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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to DarkLogix
Will raiding be cross-server right away for MoP raids...? Or held back to keep up their holy cash cow of server x-fers?


mettachain
Goblineer

join:2011-09-27
Azeroth
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current tier raids will be same server only. so yes, there will still have to be server transfers.
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DarkLogix
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3
reply to clawfury
what metta said but in a more ally tone. (j/k)

ya it seems current tier is going to always be cross realm disabled (for the foreseeable future.)

so sept 25, 1 week of leveling (due to blizz delaying tier 14's start by 1 week)

Oct 1, 1st raid opens

Oct 8, LFR opens

Oct 22 (IIRC) more raids open (same tier but slightly higher, and these have the tier gear)

Oct 29, the guild I'm currently in might start raiding MoP, and 2nd LFR of MoP opens.

clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to mettachain
Thanks Metta. Was curious about that. I've struggled to find that level of raiding I enjoy since Manly - I've tried with a few guilds, and either found people completely retarded (way too slow progression due to bads), or extremely demanding and acting like it's their second job. I tried looking for a new guild for my druid - this was classic - I posted on the WoW guild recruitment forums. Got a message from this guy, I then proceeded to talk to him on real ID. He said his guild had been #2 in progression on their server in Wrath, and they had a good solid group, and were just missing a tank and one other. I realm AND faction x-ferred (to the tune of I think $55-60). They had no raids on the calendar, and were still missing 3/4 of a group. I tried running a few heroics with them, and their raid leader could barely pull 5k dps on his boomkin. This was at 20% buff time in DS, mind you - I heard he did about the same on Morchok, and they couldn't even get past Morchok (I fortunately did not attend this raid, I smelled this coming). Makes me so hesitant to fork over money for a x-fer ever again.


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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Ya, I'd suggest doing a cross realm raid of a lesser raid before forking over the money.

or atleast a dungeon.

though I wouldn't bother with a faction change.


mettachain
Goblineer

join:2011-09-27
Azeroth
kudos:1
reply to clawfury
Exactly. you should definitely do your homework before handing out money to transfer your characters. you can get burned pretty easily.

Check wowprogress.com for the guild progression as it usually has at least 3 tiers of progression data on file. check out the guild armory on battle.net. If they're somewhat serious about getting raids done then they would likely have their own guild website where the raiders will discuss different strats, post theories, helpful suggested addons, etc.

Once you can get a decent feeling about a guild then I MIGHT fork over money to raid with them if you can solid answer that you'd have that opportunity to raid and not just sit the bench as a standby.

request a trial 5 man dungeon run with the core raiders to so you can show them your worth. that'll keep you fresh in their minds when they're starting invite to the acutal raids!
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clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
See, I did do my research. Their guild indeed was highly ranked in Wrath. The guy who invited me to the guild did have a decent armory background (previous raid tiers before Cata). His story was that most of them took a break for Cata due to life balance issues. No website. Oh trust me, I'll be much more careful next time


qualitybobby
Premium
join:2009-12-29
Middleville, NY
reply to clawfury
said by clawfury:

said by qualitybobby:

said by clawfury:

I've probably posted about this before - but cut me some slack, I'm bored, working on a huge package :-P

O.o

Man, I just got trolled. :-(

Sorry Claw. That's how I read it at first and I laughed.


clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
LOL, it's okay, Bobby. You really got me with that one...I thought OMG, I can't believe I typed it like that...I respond to your post..and then I go back and read mine >.>