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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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Re: What now??

Before you get all up in arms, please note that the post above is partially satrirical (humor, arrh arrh).
I not opposed to fiber or muni fiber, but I have repeated argued that you (and others) are being unrealistic about the cost, the needed resources and the payback as are many (muni and otherwise) FTTx project promoters.
I can see the public value to really fast HSI, but until you become more honest about the cost and risks, I can't see backing most of them, and even those reported here that do seem potentially viable are frequently shouted down as overpriced corporate scams.
People can have FTTx or cable or? HSI and even own it, but it takes money and management and tough "we can't afford THAT" decisions based on supportable FACTS not, "I WANT" I NEED" pipe dreams.


StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
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said by tshirt:

Before you get all up in arms, please note that the post above is partially satrirical (humor, arrh arrh).
I not opposed to fiber or muni fiber, but I have repeated argued that you (and others) are being unrealistic about the cost, the needed resources and the payback as are many (muni and otherwise) FTTx project promoters.
I can see the public value to really fast HSI, but until you become more honest about the cost and risks, I can't see backing most of them, and even those reported here that do seem potentially viable are frequently shouted down as overpriced corporate scams.
People can have FTTx or cable or? HSI and even own it, but it takes money and management and tough "we can't afford THAT" decisions based on supportable FACTS not, "I WANT" I NEED" pipe dreams.

i guess its kinda like government mandated healthcare then.


tshirt
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Can you better explain what parallels you see between those two subjects?


hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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Gov't health care was NEVER an issue when it was just for MA residents but now since it's a national issue, it has become the topic of everyone, time to move on, It's here to stay and it should be. Everyone is entitled to healthcare it is a requirement. One unhealthy person that can't afford healthcare can spread their illness just by standing next to you at your local supermarket. And yes, it does happen. But yet you'd rather have HSI from your local city than actually help those that are sick.


StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
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the key word "entitled" ... nuff said.

Actually ..there is so much wrong with what you just typed its not really worth responding to other than:

The Federal Government was designed to be as minimal and un-intrusive as humanly possible. This is an undisputed fact.

Nowhere in the constitution or bill of rights does it say that people are entitled to healthcare nor does it say the Federal Government should control at least 1/5th of the economy.

People like you are so .... dense you fail to see the bigger picture. The argument wasn't about healthcare itself ...DUH ..it is about Federal Government and its hands in your life.

Lastly ..since you obviously need an education on entitlements:

What exactly are entitlements? The short and most correct answer is that entitlements enslave people to whomever is entitling them...and in this case ... the Federal Government. So..instead of promoting self-reliance (exactly like the founders of our once great nation intended)... people like yourself would happily trade the great gift you were given ..of self-reliance for enslavement.

The parallels are simple ... health care will cost the US Government so much that itwill either finally bankrupt the country or other "entitlements" will be slashed to the point where people will go hungry.


fiberguy
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He advocates socialism.. short and simple.

The socialists wannabees in this nation piss me off. They get so many things wrong, even their own desire to be a socialist what they often forget that is once you're enslaved by the government you are required to pay for your gifts/entitlements. THAT, however, doesn't work for them in their vision of entitlement. They want to just sit back, use their iPhone or Android, watch YouTube and Hulu, have their coffee dates with friends and use FREE Wifi and express themselves with creative writing OR talk with their fellow friends about how THEY can better the world (hahahahah, that one I love) all wall forgetting that in a socialist word, the government also doles out responsibilities for you. You're enslaved to the government. Oh, and one other point they forget.. socialism often falls and fails.

Socialists and enlistment minded people piss me off so much because they clearly lack any ability to comprehend life in any form yet they whine the loudest and screw up the world for everyone else who wants nothing to do with their lifestyle choice.

By the way the other day I actually head a "friend" of mine say "we just need to get into socialism so we can finally get this nation moving again..." that was the last thing he ever said to me.


LucasLee

join:2010-11-26
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you are hilariously uninformed regarding many of the terms in your post.

thanks for the comedy though.


StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
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said by LucasLee:

you are hilariously uninformed regarding many of the terms in your post.

thanks for the comedy though.

I'm far from uninformed. FAR FAR from uninformed. I don't mind certain subsidies which seem to serve as catalysts for everyday people to become even more self-reliant .. such as electricity, roads, internet, telephone...

I draw the line when the incentives to succeed are muddied with the loss of personal responsibility that comes with failure.

If people don't like that ..there are plenty of places across the pond that I'm sure they'd like, but oh wait ..they won't take you for free. Shell out 50-100 thousand dollars up front to many of the socialist countries and you can be lazy there ..and rely on their entitlements.

LucasLee

join:2010-11-26
kudos:1

yeah, my post was in reply to fiberguy. but your misconceptions regarding socialism are also rather evident.

but i don't begrudge any american for such a position. your society has made public discourse regarding socialism difficult to have since most loud voices all equate it essentially to ussr style communism. which it isn't.