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IPPlanMan
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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Been saying this for years now...

If this is indeed true, then I've been right about what I've said for years: Faster speeds results in higher levels of usage. Having the same cap regardless of provisioned speed was ridiculous. I've said that repeatedly on DSLR.

Being able to download things faster means that you'll download higher resolution content and more of it. You'll stream more because it's faster. You'll send full resolution movies/videos because it's faster. You'll do more in the same amount of time because it's faster. Why people argued against me on this, I'll never understand.

So for all those who said I was wrong, who said that faster speeds don't mean higher levels of usage... Looks like Comcast proved you all wrong.
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Nightfall
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said by IPPlanMan:

If this is indeed true, then I've been right about what I've said for years: Faster speeds results in higher levels of usage. Having the same cap regardless of provisioned speed was ridiculous. I've said that repeatedly on DSLR.

Being able to download things faster means that you'll download higher resolution content and more of it. You'll stream more because it's faster. You'll send full resolution movies/videos because it's faster. You'll do more in the same amount of time because it's faster. Why people argued against me on this, I'll never understand.

So for all those who said I was wrong, who said that faster speeds don't mean higher levels of usage... Looks like Comcast proved you all wrong.

Faster speeds do not result in higher levels of usage across the board. Case in point, I moved from performance to Blast about a year ago. In that time, my habits haven't changed. I am not using more bandwidth. In fact, I am using 175-200gb per month, the same as I have always used.

You are going to need hard data to prove your point. Just as I can't totally prove my point other than with asking others about their usage. One thing is certain though, to say that everyone who upgrades speed is going to use more data as a result is a false statement. Just as I cannot say the opposite.

Having higher tiers is a great way to keep the power users. Lets face facts here, the power users are all about more bandwidth. To give them more bandwidth is a huge benefit to go along with the higher speeds. For most regular users, they are just using the performance tier anyway.
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Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06

"Power users" are surely more interested in actual data transfer, not playing with speedtest.net like an infant giggling over a Fisher Price play station.



espaeth
Digital Plumber
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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reply to IPPlanMan
They're giving you a larger cap if you give them more money.

This really isn't that complicated to figure out.



Nightfall
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reply to Wilsdom

said by Wilsdom:

"Power users" are surely more interested in actual data transfer, not playing with speedtest.net like an infant giggling over a Fisher Price play station.

Yup, I meant to say that. Speeds are just a bonus.
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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to IPPlanMan

said by IPPlanMan:

If this is indeed true, then I've been right about what I've said for years: Faster speeds results in higher levels of usage.

Sorry but Netflix HD streams stream at 5 Mbps whether you on a 15 Mbps connection to 300 Mbps conenction.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

reply to Wilsdom
So true. I couldn't care less about the typical higher speed tiers a provider has with the typical caps they have. Even if there are caps the caps at the highest tier is what should be on the lowest tier. I'd much rather have a 20Mbps unlimited connection over a 100Mbps connection with 250Gb cap.



Streetlight

join:2005-11-07
Colorado Springs, CO

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by IPPlanMan:

If this is indeed true, then I've been right about what I've said for years: Faster speeds results in higher levels of usage.

Sorry but Netflix HD streams stream at 5 Mbps whether you on a 15 Mbps connection to 300 Mbps conenction.

You're right that for some situations like a single Netflix stream of an HD video at 5 Mb/s regardless of a speed tier fast enough to support it. The problem for many is that a single stream is not always the case. For many, mom and dad may be looking at a Netflix HD streaming video, one of the teenage children may be listening to Rdio at 250 Kb/s while doing homework using a computer, another teen watching another HD movie stream while surfing the net on an iPad, all the while the computers in the house backing up their hard drives to Dropbox. Additional users in the household use even more Mb/s. If this kind of activity goes on every day, the household's data use can easily saturate a 15 Mb/s pipe and fill a 300 GB bucket in a lot fewer than 30 days.

Internet for Comcast is a cash cow. It's been reported that the cost of bits is pennies per giga byte. It's not clear to me what the cost per subscriber is for infrastructure, but I doubt it's more than $10 per month. The price we pay for bits is awfully high.

On the other hand, for cable TV it seems the cost of programming is controlled by the content producers. Ala carte TV might be nice. For example since a small minority of folks would choose the Disney/ESPN/ABC giant, the subscription cost of it might become unsustainable considering those who now subsidize it would be gone. Disney would have to change their business model and professional athletes and their masters might have to take a major income drop. The same with all those niche channels no one watches. They'd have to go away. Subscription fees could drop precipitously and maybe sanity would come to the cost of cable entertainment.
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